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J-P

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Tuesday 13th June 2017
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nw942 said:
I have a quick question about track days...

I bought it with the intention of doing 3 or 4 a year, but it's probably going to end up being nearer a dozen (minimum) smile

As a novice, it is still on the standard pads/fluid, which seem good enough for the 3-4 lap runs I do at a time. Front PS2s are lasting me 4 track days (max -ve camber). Brake pad wear seems very good ATM.

I have a few questions:

1. As I progess and get a bit quicker, then I am assuming that better pads and uprated fluid will be required?

2. How often do you change the oil and brake fluid?

3. What hot tyre pressures do you normally run and what handling balance do you go for?

4. I am assuming that the car can quite easily and reliably put up with a dozen tracks days a year?


I bought the CR as I wanted a mid-engined, RWD car to start doing some track days. Obviously the limits are much lower than something like a GT4 so it seemed like the better option to begin with. But would something like an Exige actually be a 'better' car to be learning with?

Thanks
1. I have upgraded pads, braided hose, Castrol SRF, GT3 brake ducts, titanium heat shields and GT3MC (all of which have improved braking performance both in terms of outright stopping power and feel).

2. Oil change every year (around 3 track days per year) - brake fluid also every year (has to be done for Castrol SRF)

3. Never bother with hot temps for the tyres - just keep an eye on them throughout the day and get the tyres filled with nitrogen at Costco

4. Car should easily manage dozen track days a year - just need to keep an eye on consumables (tyres, pads etc)

Would Exige be a "better car"? Hmmm... in some ways - yes it's faster, lighter and more transparent in terms of feedback. But it doesn't have as good an engine as the Cayman - the flat 6 in the R is a much nicer bit of kit. Also, although I would probably have a Sport 380 ahead of an R, I wouldn't have a Sport 350 over the R and the Sport 380 may have more problems getting onto tracks because of noise whereas I've never had an issue in the R. Try one and see what you think?

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Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Thought I'd post quickly on here to say I've just sold my CR to Ashgood. It was a very sad day as I loved that car but I do have to say that Ashgood were awesome to deal with... friendly and very professional. Highly recommended!

Now I just have to save up for the next fresh bit of pork, in the meantime will have to get the S1 upgraded.

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Wednesday 17th January 2018
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left4dead said:
Pretty sure that’s my old car - maybe I should buy it back? I miss it. Love that thing!

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Friday 19th January 2018
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Jim1556 said:
J-P said:
Pretty sure that’s my old car - maybe I should buy it back? I miss it. Love that thing!
Is that why it's got Cup 2s? wink

It's been for sale there since September I think...

ETA, it's now reserved...

Porsche911R said:
Shocked the 911V car has not sold yet, not many nice manuals about with Buckets, Spdyers sub 30k miles. like 2 !
Deposit taken...


Edited by Jim1556 on Wednesday 17th January 20:45
Yep it’s the cup 2’s that convinced me that it’s my old car. Awesome thing!

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Saturday 20th January 2018
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Jim1556 said:
J-P said:
Yep it’s the cup 2’s that convinced me that it’s my old car. Awesome thing!
If it'd had leather or not been black, I was close to pulling the trigger...
Really? I didn’t have a choice on the colour. I wanted an R and Reading had the only new car with the right spec in stock at the time. I would have preferred a different colour too but I wanted the car more than the colour and spec was more important to me. That car is a great buy for somebody. Low mileage, well cared for and utterly awesome to drive on those cup 2s.

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Friday 3rd August 2018
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chrisABP said:
jbaddeley said:
RS Grant said:
Out of interest, has anyone gone from an E92 M3 to a Cayman R? If so, then how did you find the switch? Has there been any regrets?

Reason being that I love my E92 and it took me AGES to find one which I was happy with in the correct specification... but I've always had a nagging interest in the Cayman R.

