Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)

[BlackStang5point0]

@D.S.

You are entitled to your opinion of course but more than once you have used somewhat emotive terms like 'prices tumbling' which is maybe somewhat antagonistic. No..?? Especially considering what is happening across the whole of the UK used car market and who knows how the release of the Gen 2 will affect values as that's anyone's guess.

I also cannot recall seeing any members stating an expectation that an early 2021 GR will be worth near original MRP come the summer. Of course it would be nice but highly unlikely I think we can all agree. Just a final point but taking the piss out of a members previous car history is also a bit uncalled for imo but let's just leave that there.

I'll end by saying I hope you find a GR at a price point in the future that you are happy with and then you can enjoy what is undoubtedly a fantastic little car.

[djc206]

D.S. said:

djc206 said:

It’s like walking into your local and seeing *that* guy at the end of the bar.

When I owned mine I found this thread quite useful, please don’t spoil it for others.

Are you a mod?

No, I’m politely asking you not to spoil what has always been an excellent source of information for owners and prospective buyers. You’ve clogged up a couple of pages now, many people who also find this thread useful have politely asked you to stop, time to read the room don’t you think?

[BIRMA]

D.S. said:

Unreal said:

Stop feeding the troll.

Haha quite. But lets see what happens to the market then shall we. I bet I'm right and by the summer the £20k GRY will be with us.

Your comments prompted me to check out current Autotrader prices. Last August I had a test drive in a GR Yaris and I was impressed.
I had a strict budget of £30K as I had other things more important to me on the boil that were coming up for sale at the time, so £30K was my budget and I wanted a car with about 10K miles not tracked, full service history and as good as new. I was lucky I managed to get a car for slightly less than my £30K budget privately but with slightly higher mileage than my target at 12K miles it was the colour I wanted (red) and was like a brand new car. Something that was confirmed to me when it went in to get serviced recently.

Looking today at what you can get for £30K doesn't really come as any surprise as there are quite a few cars under 10K miles for that sum, when I was looking there weren't that many.

Good luck with your attempt to get one for £20K, but for me it raises a couple of points that dawned on me when pursuing the car I wanted, perhaps they are not that important to you.
That is that as time passes the chances of finding a non tracked or pranged, low mileage, properly serviced car diminishes.

[ferrisbueller]

My saved search currently shows 4 circuit packs sub 10k miles, sub £30k. The cheapest is £29495.

[bencollins4]

Sorry to break it to our previous poster who warns us all of catastrophic depreciation on our GR Yaris, but my trade valuations have been going up since the New Year. Will there be a GR Yaris available for £20k by the end of the year? Maybe, but not one you would want to buy!

[ferrisbueller]

bencollins4 said:

Sorry to break it to our previous poster who warns us all of catastrophic depreciation on our GR Yaris, but my trade valuations have been going up since the New Year. Will there be a GR Yaris available for £20k by the end of the year? Maybe, but not one you would want to buy!

Maybe a GRMN Yaris?

These were circa £26k new.

2018 car with 20k miles is £20k......https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014458199

Another anomaly.

[Jim on the hill]

ferrisbueller said:

bencollins4 said:

Sorry to break it to our previous poster who warns us all of catastrophic depreciation on our GR Yaris, but my trade valuations have been going up since the New Year. Will there be a GR Yaris available for £20k by the end of the year? Maybe, but not one you would want to buy!

Maybe a GRMN Yaris?

These were circa £26k new.

2018 car with 20k miles is £20k......https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014458199

Another anomaly.

Feels more DS style.

[bennno]

bencollins4 said:

Sorry to break it to our previous poster who warns us all of catastrophic depreciation on our GR Yaris, but my trade valuations have been going up since the New Year. Will there be a GR Yaris available for £20k by the end of the year? Maybe, but not one you would want to buy!

Valuations are significantly down from 3 or 6 months ago.

Moving forward it very much depends wether the improved car is 35k, 40k or 45k.

[ferrisbueller]

bennno said:

bencollins4 said:

Sorry to break it to our previous poster who warns us all of catastrophic depreciation on our GR Yaris, but my trade valuations have been going up since the New Year. Will there be a GR Yaris available for £20k by the end of the year? Maybe, but not one you would want to buy!

Valuations are significantly down from 3 or 6 months ago.

Moving forward it very much depends wether the improved car is 35k, 40k or 45k.

Sorry to be that guy, with actual data, but the valuations I am getting now, are the same as I was getting in September, having dipped slightly at the traditional low point of November.

