Another Gallardo buying question

[madmedman]

ex-devonpaul said:

Not sure about it being too pricey, especially if the service history backs up the mileage, and the fact they're happy got yu to take it to RE says a lot about their confidence in the car. Compare it to the one a year newer and £12k (after fees) more at paddleup, with 50k more on the clock and essentially a Private sale and it seems a bargain

But, if every time you walk in the garage and think "should have bought a yellow one" then it isn't for you.

Thank you. That makes a lot of sense. I think the black car is very well looked after and the dealer has been very flexible. They have reassured me that all the paperwork is consistent with mileage. I need to take some initiative and see the car in person. Hopefully will be able to organize the PPI. RE performance says they are very flexible with PPIs appointments and can get me in at a short notice.

[madmedman]

ghost83 said:

Could just get the sprayable ppf in any colour you want that solves the whole yellow debate

Oh man, I didnt know that. Is it a ppf that can be prepainted before applying? I imagine it will be a bit costly compared to normal ppf.

[madmedman]

ghost83 said:

Litchfield also do it I believe

Op there is a black spyder e gear 2008 pre lp reg mish gp on pistonheads and autotrader up at 73k on the gallardo Facebook group he’s dropped it to 65k from what he’s said it has been looked after by Lamborghini

Cheers mate. I will check it out. I'm more of a fan of coupes as it gives a feeling of confinement and disconnection from the world But i will check the car out.

[madmedman]

70proof said:

Sprayable ppf is like topaz skin, sprayed directly onto paint, peelable off

Allows change of colour

Thank you. I have found a few people who do it and will get a quote. Cheers.

[madmedman]

ghost83 said:

Let me know how much it is if you can, also regarding prices there is a gallardo spyder on collecting cars at the minute, currently at 43k so will be interesting to see what that sells for as the market is fairly stagnant when you look at what people are trying to sell for, could it be worthwhile holding off to see if the market corrects in the short term

I will. Thank you. Will keep an eye on the auction. I think for now, I will watch the market as well for the next couple of months. But not sure I may pull the trigger on a very good deal.

[madmedman]

David_T said:

Sold for £64,125 including fees.

Thanks for the heads up mate. Looks like the reasonable going rate for these cars. I have been holding off thinking they may drop in price in winter but will see.

[madmedman]

Dear all,

I am viewing a car on friday. Can I please request help from you guys/gals? I tried to upload a picture but didnt work, probably as i am using a work computer.

The e-gear snap test shows:

Self caliberated closed clutch position: 22.0mm
Clutch position closed-as when new: 17.7mm

Difference: 4.3mm

This test was done 16k miles ago.

Does this give any indication of how the clutch was back then? The seller is offering to change the clutch provided I pay 5k deposit now. I also need to do a PPI as car has 40k miles and still on stock cats. Its a 2008 and refresh so probably a bit better than early models?

The seller would get the clutch job done by super car clinic in Bolton. Anyone knows about them? If I pay a deposit, I need the job to be done by someone reliable. I would also ask them to do a PPI if they are.

Also, any way i could check for underlying cylinder scoring without a borescope (in case i couldnt have this done)? Some people stated cold start and blue smoke. But any video or tips how to tell the bad smoke from normal one? This would be my first proper car.

Edited by madmedman on Wednesday 26th July 12:35

[madmedman]

Sorry, another question (or a couple )

Do I check for evidence of service done yearly? Most cars I have checked have had these done every couple of years (and 2-3k miles).

[madmedman]

Paid deposit on this car.

https://youtu.be/MyH32rUCUtk

https://www.randsperformancenwltd.co.uk/used/cars/...

Will be going for a snap test and change if the clutch is not new enough.

https://www.randsperformancenwltd.co.uk/used/cars/...

One of the reasons I went for this one is because it has been the youngest pre-lp for sale for the past few months, has only two owners and all services done by Lambo Manchester. And in person it looked great.

The only thing I noted was that the driver side door, when closed, was a mm of so protruding out. I am not sure if it was just the door handle or the whole door but i think something was off. The seller didnt seem to know much about it. But the rest of the car was so mint that I had to not miss it.

It also had the original CATs in, which I will change as soon as I get the car. Any advice on where to get a good deal on sport CATs?

Also, re the exhaust, any X-pipe will give the F1 sound? Do I really have to get the big brands (Tubi, Fabspeed) or any cheaper alternatives?

I am happy and anxious at the same time.

[madmedman]

70proof said:

many congrats!! i know you wanted a manual but you will enjoy the egear regardless

the clutch plate is 10mm thick, replacement is advised after 7mm of wear, but you can drive it up to 9mm, if its done 16k miles since, then defo get an uptodate reading

dont rush to change the exhaust. i had stock on my prelp and it was plenty loud for me, they sound like a v8 between 3 and 4k revs, then that magical v10 after.... db wise i was just below a quicksilver exhaust at wilton house sound test!