I live in NE Scotland (between Dundee and Aberdeen) and have a fairly busy life, so it's not the easiest to pop along and try out a car for size. The Peridot car for sale in Aberdeen looks like an ideal spec for me, but I'm not going to view the car because even with the most skillful display of parking tetris, I think that I would have to move the M3 on before pulling the trigger on a CR... but that's not something which I'd be doing if I thought that I'd regret the decision down the line.
Chris ABP has both Grant so he'll be able to advise.
Indeed I do!

Replaced my Cayman GT4 with an M3 and a Cayman R. Needed a family practical 4-seater - 2012 M3 E92 Coupe Competition pack! Well, it has 4 seats! The M3 is a lovely car to drive with a masterpiece of an engine, its split personality between lazy V8 in full auto mode and crazy engine singing at 8k once all the M settings have been set-up properly was a big attraction and I do use it for both commuting / pottering and the occasional quicker cross country blast. BUT.... anyone with an M3 will agree its a heavy car and when being used properly it quickly runs out of brakes! If it were my only car it would need £5k+ spending on it on some decent suspension, roll bars and brakes to make it a far better fast road car.
The Cayman R in comparison is sublime, its a completely different entity, lighter, more focused, better chassis, better brakes, better steering, better ride quality, better almost everything than the M3! I've said it before but its the best ever example of a car offering so much more from so much less! In my opinion a far better fast road car than the GT4.
Ultimately if I'm heading out for a fun drive with no destination its only ever going to be the R that I take (unless I need 4 seats and then the M3 isn't a bad substitute!)
I had an E92 M3 and later bought a Caymn R. They are very different to drive. The M3 is all about the engine, I remember driving it shortly after I first got it, thinking, "it's a nice car but not amazing". Then I realsied that I was short-shifting at 6,500RPM but that engine needs to be wrung out to really enjoy it and then it's unbelievably awesome! However, the brakes are terrible and the suspension is a bit "meh". Still a lovely thing to own though and I adored mine when I had it.

The CR though is a complete package - the engine, steeering and chassis balance are all superb! The brakes are also OK but can do with upgrading to get the most from them (unless it already has PCCB, which are fantastic!). There's no way you'd regret having a CR over an M3 but the other way round you defintely would regret it - I say go for it!


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Saturday 8th September 2018
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Gurjit-m4c58 said:
boxsey said:
Good to see that you are moving on and I don't think Ashgood has suffered from this. From what I can tell they sell some good cars at the right price and have plenty of happy customers.
Totally agree with this. They have a great setup, knowledgeable staff, cars are priced to sell and found their customer service excellent.

Hurts to lose on a car but OPC cars usually take that big longer to sell, so more time to negotiate, because they have their uplift in costs because of their higher overheads.

When buying 2nd hand performance cars, I’ve found in more cases than not that the service (during and after the sale) of specialists beats the brands.

All IMHO, of course!
+1 - Think as a dealer you can't win with this type of thing. Most people would think that saying there was strong interest in the car was sharp practice to put the buyer under pressure - to me, that's not a courtesy at all. If I wanted to buy, I would ask the seller if there was any serious interest, not whinge about losing out to somebody else on a public forum.

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Sunday 9th September 2018
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ajondyh said:
J-P said:
+1 - Think as a dealer you can't win with this type of thing. Most people would think that saying there was strong interest in the car was sharp practice to put the buyer under pressure - to me, that's not a courtesy at all. If I wanted to buy, I would ask the seller if there was any serious interest, not whinge about losing out to somebody else on a public forum.
Any dealer will sell to the 1st person who gives a deposit. There are so many tyre kickers/Lookers about it has to be that way frown
Totally agree.

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Sunday 30th September 2018
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ajondyh said:
Looks like my old car! but yes that's a good price!

J-P

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Sunday 30th September 2018
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Jim1556 said:
J-P said:
Looks like my old car! but yes that's a good price!
Probably not, yours had <17k miles and Cup 2s when it was up at Harbour Cars in January, unless they've had 9 months of driving it everywhere...
It's not my old one, mine was a 2012 - it just looks like it.

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Sunday 30th September 2018
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Jim1556 said:
And this lovely thing has just appeared...