The price and availability will potentially have an impact, I agree. We'll see in about 6 weeks.

[Yahonza]

bennno said:

Valuations are significantly down from 3 or 6 months ago.

Moving forward it very much depends wether the improved car is 35k, 40k or 45k.

I'm not sure they are, there are just more older cars for sale as people come off their contract. A low mileage 2021 circuit pack will still set you back at least 30k - which is pretty good for a car that cost 33k. At the top is the red Litchfield CP - still at 60K and at the bottom the Cat C for 25K. It's more of a buyers market, but still not in reach of many people who live in hope of getting a very cheap one.

[ecsrobin]

Yahonza said:

I'm not sure they are, there are just more older cars for sale as people come off their contract. A low mileage 2021 circuit pack will still set you back at least 30k - which is pretty good for a car that cost 33k. At the top is the red Litchfield CP - still at 60K and at the bottom the Cat C for 25K. It's more of a buyers market, but still not in reach of many people who live in hope of getting a very cheap one.

[Yahonza]

ecsrobin said:

Yahonza said:

I'm not sure they are, there are just more older cars for sale as people come off their contract. A low mileage 2021 circuit pack will still set you back at least 30k - which is pretty good for a car that cost 33k. At the top is the red Litchfield CP - still at 60K and at the bottom the Cat C for 25K. It's more of a buyers market, but still not in reach of many people who live in hope of getting a very cheap one.

[bennno]

ferrisbueller said:

Sorry to be that guy, with actual data, but the valuations I am getting now, are the same as I was getting in September, having dipped slightly at the traditional low point of November.

The price and availability will potentially have an impact, I agree. We'll see in about 6 weeks.

All seem to have been on market since August, at main dealers with 7-10% reductions, not sold….

[Jim on the hill]

Really good write up v a 22b and Audi Quattro.

Not sure if it's been posted already

https://www.evo.co.uk/hot-hatchbacks/206453/audi-s...

[ferrisbueller]

bennno said:

ferrisbueller said:

Sorry to be that guy, with actual data, but the valuations I am getting now, are the same as I was getting in September, having dipped slightly at the traditional low point of November.

The price and availability will potentially have an impact, I agree. We'll see in about 6 weeks.

All seem to have been on market since August, at main dealers with 7-10% reductions, not sold….

Right, so you've got two main dealer cars and a private one (with a seller who doesn't appear to know what they're doing).

The original asking prices for those two cars is, IIRC, over list, which IMO simply wasn't realistic. I don't think they were representative of the market at the time they were listed and they were overpriced, significantly. They're now around £31k, which is in the ballpark we've discussed above. Those cars were never worth the asking price, the dealers were fishing. The value hasn't varied greatly, the asking price has. Based on my numbers, I'd suggest that the underlying trade value of those two main dealer cars hasn't varied by that much.That's not the market correcting per se, that's a couple of chancer dealers getting a shock of reality and profiteering being fruitless.

One of those franchises, Inchcape, had a massively overpriced "new" (read used) GR86 for sale for ages, simply hoping for a mug punter to come and throw theiir money at them, which, of course didn't happen and then they got caught by the second batch of new cars coming available. That car didn't sell for ages, until such time as they got realistic with the pricing.

ETA. That Inchcape Yaris says "part service history", which really does show them to be out of bed. Given the options available, IMO that car is still significantly overpriced. (WBAC is £25,650,which may well be similar to what they bid the previous owner last September)

ETA 2. Just as an indication of where the broader market is, especially high end, I've been looking at these for a friend. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307159...

Edited by ferrisbueller on Wednesday 24th January 22:00

[ferrisbueller]

Jim on the hill said:

Really good write up v a 22b and Audi Quattro.

Not sure if it's been posted already

https://www.evo.co.uk/hot-hatchbacks/206453/audi-s...

I still have major lust for a 2 door Impreza.

[Jim on the hill]

Ogier Edition



And the Rovenpera with a donut mode

Edited by Jim on the hill on Thursday 25th January 15:57

[ferrisbueller]

Pretty bold. Especially with 69 emblazoned on the side.

[bennno]

The special editions are interesting in the context, where the non limited cars were cars were selling above list due to scarcity.

God knows how they will price and allocate the special editions..... they'll clearly cost and be worth more

[Caddyshack]

You may be able to negotiate that private seller down to £27 / 28k or less if they need the money and getting fed up with no sales. I am sure they have plugged it in to WBAC and seen the silly quote from them.