Brake Discs

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Looking for some discs for track work and trying to work out my options. Fronts are easy enough to work out if they fit but not sure on the rears. Anyone know the spec or care to share any help/advice?

First option is these high-carbon Brembos although I don't know if they fit the rear
https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/en/catalogue/re...

Second option is these, which I'm sure do fit both axles
https://www.tarox.co.uk/product/front-tarox-brake-...

Thirdly, I'm thinking of getting in touch with Reyland and seeing what they can do. More expensive...
http://www.reyland.co.uk/renault/

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Liam22 said:

If you have the larger, 320mm discs, they are the same size front and rear.

But will the pads clear the hubs?

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Thanks George, I was hoping you’d reply . Where did you get them from and do you know if they’ll fit on the rear ok?

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HokumPokum said:

what pads are you guys using for track work?

Carbotech XP8

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I've also heard the same thing about the Ferodo pads supposedly having the same base compound so I think your approach is quite sensible. With hindsight I probably should have gone this route too!

My 'plan' is/was to keep the standard discs and pads for road and switch over to the XP8 with 'track discs' as needed but it would be a lot less hassle to keep the discs and just swap the pads. By the way, I'm sure I read somewhere that the standard pads are Ferodo too!

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Are there any guides/videos for replacing the discs?

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What discs/pads do you have at the rear, Franzino?

And do your pads squeal on the road?

I'm talking with Reyland at the moment with a view to them making rotors and bells for me. As far as I can remember, they use AP bolt pattern so can use AP rotors, should I wish. Anyone also interested in this, let me know

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I was thinking of having a set of original discs/pads for road and the Carbotech XP8 pads with some other discs for track as although the XP8 are fantastic pads they do squeal a lot on the road. However, it does mean a lot of messing around swapping stuff over which I'd rather not do. Maybe I should try the RSL29 on the front with the Reyland discs and see how I get on.

Just seen the price of the RSL29 rear pads I've bought cheaper cars in the past!

I think the Reyland discs will come in at about £525 for fixed and £675 for floating and the intention is that they'll work on the rear as well as the front.

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For anyone that's interested, Tarox sell discs that will fit both the front and rear of the Alpine and they've just listed them on their site rather than having to look for Clio RS3 etc.

I'd been interested in getting some but wasn't really a fan of their groove designs as they just looked too 'busy'. The model I'm referring to is the F2000. However, I've just spoken to them and they can do a different design called the C83. It's isn't listed on their site just yet but if you get in contact they can supply them.

Link to the F2000 disc (listed as Front, but will fit on the rear without issues)
https://www.tarox.co.uk/product/front-tarox-brake-...

This is what the C83 looks like

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The best track pads are Carbotech XP8. If you send your old pads to Ian at Carbotech Europe he will take the clips off them and fit them to some of his pads. The only downside to the XP8 on the rear is that they do squeal in road use. Alternatively, get the performance road pads for the rear from Life110. These are EBC Bluestuff and come with the clips fitted. According to David they are good enough on track and do not squeal on the road.

I've had XP8 fitted all round for 2 years on my A110 but will be going to the Bluestuff on the rear this weekend - purely due to the squeal which is from the rears, not the fronts.

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Gibbo205 said:

Hi there

Where is best place to buy front XP8 pads for A110S, are they an easy fitment, no mods required?
Life110 list, but don't have stock.

I've ordered the braided hoses and Motul fluid but need the pads.

Hi Andrew. Give Ian a call at Carbotech Europe 01768 885000.

Yes, front pads are very easy to fit.

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five50 said:

Not sure if you remember me - I was at the LoT day at Silverstone in November 2023 with a white Exige and asking dumb qns about Alpine.

I do indeed remember you, and no such thing as a dumb question. Only dumb answers!

I'm aiming to be at Anglesey on BH Monday (28th May?) with LoT if you fancy it

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five50 said:

WorldWideWebs - any feedback on the Life110 performance rears, now they are back in stock?

Sorry, five50, been on holiday and have only just seen this.

