BMW 330e ordered...
Discussion
RicksAlfas said:
Yes, fair point.
It's the split personality of these cars which I think is so appealing. On the one hand you get a good BIK friendly car. But on the other you can do 0-60 in six seconds.
No split there then, good BIK friendly car / can do 0-60 in six seconds = win / win lol.It's the split personality of these cars which I think is so appealing. On the one hand you get a good BIK friendly car. But on the other you can do 0-60 in six seconds.
Disclaimer: If you drive a cc with private fuel
I only found out this tip earlier this week, even having owned a 3 series for 4 years now :-)
I had always assumed the numbers 1-8 above the CD player were for saving radio stations. However they are actually short cut keys.
So now I have the keys set up as Sat Nav destination home, work, Eco Pro Energy Flow screen thingy, Sports Display, USB, Saved Stations and phone book.
It is just so much easier to press one button, rather than faffing with the iDrive. I am aware I may be the only person who owns a BMW that didn’t know this, but on both cars I have had, no one ever showed me this function.
To do it just use the iDrive to get to the screen you want, and then press and hold the selected number until it bleeps!
I had always assumed the numbers 1-8 above the CD player were for saving radio stations. However they are actually short cut keys.
So now I have the keys set up as Sat Nav destination home, work, Eco Pro Energy Flow screen thingy, Sports Display, USB, Saved Stations and phone book.
It is just so much easier to press one button, rather than faffing with the iDrive. I am aware I may be the only person who owns a BMW that didn’t know this, but on both cars I have had, no one ever showed me this function.
To do it just use the iDrive to get to the screen you want, and then press and hold the selected number until it bleeps!
Funkydunc said:
I only found out this tip earlier this week, even having owned a 3 series for 4 years now :-)
I had always assumed the numbers 1-8 above the CD player were for saving radio stations. However they are actually short cut keys.
So now I have the keys set up as Sat Nav destination home, work, Eco Pro Energy Flow screen thingy, Sports Display, USB, Saved Stations and phone book.
It is just so much easier to press one button, rather than faffing with the iDrive. I am aware I may be the only person who owns a BMW that didn’t know this, but on both cars I have had, no one ever showed me this function.
To do it just use the iDrive to get to the screen you want, and then press and hold the selected number until it bleeps!
Even more spookily, if you hover your finger over the button it tells you what the shortcut is without you needing to press it.I had always assumed the numbers 1-8 above the CD player were for saving radio stations. However they are actually short cut keys.
So now I have the keys set up as Sat Nav destination home, work, Eco Pro Energy Flow screen thingy, Sports Display, USB, Saved Stations and phone book.
It is just so much easier to press one button, rather than faffing with the iDrive. I am aware I may be the only person who owns a BMW that didn’t know this, but on both cars I have had, no one ever showed me this function.
To do it just use the iDrive to get to the screen you want, and then press and hold the selected number until it bleeps!
Very useful. I miss it now I don't have it.
davidab157 said:
If you get 6 miles from a full charge either there is a problem with your car or you are not driving it properly.
15 miles is fairly easily achievable on a daily basis,
15-20 miles covers the majority of daily commutes and that is what these cars are aimed at.
I guess you're doing very well. Interesting to hear other's experiences of their 330e cars.15 miles is fairly easily achievable on a daily basis,
15-20 miles covers the majority of daily commutes and that is what these cars are aimed at.
I only charge mine at work because I have no drive and running the trailing socket out to the car on the front is not for me. I do charge it at work when I can.
So today it was fully charged. I moved it to allow someone else to charge and got in it at 96%/11 miles to go home on the 6 mile commute...
So for me a 27 minute, 6 mile commute uses nearly all the battery when driven in battery only mode. I will add I don't go more than 30mph.
Edited by ism123 on Friday 16th December 17:52
ism123 said:
I guess you're doing very well. Interesting to hear other's experiences of their 330e cars.
I only charge mine at work because I have no drive and running the trailing socket out to the car on the front is not for me. I do charge it at work when I can.
So today it was fully charged. I moved it to allow someone else to charge and got in it at 96%/11 miles to go home on the 6 mile commute...
