iPace-enomics

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JonnyVTEC

3,009 posts

176 months

Tuesday 20th February
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Audimercorbm said:
The upgraded infotainment system. 21 reg on but some 70 Regs too
Most the 70reg will be MY21 with Pivi as production change was around April.

dmsims

6,559 posts

268 months

Wednesday 21st February
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307089...

urquattroGus said:
Enquired about a couple of hi spec 23 plate cars at 40-45k, almost feel like giving up.

Shortlisted three, want to buy one of them, one in particular and they can't even reliably tell me the spec of the car or if they can extend the warranty etc, always say they will get back to you and don't frown

Want to buy one but losing patience.

Not many other EV's for sensible money with decent boot and cabin space for a family whilst having the class of the Jag.

TheDeuce

22,059 posts

67 months

Wednesday 21st February
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urquattroGus said:
Enquired about a couple of hi spec 23 plate cars at 40-45k, almost feel like giving up.

Shortlisted three, want to buy one of them, one in particular and they can't even reliably tell me the spec of the car or if they can extend the warranty etc, always say they will get back to you and don't frown

Want to buy one but losing patience.

Not many other EV's for sensible money with decent boot and cabin space for a family whilst having the class of the Jag.
Just hound them. The JLR dealer network is mostly hopeless...

But as you've already concluded, if you want the best car for your money to enjoy for several years - you're going to need to spend a week or two putting up with JLR-ness to get the right one.

Long term you'll love the iPace and being a Jag driver will make you a stronger and more resilient individual smile


urquattroGus

1,862 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st February
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TheDeuce said:
urquattroGus said:
Enquired about a couple of hi spec 23 plate cars at 40-45k, almost feel like giving up.

Shortlisted three, want to buy one of them, one in particular and they can't even reliably tell me the spec of the car or if they can extend the warranty etc, always say they will get back to you and don't frown

Want to buy one but losing patience.

Not many other EV's for sensible money with decent boot and cabin space for a family whilst having the class of the Jag.
Just hound them. The JLR dealer network is mostly hopeless...

But as you've already concluded, if you want the best car for your money to enjoy for several years - you're going to need to spend a week or two putting up with JLR-ness to get the right one.

Long term you'll love the iPace and being a Jag driver will make you a stronger and more resilient individual smile
Haha, oh dear, that is exactly what it feels like!!!!

It feels like they just wait for whoever hounds them the most.

The ipace will be our family car to run alongside my F Pace SVR so the John Prescott jokes have probably already been made.

Some of the issue is that the best value cars are up north and I can't just walk into the showroom.

With the F Pace my dealer was actually quite good and I negotiated 2k off during the over inflated post covid times by just basically being there are giving them the deposit etc.



TheDeuce

22,059 posts

67 months

Wednesday 21st February
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urquattroGus said:
TheDeuce said:
urquattroGus said:
Enquired about a couple of hi spec 23 plate cars at 40-45k, almost feel like giving up.

Shortlisted three, want to buy one of them, one in particular and they can't even reliably tell me the spec of the car or if they can extend the warranty etc, always say they will get back to you and don't frown

Want to buy one but losing patience.

Not many other EV's for sensible money with decent boot and cabin space for a family whilst having the class of the Jag.
Just hound them. The JLR dealer network is mostly hopeless...

But as you've already concluded, if you want the best car for your money to enjoy for several years - you're going to need to spend a week or two putting up with JLR-ness to get the right one.

Long term you'll love the iPace and being a Jag driver will make you a stronger and more resilient individual smile
Haha, oh dear, that is exactly what it feels like!!!!

It feels like they just wait for whoever hounds them the most.

The ipace will be our family car to run alongside my F Pace SVR so the John Prescott jokes have probably already been made.

Some of the issue is that the best value cars are up north and I can't just walk into the showroom.

With the F Pace my dealer was actually quite good and I negotiated 2k off during the over inflated post covid times by just basically being there are giving them the deposit etc.
There's a lot to be said for being able to visit the dealer in person. If you're interested in a specific car you could speak to your local dealer and ask if they could get the spec of the one up north - they probably can, and they can probably transfer it to their dealership if they're pretty certain you'll buy it if it all checks out in the metal.

Well worth getting it done one way or another, the fpace SVR as a companion car is interesting as I would say putting that alongside an iPace is perhaps the starkest example possible of how much better electrification on a performance SUV is as a powertrain. The difference in handling between the two is astonishing (I've spent a week in an SVR), and real world the iPace is far punchier at sane speeds too. Not to mention the chasm in running costs betwixt an electric motor Vs a 5l supercharged V8.. you'll probably end up reaching for the iPace keys for any journey where you don't need the extra size of the fPace.


urquattroGus

1,862 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st February
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dmsims said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307089...

urquattroGus said:
Enquired about a couple of hi spec 23 plate cars at 40-45k, almost feel like giving up.

