Discussion
Rider007 said:
However designs Teslas should be shot.They all look the same, just fattend,shortend,stretched,heightend. Bit like americans in general. Need to get european designers on board to give them some flair.
Have you seen the offerings from BMW and Audi lately?It's basically a case of pick the height and number of doors, then they stretch the same shape to suit.
Heres Johnny said:
I think the profile of the S looks the best, but there’s little to no detail anywhere, no subtle detail in comparison. I think the same about the interior, just take a look at how plain a MS door card is, how the speaker grill is cheap even in the upgraded hifi. Some love the simple form, but it’s light on detail and finesse,
I'd say all the cars are light on finesse, they just approach is from a different direction as it were. The German cars are so covered in creases and vents and huge corporate grills that they've become parodies of themselves; the Model-S is just very simple. I'd love to see someone, anyone, produce a modern car with beautiful subtle detailing but I'm not holding my breath and whilst I don't have that choice I'd rather have simple and understated than a car which looks like it's about to try and eat the car in front.
kambites said:
LG9k said:
In fact, I'd say making cars as Mercedes and BMW have done, with low drag, and retaining some sense of style is much more impressive, especially given they have to fit a big old engine up front.
You really find the S-class and 7-series more stylish than the Model-S? Each to their own I guess. The Model-X (and now Model-Y) are pretty terrible looking but to my eyes they're no worse looking than the GLC, X6, X4, etc. which don't even have the excuse of being remotely aerodynamic.
I'm not particularly a fan of Tesla but the amount of criticism their styling gets always seems odd to me.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 15th March 12:54
I think the S is nice enough on the outside, if a little wide, but the interior doesn’t come close to a 7 or S class, imo.
I test drove a Model S and was expecting a woefully American interior from what I'd read. I was pleasantly surprised at how well it compared to my 63-plate A7.
What did disappoint was the wonky panels and gaps around the exterior, and the quality of finish on the welds and edges. You didn't see them at first glance, but any closer look at the car shows an *interesting* approach to tolerances.
What did disappoint was the wonky panels and gaps around the exterior, and the quality of finish on the welds and edges. You didn't see them at first glance, but any closer look at the car shows an *interesting* approach to tolerances.
gangzoom said:
£4900 is what I paid for FSD, so £400 more than AP at time of order.
AP is not worth £4500, not even the £2000 on the current 'reduced' price, £1k is what Tesla should be charging for it max. But I like tech and always find it hard to resist new things even though I should.
100% will not be ordering AP or FSD on wifes Model Y order if we end up going that way. I still hope to see something good from Lexus though.
I'd thought AP & FSD is an option taken up more in the USA, than we;d choice here, as they seem lazy with their driving!AP is not worth £4500, not even the £2000 on the current 'reduced' price, £1k is what Tesla should be charging for it max. But I like tech and always find it hard to resist new things even though I should.
100% will not be ordering AP or FSD on wifes Model Y order if we end up going that way. I still hope to see something good from Lexus though.
I'd like to keep control over the car myself, its one thing to lose gear changes, another to let the car drive itself, of course distance to the car in front, and accident avoidance systems are welcome to make things extra safe. The Tesla system is clever in the way it identifies vehicles around the car.
I have cruise control on my car, and still don't even use that lol
SpikeBmth said:
I'd thought AP & FSD is an option taken up more in the USA, than we;d choice here, as they seem lazy with their driving!
I'd like to keep control over the car myself, its one thing to lose gear changes, another to let the car drive itself, of course distance to the car in front, and accident avoidance systems are welcome to make things extra safe. The Tesla system is clever in the way it identifies vehicles around the car.
I have cruise control on my car, and still don't even use that lol
So I've just done the first Mway drive with AP since the 9.0 software update. I have to say I take back what I said about what just normal AP can do.I'd like to keep control over the car myself, its one thing to lose gear changes, another to let the car drive itself, of course distance to the car in front, and accident avoidance systems are welcome to make things extra safe. The Tesla system is clever in the way it identifies vehicles around the car.
I have cruise control on my car, and still don't even use that lol
160 miles on busy UK motorways, Friday M6 traffic, roadworks, rain, wind, 3hr 15min on the road.
