Cayman GTS

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Zyp

14,725 posts

191 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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Never mind being a gnats knacker faster round a track - would it look aesthetically better outside MacDonalds?

JmS37

570 posts

142 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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Guys, does the lower ride height on ss make "speed ramps/cushions" a problem?
My 987 boxster with pasm was a bit harsh in sport, i'd read the newer models were better in this respect??

mrdemon

21,146 posts

267 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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Zyp said:
Never mind being a gnats knacker faster round a track - would it look aesthetically better outside MacDonalds?
Yes looks cool init dropped to the max man ! Look like 4x4 other wise :-)

Zyp

14,725 posts

191 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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JmS37 said:
Guys, does the lower ride height on ss make "speed ramps/cushions" a problem?
My 987 boxster with pasm was a bit harsh in sport, i'd read the newer models were better in this respect??
The only thing I've ever scraped once or twice on my Spyder is, I think, the brake duct underneath.
Probably wasn't going slow enough, but no damage or issue.

Trev450

6,339 posts

174 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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Zyp said:
JmS37 said:
Guys, does the lower ride height on ss make "speed ramps/cushions" a problem?
My 987 boxster with pasm was a bit harsh in sport, i'd read the newer models were better in this respect??
The only thing I've ever scraped once or twice on my Spyder is, I think, the brake duct underneath.
Probably wasn't going slow enough, but no damage or issue.
It should be fine so long as you're careful.

My 987 CS has PASM and GT3 brake ducts fitted so less ground clearance than most, and apart from the brake ducts touching on sleeping policeman now and then, I don't have any problems.

Goofnik

216 posts

142 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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NicD said:
Sounds like you have made a decent comparison of PASM and SS. What convinced you to go SS?
SS is a bit more immediate. SS has only the slightest hint on understeer on corner entry. SS also has cheaper long-term maintenance costs, and less "to go wrong". I also don't have to press a button to make it do its thing. It's also still much more comfortable than any car I've ever owned, by a country mile. It's a classic case of "less is more". I would strongly advise most to tick the box over PASM. Getting an S? Get the SS -- it's cheaper than PASM.

The only place where I strayed on this was PDK over a manual. I took 4 test drives for me to choose PDK. The only thing I'd choose over PDK would be a a sequential manual six-speed dog-type G97/63 gearbox from a GT3 Cup. Because race car.

Edited by Goofnik on Sunday 25th May 20:31

m5touringv10

72 posts

121 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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Goofnik said:
m5touringv10 said:
My brother is thinking of ordering a GTS.
He's unsure about the sports suspension, as though autocar and evo claim it improves handling and steering feel, he's worried it
might make it too firm a ride.
Any ideas on this?
PASM in Sport Plus is considerably worse in terms of comfort than the Sport Suspension. PASM in Sport is sliiiighly less comfortable than the Sport Suspension. The SS is firmer than PASM in the normal/comfort setting, but that's it. Can you deal with a 3/4 series with the M Sport Suspension? If so, you can deal with the Porsche SS.

Here's something for you: My GTS with Sport Suspension will be hands down the most comfortable car I've ever owned, without question. Granted, that's coming from an MX-5, Lancer Evolution VIII MR, Mitsubishi Eclipse and Ford-F150, but the point remains.
Thanks for your informative reply.
Did you notice a change in steering feel (with SS) as the reviews suggest?

Goofnik

216 posts

142 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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m5touringv10 said:
Thanks for your informative reply.
Did you notice a change in steering feel (with SS) as the reviews suggest?
A bit more immediate, only a hint of understeer on corner entry. There is more going on with SS, but it makes sense. PASM is using magneto-rheological fluid to try to filter out noise for the sake of comfort. SS can't, and has to rely on tuning alone. It can get a bit jiggly on really bad roads (and I did take a car down such a bad road), but it still was more comfortable than anything I've driven since it tends to absorb everything in a single damping stroke. Granted, they were beat up, post-winter New England roads in a sports car.

NicD

3,281 posts

259 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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Rob,
I have just checked your Code. My fantasy (so far) build also included platinum S wheels and plain white paint but when I studied the options more, I could see the SportTechno wheels and Carrara metallic white were only a little more and for me, more attractive. The wheels are 0.5 inch wider though tyres are the same profile. You are spending the extra on the wheel rather than the platinum finish.

Just a thought, though may take it over your max dollar figure.
Nic

RBT0

1,476 posts

121 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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Hi All,
I'm Ross, I live in UK and I'm seriously interested in the new Cayman GTS.
Basically I'm looking for a sports car, and the Cayman GTS could be the right one (I'm quite sure now, after months spent in choosing between Exige V6 S, 11/12MY GT-R or Cayman S).

Here the code of my configured GTS: PFB2IMV9

Few comments:
I've chosen the sound plus pack just because the configurator requires it to have the sat nav (at least, as cheapest add on required).
Still not sure about SS, but Steve Sutcliffe's comments on SS have convinced me.

One of your configured GTS includes the light design pack, what are its features?

mrdemon

21,146 posts

267 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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RBT0 said:
Hi All,
Basically I'm looking for a sports car, and the Cayman GTS could be the right one (I'm quite sure now, after months spent in choosing between Exige V6 S, 11/12MY GT-R or Cayman S).

Cayman R is the best drivers car in years, try one of those, it will also save you 20k.


RBT0

1,476 posts

121 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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I don't like exteriors and interiors of previous Cayman, really a different car if compared with 981.
Additionally, the Cayman R design seems to me even worse than the old standard Cayman.

m5touringv10

72 posts

121 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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Goofnik said:
A bit more immediate, only a hint of understeer on corner entry. There is more going on with SS, but it makes sense. PASM is using magneto-rheological fluid to try to filter out noise for the sake of comfort. SS can't, and has to rely on tuning alone. It can get a bit jiggly on really bad roads (and I did take a car down such a bad road), but it still was more comfortable than anything I've driven since it tends to absorb everything in a single damping stroke. Granted, they were beat up, post-winter New England roads in a sports car.
Thanks again, will pass the info on to my brother and let him decide.


Tooslow34

4 posts

121 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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I'm looking at the Cayman GTS - had a go in a Cayman S recently and loved it! Is anyone actually getting a discount on the Cayman GTS?

mrdemon

21,146 posts

267 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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RBT0 said:
I don't like exteriors and interiors of previous Cayman, really a different car if compared with 981.
Additionally, the Cayman R design seems to me even worse than the old standard Cayman.
But you do like interiors of the Exige or the GTR, mmmmmm. Strange coment.

psc12c

17 posts

122 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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mrdemon said:
Cayman R is the best drivers car in years, try one of those, it will also save you 20k.
If money isn't tight, the GTS will see it off it specd with X73, PCCB and buckets. The stiffer chassis alone will easily do the job. And the extra HP is a bonus. And the R looks badly dated, inside and out. Almost at 996 levels.

Edited by psc12c on Monday 26th May 22:57

rob.kellock

2,214 posts

194 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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It is a blunt instrument to the R's scalpel though?

I love my S but MrD has a point. Depends what you want to use the car for. As an every day proposition I would go 981 S or GTS but for out and out thrills and tactile feedback I would have thought the R walks it?

psc12c

17 posts

122 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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rob.kellock said:
It is a blunt instrument to the R's scalpel though?

I love my S but MrD has a point. Depends what you want to use the car for. As an every day proposition I would go 981 S or GTS but for out and out thrills and tactile feedback I would have thought the R walks it?
No chance. You're confusing a car without X73 with an R. An X73 981 spanks an R. Only the steering might be a bit less but its easily washed away by the rest of it.

P.S. I have tried them all and am happy with my 991 GT3 complete with new engine.

rob.kellock

2,214 posts

194 months

Monday 26th May 2014
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Steering is almost everything though - that was my point. Tactility.

Have just done 22000 miles in a Spyder so I do get the differences.


mrdemon

21,146 posts

267 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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psc12c said:
No chance. You're confusing a car without X73 with an R. An X73 981 spanks an R. Only the steering might be a bit less but its easily washed away by the rest of it.

P.S. I have tried them all and am happy with my 991 GT3 complete with new engine.
I doubt it spanks it, the chassie is so good in a 987.2 it out shines every driver already then the power to weight is better in the R and so is the steering. they would be equal at best. I would swap today if I thought the 981 was better for fun, but it isn't. it does not even have a place to put your shades :-p A PDK car would really show a big change in the 2 cars , but then who wants PDK bar 991 GT3 owners who are forced to have it !!!

AT the end of the day as Rob says the steering makes the Spyder and R.

As for dated well that's all personal a 964 is dated but people are still buying them.

If you want a PDK car then yes go for the 981 it's far smoother, if you want old style feel the R as you put it spanks it .