iPace-enomics

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dmsims

6,564 posts

268 months

Monday 13th May
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Could you be affected by reduced Pension ?

You could just get a normal electric car and have £18K for the toy fund

nufcfan said:
What am I missing? Clearly avoiding depreciation etc with the lease.

LordGrover

33,553 posts

213 months

Monday 13th May
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I think I've probably just bought one of these.

A very long story short, I've put down the deposit for a 69 plate indus silver HSE.



I'd been looking for MY21 car primarily for PiVI Pro, but on balance I'm happy with what I'm soon to have.

It'll be a little different to my i3 (which has been brilliant), but in a good way. I hope. Fingers crossed.

TheDeuce

22,183 posts

67 months

Monday 13th May
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LordGrover said:
I think I've probably just bought one of these.

A very long story short, I've put down the deposit for a 69 plate indus silver HSE.



I'd been looking for MY21 car primarily for PiVI Pro, but on balance I'm happy with what I'm soon to have.

It'll be a little different to my i3 (which has been brilliant), but in a good way. I hope. Fingers crossed.
That's a huge amount of car and spec for the money, and super low miles too!

Richtea1970

1,157 posts

61 months

Monday 13th May
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Do the used not come with the 2 year warranty anymore? That in its self would put me off buying one, especially a 2019.
Just make sure that it’s had all the software updates and that there are no battery issues.
Because if there are, 6 of the 12 months of warranty, it will be sat in the garage.

But I do have a fairly dim view of JLR now! But when it works it’s a fantastic car.

dmsims

6,564 posts

268 months

Monday 13th May
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Make sure it's had both battery recalls, the heater/aircon works and the windscreen is still bonded properly

LordGrover said:
I think I've probably just bought one of these.

A very long story short, I've put down the deposit for a 69 plate indus silver HSE.

Fingers crossed.

riskyj

338 posts

81 months

Monday 13th May
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What’s the insurance like? On the ‘ev’s…no one wants them’ thread someone said they were getting quotes of about £1800 for an iPace compare to £7/800 for other evs?

LordGrover

33,553 posts

213 months

Monday 13th May
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Admiral is £550 pa. More than the i3 it’s replacing, but not outrageous.

riskyj

338 posts

81 months

Monday 13th May
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Richtea1970 said:
Do the used not come with the 2 year warranty anymore?
Still on according to the website.

G-wiz

2,268 posts

27 months

Monday 13th May
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samoht said:
'68 plate SE, 92k miles, £14k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404238...


There was a black 'S' on 99k miles up for £13,100 for a couple of days, but presumably now sold.
Looks very good in that colour; but you just know you're going to acquaint yourself with the local recovery people.

killysprint

200 posts

167 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Make sure it's had both battery recalls, the heater/aircon works and the windscreen is still bonded properly

This x100000000000.

My wife’s business has 2 early cars

Both have leaked. Our car needed the interior removed, carpet and noise insulation replaced. Bothhave have battery problems early on. Her car needed a number of cells replaced. Our car was off the road for these issues for 16 weeks. Fortunately done under warranty.

The recent battery update and check has triggered a traction battery fault - which requires a battery replacement.

It seems there are a number of cars that this has happened too and as such replacement batteries are now on back order - with no indication from the dealers when they will be available.
But the cars ok to use - but don’t charge past 75% capacity, and make sure you charge outside……

The ipace replacement arrives in a couple of weeks, but it leaves the business with a worthless piece of tat that can’t be sold until the battery replacement is complete.

And at a time when they couldn’t depreciate any faster….

It’s such a shame that the support structure from JLR is terrible. Parts availability is poor from our experience and the dealers don’t have enough trained techs to deal with the number of ipaces with problems to fix them promptly and effectively, again from what we have experienced with the 2 cars we are close to

Its a pity as they drive great, and are a really nice place to sit in and comfortable on a run

But buy at your peril!!!!!…….

JNW1

7,832 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th May
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killysprint said:
Make sure it's had both battery recalls, the heater/aircon works and the windscreen is still bonded properly

This x100000000000.