So for me a 27 minute, 6 mile commute uses nearly all the battery when driven in battery only mode. I will add I don't go more than 30mph.
So only 6 miles for 71%. Did you mean not above a steady 13mph or was it stop start? 27 minutes heating & lighting would do it at this time of year lol.I only charge mine at work because I have no drive and running the trailing socket out to the car on the front is not for me. I do charge it at work when I can.
So today it was fully charged. I moved it to allow someone else to charge and got in it at 96%/11 miles to go home on the 6 mile commute...
So for me a 27 minute, 6 mile commute uses nearly all the battery when driven in battery only mode. I will add I don't go more than 30mph.
Edited by ism123 on Friday 16th December 17:52
I was around 18 miles in the summer and now down to 12/13 usually. That is with air con, 600w HK belting out, satnav screen and lights etc on mind you.
I've had a 330e for a little over a month now and done 1300 miles. My daily commute (17 miles each way) has settled down to 140mpg+ out, 50mpg back (eco pro auto edrive). I can't currently charge at work just at home so thats really not bad. I am working on getting charging points installed at work since we have over 10 EVs and PHEVs there now. Its a company lease so way cheaper than a 320i or 320d (or even a Golf GTD).
Trips to the supermarket, station or cinema work on pure electric mode. The worst mpg I have seen is 23 when i had a spirited drive in sport along country lanes. Long journeys work out 45mpg although even with low battery (4-10%) it will creep in traffic and keep up 30mph on a flat using electric drive. There are two electric modes - one with 80hp when the battery is charged over 10% and the low power mode when its below. I've actually burnt a few cars off at lights in pure EV mode.
I'm very happy with it, although there is certainly room for improvement, both in range and also the "smart" routing that clearly doesn't work with business nav. I'd also like a touring since the boot is tiny. Its only a 2 year lease so hopeful either the new 5 or 3 will come with a touring hybrid option.
Trips to the supermarket, station or cinema work on pure electric mode. The worst mpg I have seen is 23 when i had a spirited drive in sport along country lanes. Long journeys work out 45mpg although even with low battery (4-10%) it will creep in traffic and keep up 30mph on a flat using electric drive. There are two electric modes - one with 80hp when the battery is charged over 10% and the low power mode when its below. I've actually burnt a few cars off at lights in pure EV mode.
I'm very happy with it, although there is certainly room for improvement, both in range and also the "smart" routing that clearly doesn't work with business nav. I'd also like a touring since the boot is tiny. Its only a 2 year lease so hopeful either the new 5 or 3 will come with a touring hybrid option.
I ordered an Msport version in August and am now told it is in build status with delivery expected at the end of Jan.
I am really looking forward to this arriving. Currently drive a max spec'd 2.0 turbo new shape mondeo.
I added a bunch of extras but it won't be as well appointed as my current car but the essentials covered (prof nav, stop go adaptive cruise etc). I am a cc who can charge each end and have a commute round trip of 23 miles so I may even in summer be able to do it all on electric with only charging at work. Any time I'm not driving that commute for work then as I see it the first gallon of fuel is replaced by elec which can only be a good thing. I refuse to drive a diesel (asthmatic and don't like pm10's) so with the BIK this is almost designed for my scenario and almost a perfect match for me.
There are a few routes I can take from 8miles of motorway or alternatively a 30mph semi urban run which may give better range. Longer work runs will match the mondeo. (38 on motorway long distance adaptive cruise, 28 urban/spirited)
Clearly the government set the BIK as an incentive to facilitate the infrastructure and technology development. Saving a gallon of fuel a day must be a good thing.
An no nasty dusty pm10/5's. We should all have them.
I am really looking forward to this arriving. Currently drive a max spec'd 2.0 turbo new shape mondeo.
I added a bunch of extras but it won't be as well appointed as my current car but the essentials covered (prof nav, stop go adaptive cruise etc). I am a cc who can charge each end and have a commute round trip of 23 miles so I may even in summer be able to do it all on electric with only charging at work. Any time I'm not driving that commute for work then as I see it the first gallon of fuel is replaced by elec which can only be a good thing. I refuse to drive a diesel (asthmatic and don't like pm10's) so with the BIK this is almost designed for my scenario and almost a perfect match for me.
