It's an engine out job..

It's an engine out job..

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obes

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Thursday 1st June 2006
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Well we couldn't hunt down the rattle in the top end so it looks like we need to dig a little deeper cry
never mind, didn't have anything to do at the weekend anyway !!

cams looking pretty good


EDITED TO ADD
These were the symptoms..
Engine ran fine at idle and up to around 3,000rpm
above 3,000 rpm there was a serious metallic rattle.

the cause

Low oil level caused by leak on rear bank turbo.

diagnosis

Knackered big end (and little end!) bearings.

repair

Engine out and rebuilt

Edited by obes on Tuesday 17th October 21:17

obes

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Friday 2nd June 2006
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adrian w said:
what sort or rattle?


A knackered chain tensioner type of rattle

obes

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Sunday 4th June 2006
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Heres the latest !

IC box off and various bits stripped out..


First we accidentally discovered the cat was loose !! ....

so heres matt de-catting !


the offending item... interestingly enough, a metal cat, not a ceramic one.


Soon had it re-welded and back on


Turbo showing a bit of play, but pretty much OK
exhaust side

intake side


And here's the rattle. two stretched chains and the right hand tensioner not tensioning.


O.

obes

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Monday 5th June 2006
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Even more interesting is that it doesn't seem to matter whose tool or how big it is, it's always Matt with his hands on it , the tart !

obes

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Monday 3rd July 2006
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Found a fair amount of ground up metal in the sump yesterday

defo looking like a new engine for me

should have bought a a CSL.........
.......then again, I don't want to change jobs to estate agent

obes

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Monday 3rd July 2006
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Going 2.5 to 3 is pretty simple. Needs new brackets and a few bits and bobs.....
...and a 6 speed box & M400 linkage....and some T28's instead of T25's.....and an MBE ECU and Loom. Gulp. not that simple after all !

of course there's always the lightweight and lots of room for cooling 4 cyl option(s)..

obes

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Monday 3rd July 2006
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ahaughton said:
Nice big Audi engine in there then Owen?


This might just squeeze in Adrian

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-S4-ENGINE-

this definitely will

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Zetec-2-1-

and with a bit of messing about...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COSWORTH-OPEL-V

I think i'll be going for the 3.0 duratec tho !

obes

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Sunday 9th July 2006
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Well, with the clam relocated to make a bit more room in the garage...


The engine's just about ready to lift !

obes

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Monday 10th July 2006
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It'll have 6 cylinders and be forced aspirated.
details still being worked on !!

obes

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Monday 17th July 2006
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Progress Report!!
Well, it's out !

.
Engine bay looks positively huge !!


.
Further inspection around the sump and windage tray revealed some worrying bits of engine


.
With the sump off and the engine turned up on its front we found the bearings all spun! Crap in the sump is all bits of big end!


moral of the story, keep checking your oil !!!!!

obes

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Monday 17th July 2006
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Same engine with a few 'specialist' internals

obes

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Monday 17th July 2006
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oh, and here's the new exhaust !

for the noble, not the minimoto !!
now if I can just remember how it goes together

obes

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Tuesday 18th July 2006
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um, it will fit anything mate. It's not a kit or anything.
They're just stock tubes, silencers and tail pipes. Going to custom make it

obes

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Wednesday 19th July 2006
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I'll have know that i will be holding and passing all the tools myself

obes

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Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Yep, maybe one day i'll let him out of the garage.

obes

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Friday 28th July 2006
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Turbo's are over at turbo technics for an overhaul. Should get those back tomorrow. £390 for the pair with new bearings and seals. One of them was leaking quite badly, the other wasn't bad but it's daft not to renew them both while they're out. Interestingly enough, it was the rear one that was in worse condition, even though the front one gets considerably more cooked !

I looked onto getting some cast manifolds made but it's a fair bit pricey for a short run so they will be be re-welded and strengthened.

New crank, trick rods and all new bearings on the bench ready. New head set on it's way. Also have new shrouded turbo oil feeds and new gear change cables. Also a new clutch.
New exhaust system parts also ready to go. Will probably make both the cats and silencers bolt in/out
Designing up some shorter solid intake pipes too.

Have been thinking about water/air chargecooling, using a small chargecooler on each turbo exit. Real advantage is that you get loads of air lenghth and volume out of the intake. Should give a big improvement to throttle response. Also allows for a small boot where the intercooler used to be. Pretty sure this'll have to wait for another day though as I just need it back on the road ASAP !!

Oil cooler and pipework ordered. I'm going to be making some Cundyesque modifications to the side pods and mounting the cooler there. Am also running some extra ducting from the front of the car to the front turbo.

Lots of wiring to do too. The old loom is looking a bit shabby, so i'll be soldering like a mad man most of the weekend. Will probably move the battery and the ecu into the cabin.

Plumbed in fire extinguisher also going in.

Nitrons and dymags orders imminent and then there's just the airjacks ......

obes

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Friday 28th July 2006
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Shhh, it's a secret

obes

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Sunday 20th August 2006
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Thought i'd post an update !!

The turbo's are back from Turbo Technics with new bearings and seals..


and i've put some ducting from the front scoops to the brakes and up the tunnel.
(i'll sort something put for the Hvac ones I took out later !!)



The extinguisher's in too.


(modded the rails so Haze can reach the pedals while the seat's out !!!)

Made a couple of brackets to hold the Defi display and Control Unit



Nearly there !! thumbup

obes

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Monday 21st August 2006
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rich 36 said:
looks good, what did you install extinguisher-wise

foam/powder/capacity


It's a lifeline 2.25ltr foam (electric)

obes

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Monday 21st August 2006
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mr noble said:


Are you hoping to get the engine back before next weekend? 3 day install?

G


Am hoping mate yes