1st Lambo - UK Purchase - Need all experienced owners help

1st Lambo - UK Purchase - Need all experienced owners help

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tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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Fast Eddie said:
andymc said:
you are stopping steering wheel trim from buying your car? FFS get it retrimmed
I have followed this thread from the beginning. This guy ain't buying anytime soon banghead
I stated I would wait for 2024 cars to come out from the start of the post.
I'm buying for me no one else and will buy in my own time.
Not sure why you want to rush someone into buying a car then moan when it makes perfect sense.
I've also gone from £200 to £250 and even considering going slightly higher if I can get a 2019 / 2020 car and it's as close to perfect as I can get for what I want.

You guys on commission?
Do you see how what you say sounds?
Not just you Fast Eddie, but a few.
Same as Batman experienced.
Not all my questions have been answered, its 29th December and you expect me to go out and buy a car now??!! Like right now!!!!
If you dont have advice on the vehicle then why would you log on, and post crap??
Why not, do something else and leave this thread alone?
Why ruin it?
This is your life wasting away on moaning about when I am buying a car that I have already stated!!!!!
Some of you guys are like bullies. It's sad.
Makes me wonder if half of the people here are honest about the cars they have. A few of you seem to have some very nice cars but your behaviour is off?? I don't get it. I am so grateful for my life and the cars I have which aren't even like an aventador. I'm always nice though. But when I answer back at silly questions you then claim I am lying or provoking something. Well you know it all. I must be wrong! Whatever.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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sardis said:
I’m surprised the double barrelled name isn’t ringing any bells.

Anyway Merry Christmas one and all.

driving
You must be very intelligent

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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TP321 said:
Fast Eddie said:
I have followed this thread from the beginning. This guy ain't buying anytime soon banghead
i agree ??
learn to read, you have offered zero advice but still you post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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Kerniki said:
andymc said:
you are stopping steering wheel trim from buying your car? FFS get it retrimmed
Thought the same @ wheels hehe
thought you were going to leave the thread alone!!!!!!!!
here we go again!!!!!!!!

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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i see why people don't post very often. A lot of you a very rude and jump up and down a lot.

Get a life.

The reason some of you think people lie is because you know how much you lie so you believe others lie and you must point this out ignoring your own problems. I don't need to lie about a car, it's sad. You have zero proof of any lies, it's pure speculation and it makes you look dumb.
You pick at the smallest things moaning about wheels and a steering wheel when getting a leather steering wheel isn't hard and the wheels are something most people want to be right for them. Seems very dumb to then get a steering wheel retrimmed!!!!!
just buy a £250 car with wheels I dont like, yes that makes sense.
Well it's 29th Dec and a few of you have nothing better to do.

Well i guess money does grow on trees and a lot of you are tree trimmers

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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andymc said:
tigertiger12 said:
andymc said:
you are stopping steering wheel trim from buying your car? FFS get it retrimmed
Yep, I can get it retrimmed easy, I have had various works done professionally to various cars but dont wish to void a warranty.
In any case at this price I want the car to be as I want, there will be some things I cant do without and some I will compromise but the steering wheel makes little sense to get retrimmed. Chill dude.
How would retrimming a steering wheel void a warranty? I’m pretty sure Lambo would retro fit a steering wheel, at your price point a bag of sand or so to have your perfect car is chicken feed
I don't know but I know they will use any excuse and it is not relevant as I am not interested in that car and it is not hard to get a car with a leather steering wheel. Also, if they will re-trim the steering wheel why not just say that?? but it is still irrelevant for more than one reason. You still did not say what you should have said, which is I should ask them to retro fit a leather steering wheel. make your mind up.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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andymc said:
tigertiger12 said:
andymc said:
you are stopping steering wheel trim from buying your car? FFS get it retrimmed
Yep, I can get it retrimmed easy, I have had various works done professionally to various cars but dont wish to void a warranty.
In any case at this price I want the car to be as I want, there will be some things I cant do without and some I will compromise but the steering wheel makes little sense to get retrimmed. Chill dude.
How would retrimming a steering wheel void a warranty? I’m pretty sure Lambo would retro fit a steering wheel, at your price point a bag of sand or so to have your perfect car is chicken feed
you are actually sitting waiting for a reply or subbed this thread to reply asap!!!!!
I agree if the car was perfect I could ask but it is not and I am not interested in that car for a few reasons.
Whatever i say i will be in the wrong!!!!
if it is so good, you buy the car!!!!!
I would rather buy a car and not change a thing, until the warranty is over.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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andrew said:
did you buy a huracan in the end ?
You OK??
Clearly not.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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andrew said:
tigertiger12 said:
andrew said:
did you buy a huracan in the end ?
You OK??
Clearly not.
fine thanks
can i ask why not ? you appeared close to doing so
It seems you cannot read at all then, I have never stated that I am buying a car this year. If you can read then you should know.
Why are you posting??
There has been more attitude than advice!