There are a few routes I can take from 8miles of motorway or alternatively a 30mph semi urban run which may give better range. Longer work runs will match the mondeo. (38 on motorway long distance adaptive cruise, 28 urban/spirited)
Clearly the government set the BIK as an incentive to facilitate the infrastructure and technology development. Saving a gallon of fuel a day must be a good thing.
An no nasty dusty pm10/5's. We should all have them.
There's clearly a divide of opinion here and it's quite obvious the reason some people went for the car was the low BIK and cheap lease due to govt grants.. only to complain it doesn't meet expectations when you're not using it as intended
The battery does indeed go down quickly, but battery regen helps, and actually around town and parking etc the Electric motor makes it a real pleasure to drive. I find when not charging that reversing is a real pain and sluggish and the car becomes a hassle.. but when charged the car glides.
I also find that if you don't have a charging point readily available and easy access then it's also a pain .. but actually even without charging , it's faster and more fuel efficient than a 320i so it's really no comparison
The battery does indeed go down quickly, but battery regen helps, and actually around town and parking etc the Electric motor makes it a real pleasure to drive. I find when not charging that reversing is a real pain and sluggish and the car becomes a hassle.. but when charged the car glides.
I also find that if you don't have a charging point readily available and easy access then it's also a pain .. but actually even without charging , it's faster and more fuel efficient than a 320i so it's really no comparison
Edited by Mcpaynter on Saturday 17th December 18:54
Edited by Mcpaynter on Saturday 17th December 20:03
Mcpaynter said:
There's clearly a divide of opinion here and it's quite obvious the reason some people went for the car was the low BIK and cheap lease due to govt grants.. only to complain it doesn't meet expectations when you're not using it as intended
The battery does indeed go down quickly, but battery regen helps, and actually around town and parking etc the Electric motor makes it a real pleasure to drive. I find when not charging that reversing is a real pain and sluggish and the car becomes a hassle.. but when charged the car glides.
I also find that if you don't have a charging point readily available and easy access then it's also a pain .. but actually even without charging , it's faster and more fuel efficient than a 320i so it's really no comparison
The battery does indeed go down quickly, but battery regen helps, and actually around town and parking etc the Electric motor makes it a real pleasure to drive. I find when not charging that reversing is a real pain and sluggish and the car becomes a hassle.. but when charged the car glides.
I also find that if you don't have a charging point readily available and easy access then it's also a pain .. but actually even without charging , it's faster and more fuel efficient than a 320i so it's really no comparison
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 17th December 18:54
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 17th December 20:03
Am I right in thinking it's more expensive than a 320i as well? How does the fuel saving measure up to the extra cost?
REALIST123 said:
Am I right in thinking it's more expensive than a 320i as well? How does the fuel saving measure up to the extra cost?
I drive an m sport, the 330e is £34.2k with current grant. . The 320i is £32k and 330i £35k. Not sure why you want to compare apples and oranges though, it is a 330e not a 320e.I got the full £5k so my 330e was cheaper than the 320i and there is absolutely no comparison. The 330e is also way ahead of my 328i it replaced for mpg and costs. Given I am sitting at 49mpg overall with all electricity free, I doubt the 320i figures are a worry. Not charging the 330e still appears to deliver between 35 - 40 mpg going by posts on here which may(?) be slightly less than a 320i but you do have 70hp extra so a very unfair comparison.
But this is a strange thread because some are so against the 330e they want to compare it to diesel bmw's.
jason61c said:
we shouldn't MPG these threads, should be PPM based on average electricity costs.
then we can compare to MPG costs and really see whats, what.
My 330e running on 19s is currently 49mpg overall and for petrol costs only as I said. So ppm is straight forward. But why average and not exact, just because some get free charging? The whole purpose of the hybrid is how it fits your personal drive requirements, charging options etc as this thread certainly proves. then we can compare to MPG costs and really see whats, what.
