2024 Cayenne

[GTS440]

rkwm1 said:

Anybody had allocation for S Hybrid coupe? Have been told they arent available yet.

I have been told April/May 2024.

According to my OPC all Cayenne E Hybrid variants seem to be in strong demand.

[rkwm1]

GTS440 said:

I have been told April/May 2024.

According to my OPC all Cayenne E Hybrid variants seem to be in strong demand.

Thanks.

[J210]

RichDS said:

Has anyone had a discount on a new Cayenne?

I have booked to see my opc sales person on Saturday and plan to deposit on an S E hybrid.

Can’t particularly be bothered to ring round looking for deals if none to be had..

On the cars in stock on finder. a few have around 3k off.

[AJAYE2015]

GTS440 said:

I have been told April/May 2024.

According to my OPC all Cayenne E Hybrid variants seem to be in strong demand.

Why so many available online?

[J210]

AJAYE2015 said:

Why so many available online?

On the coupes, I was told most of the car with sports design pack or light weight sports package are what the dealers got told to order as showroom cars. So they can be sold but cant be collected until replaced by the dealership. Not sure if thats 100% true. but two dealers said the same.

But I doubt many will be selling with he stop sale on them. But was also quoted March/April for a factory order

[Cheib]

AJAYE2015 said:

GTS440 said:

I have been told April/May 2024.

According to my OPC all Cayenne E Hybrid variants seem to be in strong demand.

Why so many available online?

When your livelihood is selling cars been the most forthright individual is going to shade the story a bit.

It’s a brand new model that hasn’t been out for six months….34 is not many cars in terms of the amount of cars they sell but it won’t be the real number. Probably in reality three figures. Some OPC’s eg Hatfield have 4.

Nothing is in strong demand right now. The only car an OPC can sell easily right now are cancelled GT orders…everything else is a struggle.

[maxh]

jackwood said:

Yes, bit strange. I’ll drop them a line tomorrow to see where they are up to.

Out of interest what do people use for charging at home (if they bother)? Will the new car charge up over night on the standard cable with a 13amp plug? Or do we really need a 7Kwh charger? It’s our first plug-in.

I think you'll be limited to 3.2kw/h on a 13amp socket. That would take around 8+ hours to charge. We use the Ohme Home Pro charger at 7.2kw/h and that has been great. Ours was installed by Octopus energy for £999 so that we could take advantage of their Go tariff but you could do it independently if you wished.

[rkwm1]

RichDS said:

I am weighing up between the hybrid S and the v8 S.

Could anyone give an indication of mpg and range of the v8? Overall / motorway cruise etc.

Had plenty of v8v and thirsty motors before but nothing this big and heavy so trying to understand if the rumble is still worth it.

Really enjoyed our extended test drive in the hybrid non S which was frankly more than quick enough, but with the extra kit and cheaper options can’t help feel the S hybrid has rendered the non S a bit redundant.

Have done over 4.5k miles now and economy isn't great. Around town 14-18mpg. Longer runs 25-27mpg cruising around 70mph. Have had it hit 29 over 200 miles, but alot of 50-60mph.

Today was a long drive and got close to 27mpg for most of it, but then the right foot got the better of me and let the V8 do its thing



yes, the sound it makes is....for me at least!

[GTS440]

I really wanted the V8 S when it was announced but the E-Hybrid made much more financial sense for me with the 8% BIK so I reluctantly went for it.

Now I’ve had it for 2 weeks and 411 miles I’ve got no regrets. 241 miles of my driving has been Electric only and I’ve averaged 44.1 mpg ICE which includes a mix of town, motorway at 70+ and B roads. I still have 181 miles ICE range from the original supplied full tank (400miles when it was delivered) of fuel so not even been near a petrol station yet.

At my home charging cost of 27.9p per kW I’ve so far spent £40.57 charging it but that includes preheating it for up to half an hour each morning and again some afternoons/evenings so it’s a lovely and toasty 21.5 degrees inside with heated seats, steering wheel and all screens/mirrors demisted. It is now fully charged (takes 3.5 hours from 0%) and 44 Electric miles ready for tomorrow morning.