My wife’s business has 2 early cars

Both have leaked. Our car needed the interior removed, carpet and noise insulation replaced. Bothhave have battery problems early on. Her car needed a number of cells replaced. Our car was off the road for these issues for 16 weeks. Fortunately done under warranty.

The recent battery update and check has triggered a traction battery fault - which requires a battery replacement.

It seems there are a number of cars that this has happened too and as such replacement batteries are now on back order - with no indication from the dealers when they will be available.
But the cars ok to use - but don’t charge past 75% capacity, and make sure you charge outside……

The ipace replacement arrives in a couple of weeks, but it leaves the business with a worthless piece of tat that can’t be sold until the battery replacement is complete.

And at a time when they couldn’t depreciate any faster….

It’s such a shame that the support structure from JLR is terrible. Parts availability is poor from our experience and the dealers don’t have enough trained techs to deal with the number of ipaces with problems to fix them promptly and effectively, again from what we have experienced with the 2 cars we are close to

Its a pity as they drive great, and are a really nice place to sit in and comfortable on a run

But buy at your peril!!!!!…….
Out of interest how old are the two iPaces in question - are they relatively early models? Just trying to gauge whether some of the well known issues are more likely to affect older cars or whether later models are still susceptible to some or all of these problems!


LordGrover

33,553 posts

213 months

Tuesday 14th May
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killysprint said:
Make sure it's had both battery recalls, the heater/aircon works and the windscreen is still bonded properly

This x100000000000.

My wife’s business has 2 early cars

Both have leaked. Our car needed the interior removed, carpet and noise insulation replaced. Bothhave have battery problems early on. Her car needed a number of cells replaced. Our car was off the road for these issues for 16 weeks. Fortunately done under warranty.

The recent battery update and check has triggered a traction battery fault - which requires a battery replacement.

It seems there are a number of cars that this has happened too and as such replacement batteries are now on back order - with no indication from the dealers when they will be available.
But the cars ok to use - but don’t charge past 75% capacity, and make sure you charge outside……

The ipace replacement arrives in a couple of weeks, but it leaves the business with a worthless piece of tat that can’t be sold until the battery replacement is complete.

And at a time when they couldn’t depreciate any faster….

It’s such a shame that the support structure from JLR is terrible. Parts availability is poor from our experience and the dealers don’t have enough trained techs to deal with the number of ipaces with problems to fix them promptly and effectively, again from what we have experienced with the 2 cars we are close to

Its a pity as they drive great, and are a really nice place to sit in and comfortable on a run

But buy at your peril!!!!!…….
I've seen you post this many times over, here and I-Pace forum - we heard you the first time.

FTR, amongst the many cars I've owned I've had a TVR Griffith, a couple of Porsches and a fiat so I know all about pain, big bills and long stays in the works.

killysprint

200 posts

167 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Are you the forum police?

Judging by the number of posts you have made, 33000 and counting, (that’s 156 a month on pistonheads alone) you have an opinion on everything, that frankly no one cares about, and you spent your days on forums as you have don’t have a life.

And look at you, you’ve had a TVR and a Porsche. *edit* playing the Porsche card with a couple of boxsters……..??????????????

I suggest you step away from the keyboard, keep your opinions to yourself and go and do something else.

I want to make as many people away of the issues with these car and the potential pitfalls, and the inability of JLR to supply parts to fix the problems in a timely manner.


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killysprint

200 posts

167 months

Tuesday 14th May
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And to answer the polite question on the age of the cars.

One is a mid 19 registered car obviously on a 19 plate, the other a September 19, 69 plate both with under 40,000 miles .

And very little DC fast charging use.

Richtea1970

1,157 posts

61 months

Tuesday 14th May
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killysprint said:
Make sure it's had both battery recalls, the heater/aircon works and the windscreen is still bonded properly

This x100000000000.

My wife’s business has 2 early cars

Both have leaked. Our car needed the interior removed, carpet and noise insulation replaced. Bothhave have battery problems early on. Her car needed a number of cells replaced. Our car was off the road for these issues for 16 weeks. Fortunately done under warranty.

