12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

[Cheib]

Wilmslowboy said:

Cheib said:

This one sold in the last week http://www.top555.co.uk/stock/details/Porsche-Caym...

I can't remember the price but I think it was circa £105k, sold the same day it went on the website.

You can do worse that follow dealers Twitter feeds as a way of keeping an eye on the market.

thanks

below delivery miles (48)...so collector grade ??

Maybe. Buyer seemingly already owned/had bought a GT4.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TOP555Cars/status/72570...

[ClioTrophy55]

ClioTrophy55 said:

Cheib said:

Wilmslowboy said:

Has anyone actually sold one recently (or specifically know of one sold), and if so do you mind sharing the price

advertised prices seem to be all over the place.....

This one sold in the last week http://www.top555.co.uk/stock/details/Porsche-Caym...

I can't remember the price but I think it was circa £105k, sold the same day it went on the website.

You can do worse that follow dealers Twitter feeds as a way of keeping an eye on the market.

IMHO, and of course it's only an opinion, the Top555 car looked considerably underpriced at £105K - Clubsport, PCCB, coherent internal and external appearance (Black/Yellow stealth look), delivery miles - I'm not surprised it went within the day.

Advert (sold) has since appeared on PH -

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

It looks as if the price was £110K rather than £105K which is more in line with what'd I'd have expected for this specification.

[DuncGTS]

It was £110 K and the guy also got the yellow from them a few months before but that one was a lower spec inside to this one

[systemsinclair]

I'm sure I've see GT4 insurance talked about but i can't find it so who's everyone going with?
I don't want to install a tracker.

[av185]

Try Admiral but make sure you email them your purchase invoice specifying all costed options and you may also want to request they confirm OPC vehicle/ glass repairs/replacement at no penalty.

[Fl0pp3r]

I could be wrong but i doubt Admiral will be offering your choice of OPC repair/glass etc...

Try Manning (Porsche policy underwritten by Amlin) which gives you the above, plus unlimited uk trackday cover and agreed value if you want that. The rates are competitive.

[av185]

Fl0pp3r said:

I could be wrong but i doubt Admiral will be offering your choice of OPC repair/glass etc...

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They do and will confirm it.

[ferrisbueller]

av185 said:

Fl0pp3r said:

I could be wrong but i doubt Admiral will be offering your choice of OPC repair/glass etc...

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They do and will confirm it.

How about agreed value?

[p5hrr]

mdianuk said:

Back by popular demand (!!!!), latest 'for sale' update.

Cars available across Pistonheads and Autotrader platform, 29 (excludes duplicates)

New entries from (Private), Nick Whale, John Holland, Romans, Imperial, Royles Jaguar, OPC Brooklands and Clinkard.

Reductions from Top555 (White) £99,995 to £97,995, William Loughran (Blue) £104,990 to £99,950 and Aston Martin (Dark Blue) £111,950 to £108,950

Interestingly a couple of increases from Redline (Agate Grey) £103,990 to £104,990 and Motorhouse of Shipley (Agate Grey) £99,995 to £104,995

We have only 3 no longer showing from my last update a couple of weeks ago, including the Private seller in Falkirk (White) £93,995, OPC Aberdeen (Agate Grey) £99,000 and Centurion Cars (White) £109,995. Two of these have basic Sports Seats, one had everything! *no confirmation if these sold, were just removed from PH/AT, or have been returned to their owners - if you bought one, let me know.

We have a slight drop in the average to £101,421 but a small increase in the number of cars now trading in the £90k range; the £114,995 car from 911sport is holding the average up and has been advertised since mid-March!

Only 4 with clubsport.

Colours are Agate Grey (4), Black (4), Dark Blue (1), Red (4), Sapphire Blue (4), Viper Green (1), White (9), Yellow (2) *no indication of what colour sells the best, but we know some colours are faster than others.

Private seller in Falkirk (White) £93,995, this car is sold, I know the ownwer.

[Porsche911R]

av185 said:

They do and will confirm it.

they sort of do if you want oem glass, but only on cars less than 3 years old.

not sure about fitters I had a fight with them and they changed their wording in the contract now to be more tough after a claim I made.