Clearly you have an attitude from this question alone!

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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andrew said:
tigertiger12 said:
andrew said:
did you buy a huracan in the end ?
You OK??
Clearly not.
fine thanks
can i ask why not ? you appeared close to doing so
let me know by simply posting here that you understand now that you were wrong and that I never stated nor did I appear to be close to buying a car.
Just so myself and everyone else knows and you can increase your post count to increase your self worth to yourself.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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FuzzBuzz said:
TigerTiger12,

I’ve come across this thread as I too am intrigued by the Aventador.

You have many many questions, but I want to say that Imho your posting style can be rather dismissive and at times aggressive, and as such not very conducive to requesting advice on a forum (I am saying this as someone who also has a low post count).

So, my advice (from experience) would be to book an appointment and go talk to a couple of different dealers/groups. Go speak to their service teams. You may be surprised, I’d expect they could answer 99% of all your questions. My experience is mostly with Ferrari, but their dealers have spent hours talking me through warranty options, modification implementations, service requirements, cost etc on cars I don’t/didn’t own at the time. In fact these conversations are what can start built the relationship with the dealers and, when It comes to buying, will likely have you taken very seriously when requesting a test drive or putting that first low offer in.

Speaking of which, if I were in the position to drop 200k on an Aventador and looking for the best time to buy, then right now (at year end) is when I’d be making those low offers. Personally, I don’t think it will be a better time to buy until winter 2024.
I don't see how I have come across dismissive or aggressive until after this has been shown to me. if you do please show me. In fact I often use polite words as it is natural to me to be nice. Not one person has been able to show me that I have said something wrong or rude.

I can book appointments and will start to do so in a couple of months, I came here to ask some questions first as this is the point of the forum. I don't have an issue being taken seriously when I'm at a dealer, just here! However the independant dealers don't allow test drives just like that. Not an issue for me either, but would rather not waste their or my time until I find a car I want to buy. I also dont see the point test driving a car I wont buy. I have most of the answers I need and the rest I can get from dealers.

In any case pushing me to buy a car now?? like why! what difference does it make to people I dont know. So, if I told you something and you did not listen and learnt yourself later, i wouldn't get annoyed by it.
moaning about me not wanting alcantara on the steering wheel and wheels makes no sense when anyone would look at their own preferences.
The same has happened before to people.
Then the gang jumping on me about lying about buying a car!!! it's ridiculous. Really sad. It's pathetic. I am only responding in the same manner than has been done to me.
Also, trying to get people to just answer a question straight is a joke. One spoke about retrimming a steering wheel, then later said retrofit, 2 completely different things. Numerous messages about me not really wanting to buy even when I stated in my first post when I was going to buy a car.
If now is the best time why would dealers drop their prices? then raise them for summer when more people buy?
Why don't people buy cars in winter?
I even said I have to change my garage doors - so, it will not happen till that is done which should be around feb.
In any case it was me that was messaged rudely a few times. I've done well in life and i'm very happy but these people dont seem happy at all, as if something is wrong with them, they seem very angry. I've only responded in the same manner and have laughed so much from a post about buying a car!!!
You have to admit it is funny as....
Furthermore, everyone going on about me not being serious about buying a car is wrong. Why care?? Why not... just not post?? The point is they just wish to ruin this thread for others to not respond. That's it. Because they are not happy!! I won't do as they say!! I wont buy a car now or the car they tell me is the right one for me!!! Sorry, but this is just too funny. I cannot believe I am having to explain this.

Please, show me what I have said that was wrong. I will then show you repeated messages that were rude and not needed at all. I even ignored a couple of posts myself but it went on. Lets be serious though there are many here that lie about the cars they have. How does someone have a post count around 5000 or 10000? That's a lot of time to spend on a forum that does not pay.
I wonder how some of them get through life like this. I'm not even being funny, It makes me feel great, simply as I do not behave in this manner to people.
I will be printing this thread, showing people and saving it for memories. Seems the truth hurts more than anything else.
Did you read Batman's thread? Same happened to me when I enquired about a Mclaren, but went off it when I went to see one and saw numerous panel gaps. Decided it was just not for me. The huracan guys were good, things have moved on. Most of the people replying here do not own an aventador in any case. Some only see things from their own financial perspective. One talking about changing the clutch on his aventador and trying to get it done cheap. Why would you do this to an aventador? it's because you can't afford the car. If he had enough money he would simply get it done by a reputable place which means a lot for resale. The cost is what it is. There are some things in life you can get done cheap, some things you shouldn't. I wouldn't need to make a thread about trying to get the costs down.