I’m a petrolhead who loves engines but this car really in quite impressive, the instant torque from standstill and the seamless introduction of the ICE are quite amazing, it intelligently coasts downhill with regen and only reintroduces ice at motorway speeds if on a reasonable incline.

I was worried about brake pedal feel as I’d read some reviews saying the pedal travel can vary due to regen etc and feel strange but in my car it is mostly very similar to an ICE only car.

Of course it would be nice to have that V8 rumble but in reality the power level is similar but actually more flexible in the Hybrid. I can’t actually believe I’m saying it but I think I made the better choice….

Edited by GTS440 on Thursday 16th November 21:33

Edited by GTS440 on Thursday 16th November 21:36

[Cheib]

I’d be interested to know if your electric range has changed much with the drop in temperatures ? Although sounds like you’ve only just got the car

[GTS440]

Cheib said:

I’d be interested to know if your electric range has changed much with the drop in temperatures ? Although sounds like you’ve only just got the car

When I posted last night the electric range was 44 miles, this morning at 4 degrees C the app says 42 miles, I expect due to the temperature drop. Conversely I’ve seen it at 38 miles and then when started driving seen it go up to 42 miles.

I guess the car is also doing some kind of learning about my driving style but I can confidently say 40 miles electric is definitely achievable and you don’t have to be on light throttle to achieve it.

I had a Taycan 4S ST two cars ago and got fed up with the fact that you couldn’t use the performance if you wanted a sensible range so I sold it and then went for a base Cayenne V6 which felt like a revelation with 500+ miles range but lacked the low down instant torque of the electric motor.

This E-Hybrid gives the best of both worlds without range anxiety and whilst Zero % BIK Taycan was nice, the 8% E-Hybrid is still a no brainier for me personally.

[Cheib]

GTS440 said:

Cheib said:

I’d be interested to know if your electric range has changed much with the drop in temperatures ? Although sounds like you’ve only just got the car

When I posted last night the electric range was 44 miles, this morning at 4 degrees C the app says 42 miles, I expect due to the temperature drop. Conversely I’ve seen it at 38 miles and then when started driving seen it go up to 42 miles.

I guess the car is also doing some kind of learning about my driving style but I can confidently say 40 miles electric is definitely achievable and you don’t have to be on light throttle to achieve it.

I had a Taycan 4S ST two cars ago and got fed up with the fact that you couldn’t use the performance if you wanted a sensible range so I sold it and then went for a base Cayenne V6 which felt like a revelation with 500+ miles range but lacked the low down instant torque of the electric motor.

This E-Hybrid gives the best of both worlds without range anxiety and whilst Zero % BIK Taycan was nice, the 8% E-Hybrid is still a no brainier for me personally.

Thanks that is both interesting and helpful !

Have a 2017 S Diesel…do a lot of miles including a 50 mile drive most mornings. A hybrid that can do most of that on battery power starts to look interesting. The consumption quoted above for the V8 is eye watering for the mileage I do…would be hideously expensive to run.

[jackwood]

maxh said:

jackwood said:

Yes, bit strange. I’ll drop them a line tomorrow to see where they are up to.

Out of interest what do people use for charging at home (if they bother)? Will the new car charge up over night on the standard cable with a 13amp plug? Or do we really need a 7Kwh charger? It’s our first plug-in.

I think you'll be limited to 3.2kw/h on a 13amp socket. That would take around 8+ hours to charge. We use the Ohme Home Pro charger at 7.2kw/h and that has been great. Ours was installed by Octopus energy for £999 so that we could take advantage of their Go tariff but you could do it independently if you wished.

Thank you very much for that. Very useful. Will look at changing electricity supplier too to make use of lower overnight tariffs.

[GTS440]

Cheib said:

GTS440 said:

Cheib said:

I’d be interested to know if your electric range has changed much with the drop in temperatures ? Although sounds like you’ve only just got the car

When I posted last night the electric range was 44 miles, this morning at 4 degrees C the app says 42 miles, I expect due to the temperature drop. Conversely I’ve seen it at 38 miles and then when started driving seen it go up to 42 miles.

