Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol 3)

Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol 3)

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TomScrut

2,547 posts

90 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Jonno02 said:
I just think people are trying to force Golf R's. The deals are bad and until VW see a sheer drop in orders, the prices will stay bad.
As in the customers are wanting them because they are expecting good deals, rather than VW trying to force them (which is why the deals were good before)?

Jonno02

2,248 posts

111 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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TomScrut said:
As in the customers are wanting them because they are expecting good deals, rather than VW trying to force them (which is why the deals were good before)?
We've been spoiled with the previous golf R deals - and now people have a taste of how good the golf R is, many people want the new one. But the deals are just...not there right now, but I think a lot of people want to think a current deal is still pretty good (because it may be the best of a bad bunch), so they get back into the car. That being said, each car is worth a different monthly payment to each person.

wemorgan

3,579 posts

180 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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The current PCP deals on M140/240 look better value than the PCH Golf R deals I've seen so far.

furtive

4,498 posts

281 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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RRLover said:
WOW - 8K Deposit
Trade-in on my current car

TomScrut

2,547 posts

90 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Jonno02 said:
We've been spoiled with the previous golf R deals - and now people have a taste of how good the golf R is, many people want the new one. But the deals are just...not there right now, but I think a lot of people want to think a current deal is still pretty good (because it may be the best of a bad bunch), so they get back into the car. That being said, each car is worth a different monthly payment to each person.
I agree, I have one at the moment but the current deals aren't worth it. I have an S5 on the way as it was the best price/spec/performance I could find. The R ans S3 weren't a lot cheaper, smaller and less spec.

Jonno02

2,248 posts

111 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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TomScrut said:
I agree, I have one at the moment but the current deals aren't worth it. I have an S5 on the way as it was the best price/spec/performance I could find. The R ans S3 weren't a lot cheaper, smaller and less spec.
Agreed, seen a lot of chatter about the S5 deals. I love my VAG cars, but as wemorgan said, the PCP deals on the hot BMW's that have been pointed out are extremely nice and I'd be looking at them if I was switching soon.

TomScrut

2,547 posts

90 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Jonno02 said:
Agreed, seen a lot of chatter about the S5 deals. I love my VAG cars, but as wemorgan said, the PCP deals on the hot BMW's that have been pointed out are extremely nice and I'd be looking at them if I was switching soon.
Yeah I would have considered them too, I like 4WD really though and not keen on BMW interiors. I also like the extra boot space the S5 offers vs the Golf.

ollie05

697 posts

222 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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wemorgan said:
The current PCP deals on M140/240 look better value than the PCH Golf R deals I've seen so far.
Good cars and mint engine I just cant bear the standard alloys, and obviously no point in paying around 4k last time I checked to get the m sport alloys on a car that will be handed back in 2 years.

Also fancied the 340I because of the engine, but nothing about on them either that I could see...

maccas99

1,713 posts

190 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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The S5 deals are back via Central - https://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/...

and Vehiclesavers have a list of pre-facelift Golf R's which I've attached... For a 5dr DSG and Metallic paint on a 3+23 it's coming out at about £330/month.


furtive

4,498 posts

281 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Where did you get that VehicleSavers list from?

TomScrut

2,547 posts

90 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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maccas99 said:
The S5 deals are back via Central - https://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/...
Works out at £11741.77, minus the £440 VED increase gets us to £11301.77 which is only around £100 more than the November pricing which is good.

I deleted the extra VED merely for comparing to the November prices so we could tell if the deal itself was comparable.

This is all assuming they aren't cancelled orders that are already built/in build? I doubt that will be the case though.

They also have the S4 Saloon here for a bit more money:

https://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/...

But why you would get that instead of the S5 I have no idea, the S5 is more practical with the hatchback boot, and the S4 has some nasty (in design, not being a snob about wheel sizes) 18" wheels vs the S5s 19"

Edited by TomScrut on Monday 6th March 12:27

clarkeysntfc

67 posts

91 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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wemorgan said:
The current PCP deals on M140/240 look better value than the PCH Golf R deals I've seen so far.
Don't forget that M140's don't come with cruise control as standard - you need to tick the "comfort pack" option. Another thing to look out for when leasing.

pespro

108 posts

118 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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TomScrut said:
Works out at £11741.77, minus the £440 VED increase gets us to £11301.77 which is only around £100 more than the November pricing which is good.