Thanks mate, I took your advice regarding getting the youngest pre-lp. And I have been reading a bit about the continuous refinements to the clutch and suspension improvements. Looking back, I think the reason I wanted the manual was because of the hype and potential increasing value over time. I am just planning to enjoy the car and I am sure e-gear will serve me fine.

I am not rushing with the exhaust, just thinking of changing the cats due to the stories I have heard about the bore scoring and oil consumption due to them. But I am worried the car would get too loud. It’s was loud with the stock exhaust bits and anything more would be quite antisocial and I wouldn’t be able to start it at night.

The seller is going to get a clutch reading and if it was not nearly new, they will have it changed. The last owner had the car for two years and didn’t know if it was changed.

I am over the moon and can’t wait to get the car.

The only downside I noted is that compared to earlier cars, the road tax is double

[madmedman]

andymc said:

reviews seem mixed of the garage?

Yea, I almost forgot about them, but just ignored them when I saw the car. I don’t want to go back and read them again

[madmedman]

Hoofy said:

Whatever you do, get that cat changed to a modern smaller cat. From my understanding of things, it's a guaranteed fked engine over time with the original cats, not just a % chance like most other horror stories you hear about cars.

Yea, That’s the first thing I am going to do when I get the car. I have been contemplating between sport and decats. The larini sports are £2k, thrice the price of decats. But the decats need to be put back in every year for mot. Can’t decide.

[madmedman]

andrew said:

if you replace the cats first, then you may decide that they provide enough extra noise, without the expense of a new exhaust
also talk to someone who knows what they're talking about and try the valves open reversible freebie mod

Cheers mate. I didn't know I could force the valves open. I will look into it and try it if the sound is underwhelming. But from what I heard, the car is loud enough. I am only changing the cats as the preventative measure.

I am really looking forward to some spirited driving sessions. Never had anything more than 6 cylinders so it should be fun. I guess the only reason to go for a catback is to have the f1 sound but I want the sound to be bearable for the neighbours. Me, I don't mind. I has an M4 with 200 cell downpipes and straight through everything else. It would set neighbours alarms off with start.

[madmedman]

Hoofy said:

Yep, do the mod first!

I wouldn't decat. Just cba with having to deal with it every year.

I will do. I think it has to be catted pipes. I do love wrenching but I know doing it every year to swap cats would get old quick. Those larini ones look lovely.

[madmedman]

Hoofy said:

Yeah, I guess the £3k cost is just what needs to be done so you have to suck it up. It saves a £20k rebuild!

As for the exhaust mod:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58kWDMS-D2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkmt8yxda_A

Cheers, thank you. Looks like a day 1 mod and very easy to do.

I went ahead and ordered the larini sport cats. Now if I could get the car soon. Next couple of weeks will be painful

[madmedman]

ex-devonpaul said:

Better he sucks it up than the engine does

[madmedman]

p4cks said:

Let me know how you get on with these please. Also, what was the total cost from Larini, incl delivery? You can email me if you don't want it public

Cheers. I will let you know.

I ordered from Larini website. The "clubsport catalysts" are £1956. From what I have read, they are 200 cell hjs. The catless are £650.

I filled in a form to place the order, it didn't ask for any shipping cost. The form seemed like one of those enquiry forms rather than an order form. But I did have to fill in card details are delivery address. But no delivery options came up. The CATs are in stock though.

[madmedman]

p4cks said:

Yeah same thing with me too, it didn't 'feel' like I was placing an order. Also, it makes reference to VAT needing to be added too... so expect a +20% uplift before they even add shipping

Yea, just realized VAT will be added as well. But whenever I have ordered parts from abroad, I get hit with VAT and customs. Now wondering if it were a good idea to have bought locally. But couldnt find any resellers and no ebay hits.

I will try and find if any uk vendors sell it locally and will cancel the current order.

[madmedman]

Hoofy said:

Could try cats from https://www.profusionexhausts.com/ (not a recommendation as such). Might need to speak to them.

Thank you. I might ask them the overall cost of fabrication, but i am sure it will come with lambo tax. The CATs are very reasonably priced but never heard their name. The Larini ones look like jewellery, very sexy.

[madmedman]

Hoofy said:

True. Let us know what they say. I can't really advise but I'm assuming as long as it's a 200CEL cat you're fine? I guess there's the issue of flange size... as with anything.

Yea, I am sure they will handle any flange size. I will ask and feedback. I dont have experience with lambo exausts, but with BMW M, they do lead to EML with 200 cell and non-HJS or other reputable brand cats.

p4cks said:

Saw these online but something tells me that they may throw up an EML as they're straight through pipes:

https://www.cybox.co.uk/product/lamborghini-gallar...

Definitely EML. They are not clear whether these are for LP or Pre-LP. But looks like pre-LP.