I guess the car is also doing some kind of learning about my driving style but I can confidently say 40 miles electric is definitely achievable and you don’t have to be on light throttle to achieve it.

I had a Taycan 4S ST two cars ago and got fed up with the fact that you couldn’t use the performance if you wanted a sensible range so I sold it and then went for a base Cayenne V6 which felt like a revelation with 500+ miles range but lacked the low down instant torque of the electric motor.

This E-Hybrid gives the best of both worlds without range anxiety and whilst Zero % BIK Taycan was nice, the 8% E-Hybrid is still a no brainier for me personally.

Thanks that is both interesting and helpful !

Have a 2017 S Diesel…do a lot of miles including a 50 mile drive most mornings. A hybrid that can do most of that on battery power starts to look interesting. The consumption quoted above for the V8 is eye watering for the mileage I do…would be hideously expensive to run.

We had a 2018 Cayenne Diesel Platinum too and a 2012 before that one. What a car! Our did tons of miles and we kept it nearly 5 years. 600 miles real world range too. A shame they didn't continue with the Diesel. If you can do your 50 mile morning drive and then charge afterwards i think the E-Hybrid will work for you. Its only when doing regular long journeys of say 200 miles and cant charge where i think the benefit will be lost as you're basicaly doing 160 miles ICE and lugging a couple of hundred Kilos of batteries which is like having a few invisible passengers! That said, the air suspension is excellent and apart from hard cornering (which i wouldnt do anyway in a Cayenne) the extra weight is very well disguised.

[Cheib]

GTS440 said:

Cheib said:

GTS440 said:

Cheib said:

I’d be interested to know if your electric range has changed much with the drop in temperatures ? Although sounds like you’ve only just got the car

When I posted last night the electric range was 44 miles, this morning at 4 degrees C the app says 42 miles, I expect due to the temperature drop. Conversely I’ve seen it at 38 miles and then when started driving seen it go up to 42 miles.

I guess the car is also doing some kind of learning about my driving style but I can confidently say 40 miles electric is definitely achievable and you don’t have to be on light throttle to achieve it.

I had a Taycan 4S ST two cars ago and got fed up with the fact that you couldn’t use the performance if you wanted a sensible range so I sold it and then went for a base Cayenne V6 which felt like a revelation with 500+ miles range but lacked the low down instant torque of the electric motor.

This E-Hybrid gives the best of both worlds without range anxiety and whilst Zero % BIK Taycan was nice, the 8% E-Hybrid is still a no brainier for me personally.

Thanks that is both interesting and helpful !

Have a 2017 S Diesel…do a lot of miles including a 50 mile drive most mornings. A hybrid that can do most of that on battery power starts to look interesting. The consumption quoted above for the V8 is eye watering for the mileage I do…would be hideously expensive to run.

We had a 2018 Cayenne Diesel Platinum too and a 2012 before that one. What a car! Our did tons of miles and we kept it nearly 5 years. 600 miles real world range too. A shame they didn't continue with the Diesel. If you can do your 50 mile morning drive and then charge afterwards i think the E-Hybrid will work for you. Its only when doing regular long journeys of say 200 miles and cant charge where i think the benefit will be lost as you're basicaly doing 160 miles ICE and lugging a couple of hundred Kilos of batteries which is like having a few invisible passengers! That said, the air suspension is excellent and apart from hard cornering (which i wouldnt do anyway in a Cayenne) the extra weight is very well disguised.

Yes I’ve had loan cars of the current Panamera and previous gen Cayenne….fuel consumption when there’s no battery charged up is pretty dreadful. My S Diesel is just coming up for 140k miles….superb engine.

[RichDS]

GTS440 said:

When I posted last night the electric range was 44 miles, this morning at 4 degrees C the app says 42 miles, I expect due to the temperature drop. Conversely I’ve seen it at 38 miles and then when started driving seen it go up to 42 miles.

I guess the car is also doing some kind of learning about my driving style but I can confidently say 40 miles electric is definitely achievable and you don’t have to be on light throttle to achieve it.