I deleted the extra VED merely for comparing to the November prices so we could tell if the deal itself was comparable.

This is all assuming they aren't cancelled orders that are already built/in build? I doubt that will be the case though.

Edited by TomScrut on Monday 6th March 12:27
Just a warning for people regarding S5.
Mine was due build start on 1st May.
Came forward two weeks to 17th April but today has been pushed back a month to 15th May.
Mine was supposed to be a March delivery car, but was delayed until May Delivery, so customer cancelled. No chance of getting it in May if its not being built until 15h. Maybe my car will be eternally delayed and i'm just unlucky.

TomScrut

2,547 posts

90 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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clarkeysntfc said:
Don't forget that M140's don't come with cruise control as standard - you need to tick the "comfort pack" option. Another thing to look out for when leasing.
Yeah its often better to pay a bit more for the higher standard spec car than get the cheap base price car and add extras. Not applicable in this case as the M140 is the best spec you can get "as standard" on a 1 series but may be useful to somebody browsing.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

207 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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furtive said:
RRLover said:
WOW - 8K Deposit
Trade-in on my current car
Sell yours to WBAC and get a cheaper lease.

Burwood

18,709 posts

248 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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furtive said:
ollie05 said:
not quite a best lease car deal, but for reference this is what I had from my local dealer on a 2 year lease VW Golf R (310), 5dr, DSG, standard spec;

8k per year
Initial - £1583.31
23x 527.77

£13722 total for 2 years, not including maintenance. So I work that out @ over £570 per month amortised!..

Bargain, may order 2 smile
Hmm, my dealer has only offered me a PCP deal. I'll have to ask about lease deals. The PCP deal I have is:

£8k deposit
£1k VW contribution
35 x £284.93
£15637 balloon
APR 4.9%

I've no idea how to compare this to lease deal!
I would suggest you compare cashflow to cashflow. There won't be any equity in this deal at the end of the term. I make that £18k to PCP the car. Whats the current lease assuming the same term. I would suggest about 12k. Added, no VED on the lease.

Pablo16v

2,110 posts

199 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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hornetrider said:
furtive said:
RRLover said:
WOW - 8K Deposit
Trade-in on my current car
Sell yours to WBAC and get a cheaper lease.
That's what I did although I used We Want Any Car not WBAC.

furtive

4,498 posts

281 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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hornetrider said:
Sell yours to WBAC and get a cheaper lease.
That is with me selling privately/via WBAC

hornetrider

63,161 posts

207 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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furtive said:
hornetrider said:
Sell yours to WBAC and get a cheaper lease.
That is with me selling privately/via WBAC
OK lets revisit.

furtive said:
ollie05 said:
not quite a best lease car deal, but for reference this is what I had from my local dealer on a 2 year lease VW Golf R (310), 5dr, DSG, standard spec;

8k per year
Initial - £1583.31
23x 527.77

£13722 total for 2 years, not including maintenance. So I work that out @ over £570 per month amortised!..

Bargain, may order 2 smile
Hmm, my dealer has only offered me a PCP deal. I'll have to ask about lease deals. The PCP deal I have is:

£8k deposit
£1k VW contribution
35 x £284.93
£15637 balloon
APR 4.9%

I've no idea how to compare this to lease deal!
Simple.

Your cost is 17940 for 3 years.

The horrendously expensive lease above is 13722 for 2 years.

Shop around for some lease prices at about 25% of RRP, which would be about 8kish for 2 years on a 30k or so.

Accelebrate

5,252 posts

217 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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furtive said:
Where did you get that VehicleSavers list from?
I got the same list from another broker at the end of last week. It's a list of cancelled orders sat in a couple of dealerships.
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