Shortlisted three, want to buy one of them, one in particular and they can't even reliably tell me the spec of the car or if they can extend the warranty etc, always say they will get back to you and don't frown

Want to buy one but losing patience.

Not many other EV's for sensible money with decent boot and cabin space for a family whilst having the class of the Jag.
As for that BMW, I’m sure it’s competent, but so ugly and I don’t wish to look like a travelling sales rep.

TheDeuce

22,059 posts

67 months

Wednesday 21st February
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urquattroGus said:
dmsims said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307089...

urquattroGus said:
Enquired about a couple of hi spec 23 plate cars at 40-45k, almost feel like giving up.

Shortlisted three, want to buy one of them, one in particular and they can't even reliably tell me the spec of the car or if they can extend the warranty etc, always say they will get back to you and don't frown

Want to buy one but losing patience.

Not many other EV's for sensible money with decent boot and cabin space for a family whilst having the class of the Jag.
As for that BMW, I’m sure it’s competent, but so ugly and I don’t wish to look like a travelling sales rep.
I have an i4, but the M50 - obviously stupidly powerful and the M50 gets adaptive damping which the car really needs. The e40 is imo underwhelming in terms of power and far too soft for it's weight.

The iPace handles better than the M50 imo. It probably has less on the limit physical grip but blasting down a b road, the Jag feels like it wants to change direction and is the superior drive.

urquattroGus

1,862 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st February
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TheDeuce said:
urquattroGus said:
TheDeuce said:
urquattroGus said:
Enquired about a couple of hi spec 23 plate cars at 40-45k, almost feel like giving up.

Shortlisted three, want to buy one of them, one in particular and they can't even reliably tell me the spec of the car or if they can extend the warranty etc, always say they will get back to you and don't frown

Want to buy one but losing patience.

Not many other EV's for sensible money with decent boot and cabin space for a family whilst having the class of the Jag.
Just hound them. The JLR dealer network is mostly hopeless...

But as you've already concluded, if you want the best car for your money to enjoy for several years - you're going to need to spend a week or two putting up with JLR-ness to get the right one.

Long term you'll love the iPace and being a Jag driver will make you a stronger and more resilient individual smile
Haha, oh dear, that is exactly what it feels like!!!!

It feels like they just wait for whoever hounds them the most.

The ipace will be our family car to run alongside my F Pace SVR so the John Prescott jokes have probably already been made.

Some of the issue is that the best value cars are up north and I can't just walk into the showroom.

With the F Pace my dealer was actually quite good and I negotiated 2k off during the over inflated post covid times by just basically being there are giving them the deposit etc.
There's a lot to be said for being able to visit the dealer in person. If you're interested in a specific car you could speak to your local dealer and ask if they could get the spec of the one up north - they probably can, and they can probably transfer it to their dealership if they're pretty certain you'll buy it if it all checks out in the metal.

Well worth getting it done one way or another, the fpace SVR as a companion car is interesting as I would say putting that alongside an iPace is perhaps the starkest example possible of how much better electrification on a performance SUV is as a powertrain. The difference in handling between the two is astonishing (I've spent a week in an SVR), and real world the iPace is far punchier at sane speeds too. Not to mention the chasm in running costs betwixt an electric motor Vs a 5l supercharged V8.. you'll probably end up reaching for the iPace keys for any journey where you don't need the extra size of the fPace.
The car my wife drives is a V40 hatchback and we have a baby arriving soon, so an I Pace would be a big upgrade.

I'm hoping it also means I offset my V8 running costs and feel happier taking the I Pace on short journeys, at the moment it's rare that I want to take the V40 unless we are parking it somewhere dodgy at which point my wife laughs that suddenly I don't want to take the SVR.

As for driving dynamic, whilst the I pace is good for an EV I can't see any comparison.

The SVR sounds great, much more engaging, has nice steering, and is definitely quicker in a straight line by quite a bit if you are on it. Better brake feel etc.

A couple of times an Ipace has been behind me off a roundabout and as long as I'm trying you would be surprised by the size of the gap.

Ipace is definately a quick car though, especially in the real world.




Edited by urquattroGus on Wednesday 21st February 10:26

dmsims

6,559 posts

268 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Is "the wife" going to be going flat through Craners with a baby onboard ? smile

TheDeuce said:
I have an i4, but the M50 - obviously stupidly powerful and the M50 gets adaptive damping which the car really needs. The e40 is imo underwhelming in terms of power and far too soft for it's weight.