I had a Taycan 4S ST two cars ago and got fed up with the fact that you couldn’t use the performance if you wanted a sensible range so I sold it and then went for a base Cayenne V6 which felt like a revelation with 500+ miles range but lacked the low down instant torque of the electric motor.

This E-Hybrid gives the best of both worlds without range anxiety and whilst Zero % BIK Taycan was nice, the 8% E-Hybrid is still a no brainier for me personally.

Good post - so which Cayenne would you get if you were buying personally / forgetting the bik ?
We are going to go ahead with the hybrid anyway with deposit going down tomorrow - unless the turbo GT in the showroom gets the better of me..

[GTS440]

RichDS said:

GTS440 said:

When I posted last night the electric range was 44 miles, this morning at 4 degrees C the app says 42 miles, I expect due to the temperature drop. Conversely I’ve seen it at 38 miles and then when started driving seen it go up to 42 miles.

I guess the car is also doing some kind of learning about my driving style but I can confidently say 40 miles electric is definitely achievable and you don’t have to be on light throttle to achieve it.

I had a Taycan 4S ST two cars ago and got fed up with the fact that you couldn’t use the performance if you wanted a sensible range so I sold it and then went for a base Cayenne V6 which felt like a revelation with 500+ miles range but lacked the low down instant torque of the electric motor.

This E-Hybrid gives the best of both worlds without range anxiety and whilst Zero % BIK Taycan was nice, the 8% E-Hybrid is still a no brainier for me personally.

Good post - so which Cayenne would you get if you were buying personally / forgetting the bik ?
We are going to go ahead with the hybrid anyway with deposit going down tomorrow - unless the turbo GT in the showroom gets the better of me..

Good question! As a petrolhead and when in a life’s too short frame of mind, before I bought the E Hybrid I would have gone for the V8S which was what I put my deposit on at first. But I haven’t driven that car so can’t give a fair appraisal. The general consensus seems to be that it’s not as sonorous as I’d like (OPF etc like all new cars) and could have more low down grunt but I suspect that is in comparison to the hybrid. The sub 20 mpg would annoy me a bit too.

I think as a private buyer I’d drive the E-Hybrid, V8S and even the base V6 which has also had a power increase and is no slouch. A canny private buyer could get a nicely specced base V6 that will do late 20s mpg (I had the previous version) and save a fair chunk over the V8S and lower fuel costs. For similar money to the V8S you can get the E-Hybrid which IMO is a better day to day/town car.

Yesterday evening I did a 40mile 20+20 round trip in my E-Hybrid, all in E-Power mode until I was about 2 miles from home when the ICE kicked in but even then it used some E-Power at lower speeds on lighter throttle. I got home and charged last night. The car showed 99.9 MPG on the trip because it can’t display a higher number. Just checked and it cost me £6.70 at my 27.9p tariff which includes preheat for 30 minutes. £6.70 won’t quite buy you a gallon of petrol but if I assume it did you could say I’m getting the equivalent on 40 MPG on a cost basis and I’m not on any special energy tariff. In fact if I was on a cheap overnight tarrif and set a timer I could have charged for a third of that price. It’s hard to not see the attraction of the hybrid and let’s not forget it has 470 HP and is a very quick car when you want it to be.

Edited by GTS440 on Saturday 18th November 08:00

[jackwood]

GTS440 said:

Good question! As a petrolhead and when in a life’s too short frame of mind, before I bought the E Hybrid I would have gone for the V8S which was what I put my deposit on at first. But I haven’t driven that car so can’t give a fair appraisal. The general consensus seems to be that it’s not as sonorous as I’d like (OPF etc like all new cars) and could have more low down grunt but I suspect that is in comparison to the hybrid. The sub 20 mpg would annoy me a bit too.

I think as a private buyer I’d drive the E-Hybrid, V8S and even the base V6 which has also had a power increase and is no slouch. A canny private buyer could get a nicely specced base V6 that will do late 20s mpg (I had the previous version) and save a fair chunk over the V8S and lower fuel costs. For similar money to the V8S you can get the E-Hybrid which IMO is a better day to day/town car.