I reckon if 'allowed' the car could have done 90% of the drive with no input from me. The additional 'vision' the car has of nearby lanes/traffic si great, and AP is very good at changing lane, it even doesn't undertake other cars in the right hand lane!!
Shame Tesla had to enable 'naggs' every few minutes. Also cannot wait for 'nav on Autopilot' to come to the UK.
Compared to the original AP I tried in 2015 things have really improved!!
After waiting ages for the Model Y launch, we don't even get to see it from the rear. I mean, is it even a hatchback? The Model 3 couldn't be built that way as the glass roof ate into the hatch hinge area too much. That's more important to me than how much the extra gizmos may or may not cost!
I agree with others on this thread: the fat Model 3 look doesn't do it for me.
I agree with others on this thread: the fat Model 3 look doesn't do it for me.
Europa Jon said:
After waiting ages for the Model Y launch, we don't even get to see it from the rear. I mean, is it even a hatchback? The Model 3 couldn't be built that way as the glass roof ate into the hatch hinge area too much. That's more important to me than how much the extra gizmos may or may not cost!
I agree with others on this thread: the fat Model 3 look doesn't do it for me.
Yes its a (powered) hatchback, there is a press pack, video etc from all angles I agree with others on this thread: the fat Model 3 look doesn't do it for me.
As for the extra gizmos, the same as the 3, the configuration is open and you can spec one yourself.
Personally I am not yet seeing enough for me to choose one over the 3
Heres Johnny said:
Still from a guy in the second row of seating looking back to the 3rd row, headroom was tight for him even in the second row, and he comments there’s no way an adult can realistically sit 8n the 3rd row. Not a great vote for the space
It's pretty rare even for full sized (in the European sense) SUVs to have third-row seats which are usable for adults, let alone relatively compact ones like this. kambites said:
Heres Johnny said:
Still from a guy in the second row of seating looking back to the 3rd row, headroom was tight for him even in the second row, and he comments there’s no way an adult can realistically sit 8n the 3rd row. Not a great vote for the space
It's pretty rare even for full sized (in the European sense) SUVs to have third-row seats which are usable for adults, let alone relatively compact ones like this. Heres Johnny said:
Oh I don’t doubt that, it’s more a reflection Tesla had 6 adults get out 5he car and it was a false representation of what’s poss8ble, plus the 2nd row is tight on its own accord. It might not be that roomy at all, fine for a young family but that’s prob about all
7.And theres been several 6ft plus people in the back mid row with plenty of headroom.
RobDickinson said:
Heres Johnny said:
Oh I don’t doubt that, it’s more a reflection Tesla had 6 adults get out 5he car and it was a false representation of what’s poss8ble, plus the 2nd row is tight on its own accord. It might not be that roomy at all, fine for a young family but that’s prob about all
7.And theres been several 6ft plus people in the back mid row with plenty of headroom.
Heres Johnny said:
Oh I don’t doubt that, it’s more a reflection Tesla had 6 adults get out 5he car and it was a false representation of what’s poss8ble, plus the 2nd row is tight on its own accord. It might not be that roomy at all, fine for a young family but that’s prob about all
Tesla aren't the only ones. About 10 years ago I bought a Toyota IQ as my 'town car'. Great little car, I really liked it. But the advert at the time showed 4 full sized adults getting out of the car. In reality, the only way to get 2 adults in the back was to chop their legs off! B17NNS said:
What is it actually meant to be though? Is it just a hatchback or is meant to be something akin to the Lexus UX, C4 Cactus, CX-3? You know something that kinda looks a bit bulky, a bit SUV-ish in photos but in real life are hatchbacks with a mildly higher seating position?If it's the latter ... Then hot cakes. Everyone likes that style. Even though they're tiny inside! Like reverse TARDIS's.
Otispunkmeyer said:
You know something that kinda looks a bit bulky, a bit SUV-ish in photos but in real life are hatchbacks with a mildly higher seating position?
If it's the latter ... Then hot cakes. Everyone likes that style. Even though they're tiny inside! Like reverse TARDIS's.
Its that really, its pretty roomy inside for the class I suspect though.If it's the latter ... Then hot cakes. Everyone likes that style. Even though they're tiny inside! Like reverse TARDIS's.
Its aiming for this huge market
Gassing Station | Tesla | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff