Air leak issue?

Air leak issue?

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leeshell

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278 posts

201 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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Hi all, I am currently over fuelling which results in performance loss when accelerating sometimes.

When my inlet manifold blew up, I had this replaced, along with a faulty lamda sensor and a faulty temp sender. I then reset the adaptive map and I could see both lamdas working in unison and the hunting disappeared. All I'm left with is this performance issue.

My mechanic installed the new Bosch fuel pump (with upgraded loom) and replaced the fuel filter and he can still see over fuelling which suggests an air leak somewhere. The seating of the inlet manifold has been checked (three times using various methods and nothing of note).

I am hoping someone could shed light or point me to the info for the following:

Explanation or diagram of vacuum pipe layout.

Should there be a pipe attached to the fuel rail regulator?

Explanation or diagram describing sensors attached to the inlet manifold, which pipes go to which sensor and which sensor is which.

Many thanks for reading and for any replies. cry

EFA

Edited by leeshell on Monday 28th July 12:53

Adrian W

13,926 posts

229 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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how do you know it's over fueling? if so is it on all the cylinders?

leeshell

Original Poster:

278 posts

201 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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I have had compression tests performed on all cylinders and they are all within 5%.

The symptom is when you put your foot down (slow or quick) sometimes it dies and slows down then picks up.

My mechanic has inspected the fuel pump and says it is over fuelling. He had been talking to Trevor until he left the country.

But if you have another idea, it would be welcomed clap

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

216 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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Is it just a momentary hesitation?

leeshell

Original Poster:

278 posts

201 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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NobleGuy said:
Is it just a momentary hesitation?
Yes, just a whole second

Adrian W

13,926 posts

229 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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does it do it when you stamp on it or when you do it gently as well?

gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

237 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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i suggest you get it rolling roaded and check the fuelling in real time

where are you based in the country ?

leeshell

Original Poster:

278 posts

201 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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Adrian W said:
does it do it when you stamp on it or when you do it gently as well?
Both

It occurs whether I boot it or gently accelerate, but not always, say one out of three times it's fine.

(SP)

Edited by leeshell on Monday 28th July 18:10

leeshell

Original Poster:

278 posts

201 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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gadgeroonie said:
i suggest you get it rolling roaded and check the fuelling in real time

where are you based in the country ?
I am based in Taunton - South West, I do have access to RR in Plymouth.
What would a RR show please?

I have been a passenger with laptop driven down the road and not seen anything untoward.

mgbond

6,749 posts

233 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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leeshell said:
gadgeroonie said:
i suggest you get it rolling roaded and check the fuelling in real time

where are you based in the country ?


I am based in Taunton - South West, I do have access to RR in Plymouth.
What would a RR show please?

I have been a passenger with laptop driven down the road and not seen anything untoward.


RR will show the AFR's over the rev range, no good with just a Laptop unless you have a wideband in the Exhaust system someware.

Bondy

mgbond

6,749 posts

233 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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leeshell said:
gadgeroonie said:
i suggest you get it rolling roaded and check the fuelling in real time

where are you based in the country ?


I am based in Taunton - South West, I do have access to RR in Plymouth.
What would a RR show please?

I have been a passenger with laptop driven down the road and not seen anything untoward.


RR will show the AFR's over the rev range, no good with just a Laptop unless you have a wideband in the Exhaust system someware.

Bondy

saucyboy

1,865 posts

230 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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Pants, did you say Trevor is out of the country? I've just sent him an email asking for advice re my car running rich. Any idea's when he's back??

Had my lamdas checked at the weekend and they were fine. Adaptive map showed the car was taking more fuel from the front bank than the rear.

James

gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

237 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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this RR is in Plymouth, they have done a few nobles and are very experienced

http://enginetuner.co.uk/

leeshell

Original Poster:

278 posts

201 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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Sorry I don't know when he's back. I believe he's hot testing.

Give Dave Jones a ring.... http://www.roush.co.uk/partsVehicleSales.htm

Fxwhisper

20 posts

191 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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Have you tried new plugs and gapped them up properly? I find 30thou the best on a 3r, any more and it can hesitate.

leeshell

Original Poster:

278 posts

201 months

Monday 28th July 2008
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Thanks, I'll pass on the RR and new plugs to the garage...

I'll post back

Anyone ideas on vacuum pipes etc (see op)

Adrian W

13,926 posts

229 months

Tuesday 29th July 2008
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leeshell said:
Sorry I don't know when he's back. I believe he's hot testing.

Give Dave Jones a ring.... http://www.roush.co.uk/partsVehicleSales.htm
no don't Trevor is on holiday this week, back next week

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

216 months

Tuesday 29th July 2008
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Fxwhisper said:
Have you tried new plugs and gapped them up properly? I find 30thou the best on a 3r, any more and it can hesitate.
A few people have had hesitations and they almost always trace back to coil/HT/plugs.

chillidog

1,021 posts

236 months

Tuesday 29th July 2008
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NobleGuy said:
Fxwhisper said:
Have you tried new plugs and gapped them up properly? I find 30thou the best on a 3r, any more and it can hesitate.
A few people have had hesitations and they almost always trace back to coil/HT/plugs.
Actually diagnosing these faults can be a right PITA ... my last one required a new wiring loom which I was damn lucky to get FOC as they're 1400 quid - eek

Maybe we need to discuss and agree a "how to diagnose you're misfire" on a seperate thread and then stick it on the Wiki?

Anyone want to get the thread started?
ps. I'm only the driver wink
--
Richard

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

216 months

Tuesday 29th July 2008
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chillidog said:
...my last one required a new wiring loom which I was damn lucky to get FOC as they're 1400 quid - eek
yikes