The iPace handles better than the M50 imo. It probably has less on the limit physical grip but blasting down a b road, the Jag feels like it wants to change direction and is the superior drive.

urquattroGus

1,862 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st February
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dmsims said:
Is "the wife" going to be going flat through Craners with a baby onboard ? smile

TheDeuce said:
I have an i4, but the M50 - obviously stupidly powerful and the M50 gets adaptive damping which the car really needs. The e40 is imo underwhelming in terms of power and far too soft for it's weight.

The iPace handles better than the M50 imo. It probably has less on the limit physical grip but blasting down a b road, the Jag feels like it wants to change direction and is the superior drive.
Hopefully!? thumbup

She seems to like gunning the SVR a bit.

Point taken will probably be driving sedately but can still enjoy the drive smile

TheDeuce

22,059 posts

67 months

Wednesday 21st February
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urquattroGus said:
TheDeuce said:
urquattroGus said:
TheDeuce said:
urquattroGus said:
Enquired about a couple of hi spec 23 plate cars at 40-45k, almost feel like giving up.

Shortlisted three, want to buy one of them, one in particular and they can't even reliably tell me the spec of the car or if they can extend the warranty etc, always say they will get back to you and don't frown

Want to buy one but losing patience.

Not many other EV's for sensible money with decent boot and cabin space for a family whilst having the class of the Jag.
Just hound them. The JLR dealer network is mostly hopeless...

But as you've already concluded, if you want the best car for your money to enjoy for several years - you're going to need to spend a week or two putting up with JLR-ness to get the right one.

Long term you'll love the iPace and being a Jag driver will make you a stronger and more resilient individual smile
Haha, oh dear, that is exactly what it feels like!!!!

It feels like they just wait for whoever hounds them the most.

The ipace will be our family car to run alongside my F Pace SVR so the John Prescott jokes have probably already been made.

Some of the issue is that the best value cars are up north and I can't just walk into the showroom.

With the F Pace my dealer was actually quite good and I negotiated 2k off during the over inflated post covid times by just basically being there are giving them the deposit etc.
There's a lot to be said for being able to visit the dealer in person. If you're interested in a specific car you could speak to your local dealer and ask if they could get the spec of the one up north - they probably can, and they can probably transfer it to their dealership if they're pretty certain you'll buy it if it all checks out in the metal.

Well worth getting it done one way or another, the fpace SVR as a companion car is interesting as I would say putting that alongside an iPace is perhaps the starkest example possible of how much better electrification on a performance SUV is as a powertrain. The difference in handling between the two is astonishing (I've spent a week in an SVR), and real world the iPace is far punchier at sane speeds too. Not to mention the chasm in running costs betwixt an electric motor Vs a 5l supercharged V8.. you'll probably end up reaching for the iPace keys for any journey where you don't need the extra size of the fPace.
The car my wife drives is a V40 hatchback and we have a baby arriving soon, so an I Pace would be a big upgrade.

I'm hoping it also means I offset my V8 running costs and feel happier taking the I Pace on short journeys, at the moment it's rare that I want to take the V40 unless we are parking it somewhere dodgy at which point my wife laughs that suddenly I don't want to take the SVR.

As for driving dynamic, whilst the I pace is good for an EV I can't see any comparison.

The SVR sounds great, much more engaging, has nice steering, and is definitely quicker in a straight line by quite a bit if you are on it. Better brake feel etc.

A couple of times an Ipace has been behind me off a roundabout and as long as I'm trying you would be surprised by the size of the gap.

Ipace is definately a quick car though, especially in the real world.




Edited by urquattroGus on Wednesday 21st February 10:26
Come back to the thread once you've had the iPace for a while. You might find more to enjoy dynamically once you're used to it.

CoG has a lot to answer for in any 'performance' SUV comparison.

Can't argue with the soundtrack of brakes though. The SVR is indeed a great drivers car in several ways that matter.

Discombobulate

4,868 posts

187 months

Wednesday 21st February
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urquattroGus said:
The car my wife drives is a V40 hatchback and we have a baby arriving soon, so an I Pace would be a big upgrade.

I'm hoping it also means I offset my V8 running costs and feel happier taking the I Pace on short journeys, at the moment it's rare that I want to take the V40 unless we are parking it somewhere dodgy at which point my wife laughs that suddenly I don't want to take the SVR.

As for driving dynamic, whilst the I pace is good for an EV I can't see any comparison.

The SVR sounds great, much more engaging, has nice steering, and is definitely quicker in a straight line by quite a bit if you are on it. Better brake feel etc.

A couple of times an Ipace has been behind me off a roundabout and as long as I'm trying you would be surprised by the size of the gap.

Ipace is definately a quick car though, especially in the real world.