[Fokker]

systemsinclair said:

I'm sure I've see GT4 insurance talked about but i can't find it so who's everyone going with?
I don't want to install a tracker.

Honestly don't go with Admiral for a GT4. I spoke to the claims dept manager and she told me that they've only paid out over list price for car about 3 times since she's been working there in many years.
She actually advised me not to go with them and I did my research.

Lots of companies will accept a cat 6 which is about 250 quid fitted for a Cabratrak.

Aviva distinct accept a cat 6 on an agreed value basis.

Thats my advise.

[Porsche911R]

I have asked 3 or 4 times and they pay out market value ! and as you have asked they have paid out market value for cars.

[mdianuk]

I'll probably just go with whomever I can insure the car up to around £90k with, without the need for a tracker. Beyond that, if they stipulate market value (which lets face it, they all do, because most cars depreciate) then they'd have to fight me in court. The other option is to take out 'replacement car' GAP insurance to cover the difference, but that would hike the cost of your initial insurers by around £300-400.

[mdianuk]

Spoke to Admiral just now on web chat, actually very helpful; part of the conversation was me asking if I should insure my car for a hypothetical £75k (list price, invoice), or current market value of around £95k. They suggested just the price I pay because market value will determine the pay-out and would not be capped at £75k:

::: When considering the market value for this quote, I would recommend putting in the price you've paid for the car (£75k).

::: If you were to have an accident the market value of the car will be assessed at that time.

::: We do not cap it at £75000 because that is what was entered on the quote. The actual market value would be determined at the time of the incident.

I also asked about the tracker requirement at this value and they confirmed no requirement:

::: No, we do not require a tracker to be fitted.

I will still be shopping around (track insurance not a factor for me), but it is a good fall back and the main thing is I'm insured to drive it and my family are safely covered.

[Shiverman]

I know we all like to have good value and I too shop around but I'm not sure I would go with Admiral for insurance on a Porsche car. After all you are spending the thick end of £70-90k and worrying over maybe a max. £200 extra on cover of your P&J. Just my opinion.
My son used Admiral for a year (cheap car) and their service wasn't great. Compared to Aviva felt very 'cheap' to deal with and that was without having to make a claim and the no doubt associated hassles to endure.

All IMO - please don't shoot me!

[mdianuk]

Very true, but I reckon they are all much of a muchness at the end of it all. Fair enough a bit more hassle with customer service, but £200 is still £200 of fuel regardless of how much a car costs.

[bigmowley]

mdianuk said:

, but £200 is still £200 of fuel regardless of how much a car costs.

Which will get you to the end of the road and back in a GT4 .....................





.................. If your careful

[ferrisbueller]

mdianuk said:

Very true, but I reckon they are all much of a muchness at the end of it all. Fair enough a bit more hassle with customer service, but £200 is still £200 of fuel regardless of how much a car costs.

With respect, I don't believe this is true (the sentiment, not the value of £200 ).

I used to insure a car of a certain value with Admiral and switched provided following a discussion with one of Admiral's own advisors with respect to "market value".

Following that conversation, I pay 50% more to insure said vehicle. However, it was then insured for an agreed value, which can be amended to reflect changes in the market FOC, with no arguments if the worst case scenario comes to pass.

In the GT4's case, you are talking about an asset of around £100k. This notion of taking an insurance company to court for their different judgement of what market value may be is all very nice but do you really want to do that? The extra money you might spend on a premium will be dwarfed by the expense and stress of a legal claim.

Re. trackers. If you don't want to fit one, then find out the value which triggers the requirement and insure the car beneath that threshold. However, your payout in the worst case is then capped. Again, the £695 [£195 (tracker installed) + £500 (3 years subscription)] expense incurred, seems minimal relative to a potential five figure delta in a payout if that worst case becomes reality.

Insurance only demonstrates its relative value when it needs to be called upon, which one would hope never happens. However, it is not all the same and there are reasons as to why there are differences in prices.

There's a saying about cutting off noses, which I think seems fitting here.

[Sam All]

Kind of penny wise, £ foolish.

[ferrisbueller]

Sam All said:

Kind of penny wise, £ foolish.

That too, IMO, obviously.