You certainly researched before you bought and prioritised mpg iirc, how is the volvo diesel hybrid doing anyway?
Edited by DragonflyTrumpeter on Sunday 18th December 01:27
ism123 said:
I guess you're doing very well. Interesting to hear other's experiences of their 330e cars.
I only charge mine at work because I have no drive and running the trailing socket out to the car on the front is not for me. I do charge it at work when I can.
So today it was fully charged. I moved it to allow someone else to charge and got in it at 96%/11 miles to go home on the 6 mile commute...
So for me a 27 minute, 6 mile commute uses nearly all the battery when driven in battery only mode. I will add I don't go more than 30mph.
Of course traffic conditions and weather play a part. If you're sat in a stationary queue with heater, lights and wipers going, you'll drain the battery through no fault of your own. Use eco pro though if you want to extend the range a bit, it adapts the throttle response and a/c power usage. Turn a/c off and you might get 10% more.I only charge mine at work because I have no drive and running the trailing socket out to the car on the front is not for me. I do charge it at work when I can.
So today it was fully charged. I moved it to allow someone else to charge and got in it at 96%/11 miles to go home on the 6 mile commute...
So for me a 27 minute, 6 mile commute uses nearly all the battery when driven in battery only mode. I will add I don't go more than 30mph.
Edited by ism123 on Friday 16th December 17:52
So I've had mine now for about 47 hours, and so far I'm pretty impressed. ~200 mile journey back from the dealer, mostly A roads and motorway, averaged 47.7mpg, having started with an almost full and preconditioned battery. It seemed to use the battery quite intelligently and in Eco Pro and Auto eDrive it only charged the battery using the engine when the battery was very low - I didn't keep track of what percentage it would charge to, but maybe 10%. Flicked it into Sport for the last few miles; I'm running it in really gently so was using fairly light throttle but it's obvious this car will be a hoot when you want it to be.
For my commute I've created a route on BMW Routes, putting start and destination as basically the same place, and then dragging the route to include my place of work. In Comfort and Auto eDrive, I got to work with 44% battery remaining, and the journey reports over 11.8 miles I achieved 134.5 mpg with 60% electric driven. I think the fact that I have roughly half battery left is by accident rather than design - it only used ICE when going above 53mph, so I think I agree with others that the routes still don't really make much of a difference to how the battery is used. Maybe if I had a more complex route it would. This is with the pro nav.
Just need to sort out charging at work, and I'll be able to run in all electric hopefully.
For my commute I've created a route on BMW Routes, putting start and destination as basically the same place, and then dragging the route to include my place of work. In Comfort and Auto eDrive, I got to work with 44% battery remaining, and the journey reports over 11.8 miles I achieved 134.5 mpg with 60% electric driven. I think the fact that I have roughly half battery left is by accident rather than design - it only used ICE when going above 53mph, so I think I agree with others that the routes still don't really make much of a difference to how the battery is used. Maybe if I had a more complex route it would. This is with the pro nav.
Just need to sort out charging at work, and I'll be able to run in all electric hopefully.
So I had an email 2 weeks ago from the Lease company telling me they would be able to cancel my order! Admin error, got that sorted then was told early March delivery.
Then on Thursday received an email telling me my new car was 'in stock' and available for delivery 10/01/17. Today all confirmed, delivery on the 10th, got the Reg number everything. Happy Camper! I think they are building them quickly at the moment.
Minor niggle was that I was unable to get the spilt rear seats put in time (requested probably a month ago and was told too late - build slot already allocated) However pleased I left the heated seats on - looking forward to testing them vs air con in terms of battery drain.
Next job is to get a plug socket put on the outside of the house near the drive...
Then on Thursday received an email telling me my new car was 'in stock' and available for delivery 10/01/17. Today all confirmed, delivery on the 10th, got the Reg number everything. Happy Camper! I think they are building them quickly at the moment.
Minor niggle was that I was unable to get the spilt rear seats put in time (requested probably a month ago and was told too late - build slot already allocated) However pleased I left the heated seats on - looking forward to testing them vs air con in terms of battery drain.
Next job is to get a plug socket put on the outside of the house near the drive...
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