Yep, i'm a straight talker, interesting that i've done well as many people are extremely trustful of me, I could give you so many examples. As far as I am concerned I was messaged rude first, it then went on. I left it and asked the guy questions he did not want to answer and what he said was just wrong in the first place. Surprised you dont see this. i'm just holding my own and did so in the same manner after some time.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Then there is the repetition of the same thing by different people, talking complete rubbish.
Asking if I have bought a car, about me being close to buying a car!!!
about an alcantara steering wheel
about the wheels!!!!! as if people dont want specific wheels.

All I have done is reacted the same back.

So just to be sure if you have responded but not bothered to read my first post.

I am not buying a car till maybe april, I dont really know!!!
Yes I will get one with the wheels I like and the steering wheel wont be alcantara.

Hope that is ok with you guys!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, around april, not sure exactly, but not this month at all.
Really, honestly. Not now and not likely January either, hope this is suitable and you all approve!!
or give me the money and i'll buy the car you tell me, immediately.

I cannot stop laughing. I really cant.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Kerniki said:
Comedy gold, dont stop Tiger thumbup

your effort to ‘try’ and poke whilst explaining yourself is revealing and entertaining in equal measure, i’m hoping for some hall of fame moments here hehe

you have great potential, your use of english adds a certain flare for me…

I’m back in and topped up, XL stylee

Don't get you about my english? Don't care either.
But you are very snide, stop posting. Your life is a joke, sitting on a forum only trying to cause trouble which was always your intention.
This is what you do!!
So now I've mentioned laughing at your posts you throw this back, Sad.
Not trying to poke, being honest. Much more than you. You do this to others also.

I can do the same, follow your posts and make snide comments, it's easy, too easy. It eats your life and you dont even see it.
It is obviously getting to you as you have to have a pop back to try to be annoying when for me it's interesting.
You wouldn't understand how or why.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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lambo666 said:
Shame, all this nonsense puts off real owners contributing to these forums.
Many have left, the response below is the best one from another forum if anyone is seriously considering any aventador.



"A lot of these questions I think can be answered if you go directly to an official Lamborghini Dealer in the UK, like HR Owen. If in doubt just reach out to them, I deal directly with London and Hatfield and they are absolutely superb, happy to recommend a name as well if you like. All the other big names are also pretty experienced and equipped with knowledge, Top555, Romans, European Prestige, VVS."

My only advice would be make sure you have an official warranty, so the gearbox is covered, as I have been through 3 gearboxes across 2 different cars in a total of 22,000 miles (17 year 'S' and a 19 year 'S' roadster).
And no, cruise control was never an option in any aventador model.
Thanks for the info, indeed I will be going to a dealer but wanted some info beforehand, which is what these forums are for and part of some research I am doing before I buy the car. I agree that this does put real owners off which is a shame.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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Most responses have been negative from the very start. The roof box caused some and others just jump in to try to claim I have no interest in buying. Well you are all wrong. You know what you are doing, who would go through this, buy the car then post pics? Which is why you do this.

Most of the insults are so narrow minded it only reflects on you. There is no proof at all I have no interest in buying the car and literally everything you have said about me is just assumption and all wrong. Clearly i'm older than you think, don't know my parents and haven't for well over 30 years. Most of you dont even have an aventador which are the people who should really be commenting. If you dont own or have not owned an aventador what you say is not as relevant as someone who does as it is speculation. The assumptions about my employment are wrong also. Basically you haven't got anything right. It says a lot that you gang up together on the same tip. You got jealousy bad. How you come up with these insults and assumptions amazes me, but sadly most people are thick otherwise everyone would be rich. It is typical to jump in like this to put other decent people who want to answer off from replying. Then ruin the thread purposefully as it puts others off. You also take one line repsonses from me and run with it. It's pointless repsonding when you pick at anything I say but your wrong and just nasty people anyway. I am so glad not to be you. From your repsonses I can't believe you own the cars you say you do. But hey keep up the insults, as if it makes you seem like such a good person, this is what you believe and only you.

It is clear you wait for such a post, only to try to claim the person is not really a buyer. It is clear now that even of the people that answered were really trying to get to this. It's sad. I realise that many of you are liars. I don't need to prove anything to a bunch of idiots. Batman had the same experience. You act like you know so much and don't even answer questions straight.

I will buy the car when I am ready and find the right one for me. The cars may be cheaper during winter but there are less available and none that really grab me. It makes sense that more will be available after winter and I am more likely to find one with the spec I like.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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TP321 said:
Absolutely no way is this person buying an Aventador. My guess is that he/she is not old enough to have a driving license….
Wrong, again. You want to be massaged for info, think you know it all because you claim to own an aventador but cant even afford to replace the clutch. Can't read and don't understand anything at all. You must be the poorest aventador owner in the world. The way you maintain your car no one would want to buy it if they knew the truth. Your only contribution was nonsense about a roadster and a roofbox, it was clear from this that you have no idea what you are talking about. The jealousy is so strong everything you do and say is wrong. If you don't have the money to get it fixed from a reputable place and not at the cheapest price then you shouldn't own one.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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Tyrell Corp said:
OP you are sounding like a spoiled kid now, name-calling and labeling us all as idiots and liars. Why you aren't being taken seriously here,

Don't you think uk exotic car dealers browse these threads here occasionally also ? Supercar owners often like their privacy and discretion is often key here; there may even be just the spec you want available but not openly advertised.

Serious question, but would you really be comfortable driving that head-turner super exotic around? cue loads of gawpers taking pics for their instagrams and loads of rude questions about money and what you do for a living etc...

( Never owned so just speculation)


and everyone else sounds 'normal' Yes, my mistake.
the rest including you clearly cant afford an aventador becuase you are just thick.
even if i did post pics you would never believe me.

just look at what you have written, as if any of it sounds like you are not jealous and child grade insults.
get a life. Looks who's been calling who names first. I tried not to but you will not listen to anything else.
it makes no difference now.
You are so daft you expect me to answer your questions? say i'm insulting as if none of you haven't. of course.
it took a fair amount of intelligence to get to where I am, especially from the life I had. That's why I was nice.
It makes no difference what I say, you twist and turn it around. it's sad.
From the very start most of you just wanted to say i'm a liar.

If you had a brain you would have asked those questions before the insults, I would have actually answered them.
But no, you demand I buy the car you like and right now, it's ridiculous. I stated roughly when I would buy the car in my first post.
One of the first people to reply went on about me buying a coupe becuase it can fit a roofbox instead of buying a roadster when i stated
coupe in the first line of my post. a few of you did similar.
You are the ones living a fantasy.
I will be buying the car when I am ready... and when I find the right one for me.

you realise you are proving that most people are thick which is why they are poor. You are claiming that people dont advertise cars they want to sell so they can wait for someone to post on a forum so they can offer the car. this really made me laugh. slow down and read what you are typing. So what you are saying is TP321 is famous or rich but wants to save on a clutch becuase he is frugal with his aventador. or is it becuase of how he maintains his aventador, if he even has one which I no longer believe? If any buyer knew how he maintained his aventador they would not buy it, especially reading his posts. It is interesting how you actually believe that what I have said is wrong but no one else. I have only told you the truth.
I am not the first person you have done this to and I am sure I wont be the last.
it is you guys that ruin the forum not just this thread.
you have all chucked your toys out of your pram, kicking and screaming, there is none that are so blind...




tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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RagingBulls said:
tigertiger12 said:
RagingBulls said:
If you really want one now is the time to buy, Come March prices will be back in the £250k starting point. The Aventador S also blows all the other cars you have mentioned out of the water - there is no comparison at all. I suggest you go and drive them all and you'll see what I mean. The AVS is an "experience" and even just looking at it parked in the drive or garage arouses emotions not found in any other car IMHO. The single clutch experience just adds to the value of owning a real piece of Italian history with proper character. A car which you control and not a computer!

Also don't rule out cars with Alcantara. My first one was leather and my current one has the quilted colour stitched alcantara - the alcantara makes the car feel extremely special over one that has leather IMHO! They last extremely well, the alcantara game has moved on a lot and not like the older cars where they wear down like towels do!