On the rear axle I've gone from Tarox discs with Carbotech XP8 pads to OEM discs and Life110 pads. Without doubt the former setup performs better. However, the difference isn't massive and there is zero squeal on the road! So basically I achieved what I set out to - excellent

What I would say though is that I have suffered some 'grumbling' from the brakes and I can only really put this down to the rears as the front setup has stayed unchanged for over 18 months. It wasn't awful, just slightly disconcerting, although they did seem to continue to work. I've just done a second day with the setup and again they performed well with some more grumbling/judder. In fact, the car flew around Anglesey but that had more to do with the AST coilovers which are quite simply superb.

I did message Mr Pook after the first day and he suggested trying the Tarox discs with his pads, which I will probably do later this month. I have Spa booked for the 1st of July and would like to try this combo out before then. The OEM discs are pretty soft but I wanted to try them again as they are quite a bit lighter than the Tarox. Ideally I'd try a different lightweight rear disc but I'm not aware of one available (at least in this country)

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Spokeyblokey said:

Try Paul or Anneliese at Wortec (not always quick to reply, but be persistent). Their floating discs are c.2kg lighter per disc than EOM. I have them on my S.

Do they fit front and rear or just rear? Do you use them on track? What pads? (sorry for all the questions!!!!)

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Spokeyblokey said:

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Spokeyblokey said:

Try Paul or Anneliese at Wortec (not always quick to reply, but be persistent). Their floating discs are c.2kg lighter per disc than EOM. I have them on my S.

Do they fit front and rear or just rear? Do you use them on track? What pads? (sorry for all the questions!!!!)

Front:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5jER9jtXYt/?img_index...

and rear:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5llEGSIsa1/

I have Life110 performance road pads on the front and OEMs on the back. I don't track my car, at least not yet. Take a look at Wortec's instagram feed for a better idea of the work they do. Btw Paul & Anneliese have their own A110 which these discs are also fitted to.

Thanks - will look into it

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I believe he got them from Mosa Frein in Belgium.

MP-R do a kit of 330mm AP discs for front and rear for just under €3800 too

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Following my last track day at Anglesey on Monday I've noticed that my front pads (Carbotech XP8) are getting low. They probably have another 1 or 2 days left in them but I'm off to Spa in a few weeks and don't want to risk it, so new pads ordered. That then got me thinking - do I keep using the Tarox discs or use this opportunity to swap to something better and lighter? Well, I think it's time to swap, but what for?

Girodisc - 320mm. Fit front only. Seem decent enough and there are a few people tracking with them. Life110 sell them but I don't think David has them on his car.

Mosa Frein - AP Racing 320mm. Front only. Always impressed with AP stuff but it is more pricey and I'm not yet sure what they would cost with import duty etc. I also think the pad needs to be machined down a tiny amount and I can't see me being able to get that done easily. I think these are also sold by NM-Engineering

MP-Rezeau - GR3 kit, AP Racing 330mm. Fits front and rear. AP kit again and a slightly bigger disc. Needs caliper spacers and I'm unsure whether they are included in the kit price but I've sent them an email so we'll see. A friend has these on his A110R and is mightily impressed. Also unsure whether the pad needs machining although I would expect not as the spacers should resolve that problem. Again the same questions about landed costs to the UK (Editied to add that they have confirmed they can ship to the UK and sell free of French VAT, so that should be easy enough)

Reyland - I'm sure they do something to fit but can't see it on their website (Megane/Clio fit). Much cheaper if they can do something. Comms aren't their strong point based on my last interaction with them so if there isn't anything on the shelf I won't bother further

Wortec - 320mm. Fit front and rear. Don't know anything about them other than the photos. They could be the very finest available but I've yet to see them being used hard on track and I don't want to be a guinea pig (unless they are VERY cheap).

Have I missed anything?

I can see me going down the Girodisc route due to ease but I will try and see what MP-R can do first. I hear they are superb when you're there in person but can be a bit hit and miss with email/phone.

Edited by worldwidewebs on Friday 31st May 07:35