The recent battery update and check has triggered a traction battery fault - which requires a battery replacement.

It seems there are a number of cars that this has happened too and as such replacement batteries are now on back order - with no indication from the dealers when they will be available.
But the cars ok to use - but don’t charge past 75% capacity, and make sure you charge outside……

The ipace replacement arrives in a couple of weeks, but it leaves the business with a worthless piece of tat that can’t be sold until the battery replacement is complete.

And at a time when they couldn’t depreciate any faster….

It’s such a shame that the support structure from JLR is terrible. Parts availability is poor from our experience and the dealers don’t have enough trained techs to deal with the number of ipaces with problems to fix them promptly and effectively, again from what we have experienced with the 2 cars we are close to

Its a pity as they drive great, and are a really nice place to sit in and comfortable on a run

But buy at your peril!!!!!…….
I also have a 2019 car and my experience is exactly as above.
Mine is now back having been repaired and it is shortly going up for sale for the above reasons.

giggity

855 posts

162 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Go for a 70 Plate (usually Nov onwards). It gets you a MY21 - with a single battery setup, no windscreen bonding issue, the later infotainment system and for the most part the kinks ironed out and faster charging (these are usually advertised as 11Kw or the images will show the updated navigation system.

I would say only consider one with full (and on time Jaguar service history) and get the extended warranty added (following an inspection)

dmsims

6,564 posts

268 months

Wednesday 15th May
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For the Jaguar warranty (which is now 4 figures for older cars) you have no choice but to have a car with full service history as they will refuse otherwise

giggity said:
I would say only consider one with full (and on time Jaguar service history) and get the extended warranty added (following an inspection)

JNW1

7,832 posts

195 months

Wednesday 15th May
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giggity said:
Go for a 70 Plate (usually Nov onwards). It gets you a MY21 - with a single battery setup, no windscreen bonding issue, the later infotainment system and for the most part the kinks ironed out and faster charging (these are usually advertised as 11Kw or the images will show the updated navigation system.

I would say only consider one with full (and on time Jaguar service history) and get the extended warranty added (following an inspection)
Thanks - sounds like you need to do lots of due diligence if you're buying an earlier car but a MY21 car (or newer) is a safer choice if funds allow. But of course that bigger budget will no doubt then bring other second-hand EV's into the mix...

raspy

1,553 posts

95 months

Wednesday 15th May
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I'm sure there are many people with an iPace that have had no trouble, but looking at WhatCar reliability survey 2023, the ipace doesn't rank very highly within the electric SUV category.

"A sizeable 42% of Jaguar I-Pace owners reported problems in a wide range of areas that were slow to be fixed.

More than half (58%) of cars were out of action for more than a week, 35% of them having been rendered undriveable.

Jaguar covered the cost of 98% of repairs, but the remainder of owners faced bills of more than £1500."

"Our annual Reliability Survey, conducted in association with MotorEasy, polls thousands of drivers on the dependability of their car. Our latest survey gathered more than 21,000 responses, allowing us to gather data on 178 models (up to five years old) across 32 brands.

Drivers were asked about any faults their car had suffered in the past two years. We also asked how much the issue cost to repair and how long the car spent in the workshop. We then used all of this data to create a unique reliability rating for each car."

https://www.whatcar.com/news/reliability-survey-mo...

Discombobulate

4,869 posts

187 months

Wednesday 15th May
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20k and 2 years and mine has been superb (kiss of death wink...)

Unlike the two Audis I had before - RS6 and 4. I stupidly ordered the RS4 with DRC too. Between them the 2 cars had 10 DRC valves and six new dampers over 90K miles.

Perhaps I have been unlucky with the Audis, and lucky with the iPace, but very happy with mine so far.

I would avoid early iPaces due to poor in-car tech, windscreens and battery issues. But still great cars. Only the Taycan beats them as a place to sit / handling etc.

Edited by Discombobulate on Wednesday 15th May 21:54