Edited by RagingBulls on Thursday 28th December 18:32
Why would prices go back up in March? Prices are going down, not much on these cars but there is some more room for adjustment. I get that winter will be over and summer on the way but still don't see prices going up. I'm happy to take that risk and see, in the meantime the interest will also help balance out any price increase.
I'm happy to take my time and see more cars become available. I'm happy to compromise on some items but not on things such as the wheels and leather steering wheel.
If something really nice comes available in the meantime I will go for it, but the one I really like is not sold by a main dealer and does not have the wheels I like. In any case I would not want an alcantara steering wheel but may compromise on the seats. Though someone mentioned it is actually suede which is interesting, still I prefer leather. I will do this in my own time, thanks. I also need to change the doors on my garage in order to get it in! Isn't a big job, and should be able to get this done by the end of Feb.
Because the supercar market is fked every December! Some people dont want to store the car and pay 6 months of repayments so many cars hit the market in the winter and prices drop. As summer kicks in stocks evaporate fast and prices creep back up - happens every year. Anyway Ive given you the advice I had to as an owner of an LP740-4 so will leave you to it. Look forward to the custard photos soon ;-)
Thanks for the clarification, but is not 100% accurate, like people buy cars just for summer and on finance? or want to sell it for less in winter.
I am sure there is the odd person that does this but I am not buying on finance which should be obvious, so this would not apply to me. It also means there would be less cars so less choice for me.
I bought 1 supercar on finance paid it in 5 years (no balloon), kept it for 10 and just saved, then bought a BMW for the mrs paid 2 grand and yes it was her choice, now I dont buy cars on finance. it's actually very easy and if you pay fianace then you can afford to do it but you cant afford to wait.

People who claim fianace is better simply cannot afford to buy the car outright, it actually makes no sense, to get more than £250 finance on a car is not easy, you need to have assets or provide a personal guarantee so is possible. It only really makes sense if you have more than 20 times the value of the car in the bank earning interest that covers your repayment. most people are not in this position and no one likes to admit they cannot afford a car that they drive. Balloon finance was created to prevent people from paying for the car in full, most dont have the lump sum at the end so they offer you much less for your car claiming they need to change a bunch of parts, but can get you in a new car, and those people dont have much choice at all as far as they are concerned. They will even give you more of a discount than I could get paying for the car outright because they make so much from the finance.

I am also not worried about the price difference from summer to winter as I don't think it is that great and as you say happens every year, the situation since covid has been different and cars have dropped last year already. I would rather pay more for the car in the spec I want. The 'S' is available from £200 but I would prefer a newer model with as long a warranty as I can get. in fact everything I have said makes perfect sense yet most don't want to believe. it's brilliant. This thread is a keeper. It's a clear reminder of the jealousy I will experience, but i get it anyway and dont even have a lambo.

When many of you respond you do not think it through fully. At the same time there are more cars available after winter so it would be easier for me to find one that suits me colour, wheels, spec etc. It is exactly the same as insulting someone from the start, instead of just answering what you can and asking to post pics when the car comes and leave it at that. I would have posted pics and even with the roofbox which for me is important, that frunk is tiny even for a weekend away.

You are well aware that no one that is insulted would post pics of their car when they buy it. This is certainly not the first time you have done this.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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lambo666 said:
Just to note if you are a genuine buyer, can you..

1) Fit in one? not much room inside if you are either 5'11 plus, or with a large frame if shorter..
2) Get insurance? - you may find it hard unless you have a c.c.t.v equipped garage, and live outside the London M25 area.
3) Had previous experience insuring a high value performance car with no claims (nearly all brokers will want proof of this)
1. yes easy. size is no problem, this is also why I can keep leather seats in good condition.
2. yes, got a quote and was pleasantly surprised as I thought it would be more. yes have an extensive cctv system. auto PTZ, dont live in london. thought it would be almost double the quote, but would have paid that anyway. Though dont see the big deal living in London, see many aventadors in london, I often travel there. I will also get a dashcam because people are crazy and lie.
3. yes, have driven supercars for over 20 years. Have a lot of no claims which I will transfer to this car and re-insure the car that is used on. I have a few cars, nothing crazy but all paid for and none cheap.

no offence but I am sure this will be taken wrong in any case, it would have been better to ask this before the insults, not just you, i mean anyone. I used a £300k 2020 car as an example and did not provide the registration number. Just to see what I would expect.
Also I change insurance company every year and last few years have specifically not been asked for proof, maybe there system has this. I recently insured a car and got an email saying no claims was verified and proof was not required so think their system has this info. I always get protected no claims.

tigertiger12

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130 posts

41 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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W4NTED said:
Jeez, I genuinely tried to help this kid but after this response Im 100% sure this is a kid on xmas holidays going back to school end of this week biggrin


Edited by W4NTED on Wednesday 3rd January 13:26
you calling any of this help is where your problem is.