Special car, quiet forum...why?
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TP321 said:
Is it true that the S sounds better than the SVJ?
The problem with SVJ is that its quiet at normal speeds, all the other modern Lambo's the valves fully open as standard in some modes or they have optional software to do that. SVJ the valves don't open until halfway up the rev range in any mode and so despite it being louder than say an SV at full whack you are very rarely moving at a speed where you can get to appreciate or enjoy the noise.
topjay said:
TP321 said:
Is it true that the S sounds better than the SVJ?
The problem with SVJ is that its quiet at normal speeds, all the other modern Lambo's the valves fully open as standard in some modes or they have optional software to do that. SVJ the valves don't open until halfway up the rev range in any mode and so despite it being louder than say an SV at full whack you are very rarely moving at a speed where you can get to appreciate or enjoy the noise.
Likewise @Gameface, would you choose the perf over the AV?
Gameface said:
I've got an Aventador and a Performante Spyder and the Performante is just so much more usable.
Size, gearbox, cabin, engine noise are all better. Faster too seemingly.
Aventador has the proper doors and gets more attention but the Performante doesn't exactly pass by unnoticed.
Yea I totally get that, the perf is so easy to drive - and quickly too, The way it handles makes you think you're an absolute driving God. The AV whilst much more of an event, I found on mine that it was hard work to drive for anything over an hour - you really have to wrestle with that car. Size, gearbox, cabin, engine noise are all better. Faster too seemingly.
Aventador has the proper doors and gets more attention but the Performante doesn't exactly pass by unnoticed.
Good to see your still here mate
Gameface said:
I seriously considered it, but the wall the window would need to go in is a supporting wall (and has a lot of the house security system in it) so I couldn't be bothered with the extra grief.
Yea I get that, sometimes the want doesn't out weigh the headache and potential cost to do so. if your anything like me your chain of thought was window... then a see through fish tank...then a marine one.. where does it all stop
As it's been covered, there are simply not many V12 Lambo owners. Nor, have the time and desire to pop onto a forum. At the same time most AV/Muci & Diablo owners tend to be more in their prime and struggle with whatsapp let alone signing up to a BB, setting up a profile to chat to randoms. Think of the generation above yours and then think how they would cope with a [PIC] tag! PH like most other BB's can be a nasty place.
V12's are not cheap, the ones that can do a [PIC] tag are too young to accumulate enough money or maybe lack desire for a V12.
So you are left with a small pool, that probably run into a tech issue and the rest cant afford one. Perfect storm. At least with the Fez forums that small pool is considerably larger. Lambos whist it may not seem it to Lambo owners, are still a very rare car. Many people have never seen one. I cant see the Pagani or Koenigsegg forums being that active either.
Take HML - The most popular Lambo car, the Urus - 449 OTR. Fez - there are some 5/6 models in excesss of 449 OTR.
Plus the V12 crew is too busy out cruising with the doors up enjoying themselves At the same time a modern Lambo doesn't really have too many issues unlike MACs talking about their panel gaps and warranty claims and Fez's talking about residual values if it isn't red. The most interesting thing on Lambo forums is helping someone choose a spec!
Its a good thing, but unfortunately a lonely place however when Lambo owners are out to represent they do so in a far higher percentile than most other marques
V12's are not cheap, the ones that can do a [PIC] tag are too young to accumulate enough money or maybe lack desire for a V12.
So you are left with a small pool, that probably run into a tech issue and the rest cant afford one. Perfect storm. At least with the Fez forums that small pool is considerably larger. Lambos whist it may not seem it to Lambo owners, are still a very rare car. Many people have never seen one. I cant see the Pagani or Koenigsegg forums being that active either.
Take HML - The most popular Lambo car, the Urus - 449 OTR. Fez - there are some 5/6 models in excesss of 449 OTR.
Plus the V12 crew is too busy out cruising with the doors up enjoying themselves At the same time a modern Lambo doesn't really have too many issues unlike MACs talking about their panel gaps and warranty claims and Fez's talking about residual values if it isn't red. The most interesting thing on Lambo forums is helping someone choose a spec!
Its a good thing, but unfortunately a lonely place however when Lambo owners are out to represent they do so in a far higher percentile than most other marques
TP321 said:
Is it true that the S sounds better than the SVJ?
In further comments to your post here's a gratuitous pic of my old SV roadster .As I said earlier this sounded amazing, as any true petrol head will agree sound attributes to the whole parcel and is a big part of the overall supercar experience, I think you get that with any Lambo, the tingles making you feel like a little boy again on start up, the same just can't be said for certain other marques.
Turbo cab said:
That makes sense, would you choose the SVJ over the SV?
Likewise @Gameface, would you choose the perf over the AV?
SV feels more special at non silly speeds partly because of its flaws, after the many years of updates its a lot easier to use as a road car now than it started out, corsa was initially so aggressive it was not really for road use at all. Likewise @Gameface, would you choose the perf over the AV?
SVJ is a better car all round and feels good on the road, much better to drive hard, it's sort of halfway between the earlier Aventadors and a Huracan. Feels a little magic has been lost over SV though because its now more rounded and doesn't have as many querks and better behaved.
Depends on what you want:
To keep, SV and for very occasional use
To actually use regularly now SVJ although its rear visibility is annoying as you could literally have a police car behind you with lights and sirens on and you probably wouldn't know!
TP321 said:
What’s the difference between Sport and Corsa on the Aventador S? Is it true that Sport is set up to use less of the 4WD so that it drives more like a rear wheel drive? And do these settings also alter the rear steering angles?
IIRC the modes simply changed the gearbox and throttle maps along with stiffening/softening of the suspension.The main flaw with the AV was that you wanted the speed of the gearbox change with Corsa but with all the sound and drama of Sport, even with EGO mode you couldn't achieve this.
I could be wrong but I don't think the AVS was that technologically advanced that it could adjust the 4wd or rear steering angles, despite the introduction of 4WS on the S it was all based upon revamped old technology.
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