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Looks almost perfect, if a little strong compared to the market...
Way too strong for a private sale. It's a nice car but the grey one at Autologix has similar mileage and is around £1k cheaper. And I think even that is strong money. Still hopefully, the buyer is lucky and finds somebody willing to pay top money for it.

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Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Porsche911R said:
Are these fake adverts ?

what's wrong with people are they all now copying every one else bull st !
it's word for word copy and paste advert !


Pure Lightweight Specification,!!! with the PCM.

Like the legendary 1967 911 R

This car will prove to be a fantastic investment for the next owner.

wtf !



Edited by Porsche911R on Monday 1st October 08:42
I noticed that too! Bit naff if you ask me but hey ho!

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Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Thinking about getting rid of my number plate. C4YMR. What do you think I should ask for it? Don’t really need to sell it and obviously it would be good to have if I buy another R (which I might) thoughts?

J-P

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Thursday 25th October 2018
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Lungauer said:
Quick question to the cognoscenti; can the sport shifter be retro fitted?
Yes definitely can be done - I'd consider cup cables as well. Tried a car with this mod and it made a massive difference.

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Friday 26th October 2018
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PaulD86 said:
J-P said:
Yes definitely can be done - I'd consider cup cables as well. Tried a car with this mod and it made a massive difference.
Excuse my ignorance here, but what is the difference with the cables and how did it effect the character of the shift? I have to say that, from a driving point of view, the shift on my car is I feel one of its weaker points.
Paul - please look at Slippy's explanation. It's the main reason why the cup cables feel so much more engaging. Please ignore David's comment, I'd wager that he's never tried a Cayman with cup cables. I have, and I'm speaking from actual experience. The cup cable makes for a very positive shift, it feels like you'd imagine an open gate shift would be - extremely precise and satisfying. It's one of the actual mods I regret not doing on my Cayman R, I think it would have been more worthwhile than getting it chipped.

The car I tried was a heavily modded Cayman in the midlands a few years back and my favourite aspect of that car was the gearshift!

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Sunday 4th November 2018
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PaulD86 said:
J-P said:
Paul - please look at Slippy's explanation. It's the main reason why the cup cables feel so much more engaging. Please ignore David's comment, I'd wager that he's never tried a Cayman with cup cables. I have, and I'm speaking from actual experience. The cup cable makes for a very positive shift, it feels like you'd imagine an open gate shift would be - extremely precise and satisfying. It's one of the actual mods I regret not doing on my Cayman R, I think it would have been more worthwhile than getting it chipped.

The car I tried was a heavily modded Cayman in the midlands a few years back and my favourite aspect of that car was the gearshift!
You've got me interested! Sounds like what I'd like. How much work is involved in fitting these? DIY option? And what sort of cost? This may go on my to do list.
Sorry for the delayed reply, haven't been paying attention.

Parr quoted me £600 a few years back, fitted. I dealt with Lawrence Stockwell - nice guy!

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Sunday 4th November 2018
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Porsche911R said:
But what do I know I only mod my cars not talk about modding them lol
If you're implying that Slippy and I don't mod our cars, then you're sorely mistaken. You do know some stuff but also spout a lot of self-absorbed nonsense.

Like your ridiculous hatred of the GT3MC mod to a Cayman R - it makes a massive difference to pedal feel, which is what people want. Who cares if it's "masking a problem", if it gives the result that people want?

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Sunday 11th November 2018
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K400RDY said:
Hi All, new here. Has anyone seen this car please? Thoughts? Seems a good spec etc just missing the PSE. https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Edited by K400RDY on Sunday 11th November 13:22
Haven't see it in the flesh but looks like a great car at a great price!

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Sunday 11th November 2018
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K400RDY said:
J-P said:
Haven't see it in the flesh but looks like a great car at a great price!
Are you on commission laugh
I wish! I was looking at it a couple of months ago. Thought about getting it for myself.

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Monday 12th November 2018
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K400RDY said:
J-P said:
I wish! I was looking at it a couple of months ago. Thought about getting it for myself.
Change of plan? Thought you already had a R ?
Sold it last year frown