Edited by urquattroGus on Wednesday 21st February 10:26
Really? My brother has a RRS SVR and can’t keep up with the iPace on a slip road. And, Googling, the iPace looks quicker to 100 than a SVR.

urquattroGus

1,862 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Discombobulate said:
urquattroGus said:
The car my wife drives is a V40 hatchback and we have a baby arriving soon, so an I Pace would be a big upgrade.

I'm hoping it also means I offset my V8 running costs and feel happier taking the I Pace on short journeys, at the moment it's rare that I want to take the V40 unless we are parking it somewhere dodgy at which point my wife laughs that suddenly I don't want to take the SVR.

As for driving dynamic, whilst the I pace is good for an EV I can't see any comparison.

The SVR sounds great, much more engaging, has nice steering, and is definitely quicker in a straight line by quite a bit if you are on it. Better brake feel etc.

A couple of times an Ipace has been behind me off a roundabout and as long as I'm trying you would be surprised by the size of the gap.

Ipace is definately a quick car though, especially in the real world.




Edited by urquattroGus on Wednesday 21st February 10:26
Really? My brother has a RRS SVR and can’t keep up with the iPace on a slip road. And, Googling, the iPace looks quicker to 100 than a SVR.
the RRS is about 400kg heavier than the F Pace? My pre facelift is something like 2050kg. Harry weighed one at about 2000kg in his first review.

haven't googled the times but just real world experience.


Edited by urquattroGus on Wednesday 21st February 15:25

TheRainMaker

6,373 posts

243 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Discombobulate said:
urquattroGus said:
The car my wife drives is a V40 hatchback and we have a baby arriving soon, so an I Pace would be a big upgrade.

I'm hoping it also means I offset my V8 running costs and feel happier taking the I Pace on short journeys, at the moment it's rare that I want to take the V40 unless we are parking it somewhere dodgy at which point my wife laughs that suddenly I don't want to take the SVR.

As for driving dynamic, whilst the I pace is good for an EV I can't see any comparison.

The SVR sounds great, much more engaging, has nice steering, and is definitely quicker in a straight line by quite a bit if you are on it. Better brake feel etc.

A couple of times an Ipace has been behind me off a roundabout and as long as I'm trying you would be surprised by the size of the gap.

Ipace is definately a quick car though, especially in the real world.
Really? My brother has a RRS SVR and can’t keep up with the iPace on a slip road. And, Googling, the iPace looks quicker to 100 than a SVR.
According to Fastest laps.com, the Ipace is over a second slower to 100 mph than a Fpace SVR.



Richtea1970

1,157 posts

61 months

Wednesday 21st February
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urquattroGus said:
A couple of times an Ipace has been behind me off a roundabout and as long as I'm trying you would be surprised by the size of the gap.


Edited by urquattroGus on Wednesday 21st February 10:26
Maybe the iPace driver didn’t realise he/she/they were in a traffic light Grand Prix?

urquattroGus

1,862 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Richtea1970 said:
urquattroGus said:
A couple of times an Ipace has been behind me off a roundabout and as long as I'm trying you would be surprised by the size of the gap.


Edited by urquattroGus on Wednesday 21st February 10:26
Maybe the iPace driver didn’t realise he/she/they were in a traffic light Grand Prix?
Realise, the last time they came shooting right up to my backside and I definitely nailed it after he did. As someone else said 0-100 of the SVR is 8.7 and the ipace 9.9, not a huge difference but noticeable.

I guess I will be able to try it out again soon when I have both cars!!! I know which will sound better too smile

There are plenty of other EV's that I'm sure would obliterate the SVR but it doesn't seem to matter when you're having fun smile




Edited by urquattroGus on Wednesday 21st February 15:43

Discombobulate

4,868 posts

187 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Ah, sorry. Assumed it was a RRS. As my teachers always said, read the question boy!

Deadlysub

512 posts

159 months

Wednesday 21st February
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I love my I Pace but when I want a bit of fun I grab my wife’s Mini Cooper S keys, way slower but more involved.

The I Pace is the perfect daily but I’m going to buy something ICE and manual for the weekend.

TheDeuce

22,059 posts

67 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Deadlysub said:
I love my I Pace but when I want a bit of fun I grab my wife’s Mini Cooper S keys, way slower but more involved.

The I Pace is the perfect daily but I’m going to buy something ICE and manual for the weekend.
Get an early supercharged JC Cooper S convertible - that's the perfect mini imo, it's exactly the sort of ICE I'd expect to ramp up in value after the bans, it's a pretty perfect example of ICE fun smile

W12GT

3,549 posts

222 months

Sunday 25th February
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Anyone else noticed these have suddenly not become so affordable? I need a daily school run/station car but have noticed if I go the pcp route then monthlies have jumped to a starting point of 350ish a month whereas based on the same numbers a month ago they were 200ish - I didn’t take note of the details at the time so assume it’s the residuals hammering the numbers??