Yesterday evening I did a 40mile 20+20 round trip in my E-Hybrid, all in E-Power mode until I was about 2 miles from home when the ICE kicked in but even then it used some E-Power at lower speeds on lighter throttle. I got home and charged last night. The car showed 99.9 MPG on the trip because it can’t display a higher number. Just checked and it cost me £6.70 at my 27.9p tariff which includes preheat for 30 minutes. £6.70 won’t quite buy you a gallon of petrol but if I assume it did you could say I’m getting the equivalent on 40 MPG on a cost basis and I’m not on any special energy tariff. In fact if I was on a cheap overnight tarrif and set a timer I could have charged for a third of that price. It’s hard to not see the attraction of the hybrid and let’s not forget it has 470 HP and is a very quick car when you want it to be.

Edited by GTS440 on Saturday 18th November 08:00

Thanks for all your great posts on this subject. Certainly put our minds at rest that we made the right decision going for the eHybrid. Looks like it will fit our use case perfectly.

Mind if I ask why you haven’t moved to a different tariff? This is the next thing for us to look into.

And having spoken to our sales guy this week, the second stop sale issue should be rectified the first week of December. So hopefully be able to collect middle of the month.

[GTS440]

jackwood said:

GTS440 said:

Good question! As a petrolhead and when in a life’s too short frame of mind, before I bought the E Hybrid I would have gone for the V8S which was what I put my deposit on at first. But I haven’t driven that car so can’t give a fair appraisal. The general consensus seems to be that it’s not as sonorous as I’d like (OPF etc like all new cars) and could have more low down grunt but I suspect that is in comparison to the hybrid. The sub 20 mpg would annoy me a bit too.

I think as a private buyer I’d drive the E-Hybrid, V8S and even the base V6 which has also had a power increase and is no slouch. A canny private buyer could get a nicely specced base V6 that will do late 20s mpg (I had the previous version) and save a fair chunk over the V8S and lower fuel costs. For similar money to the V8S you can get the E-Hybrid which IMO is a better day to day/town car.

Yesterday evening I did a 40mile 20+20 round trip in my E-Hybrid, all in E-Power mode until I was about 2 miles from home when the ICE kicked in but even then it used some E-Power at lower speeds on lighter throttle. I got home and charged last night. The car showed 99.9 MPG on the trip because it can’t display a higher number. Just checked and it cost me £6.70 at my 27.9p tariff which includes preheat for 30 minutes. £6.70 won’t quite buy you a gallon of petrol but if I assume it did you could say I’m getting the equivalent on 40 MPG on a cost basis and I’m not on any special energy tariff. In fact if I was on a cheap overnight tarrif and set a timer I could have charged for a third of that price. It’s hard to not see the attraction of the hybrid and let’s not forget it has 470 HP and is a very quick car when you want it to be.

Edited by GTS440 on Saturday 18th November 08:00

Thanks for all your great posts on this subject. Certainly put our minds at rest that we made the right decision going for the eHybrid. Looks like it will fit our use case perfectly.

Mind if I ask why you haven’t moved to a different tariff? This is the next thing for us to look into.

And having spoken to our sales guy this week, the second stop sale issue should be rectified the first week of December. So hopefully be able to collect middle of the month.

I think you’re going to be really pleased with the E-Hybrid. I spoke to my OPC Sales exec a few days ago and he went on a Cayenne drive day and said that nearly everyone thought it was the pick of the range due its flexibility and performance combined and that Porsche GB expect it to be by far the strongest seller of the Cayenne range.

I haven’t looked in detail at an overnight tariff because I’ve only had the car two weeks but will start to look. A recent quick look seemed to suggest that there is a trade off for the cheap overnight rates with higher day rates? Any suggestions most welcome as we are quite high electricity consumers even without the E-Hybrid.

[S_13]

Considering a e hybrid coupe, does anyone have any tips for funding? Porsche PCP is quite ridiculous at 11.9% I’ve seen lots of stock cars with about £3-4K off has anyone beat this or have better finance suggestions?