Discounted stock Emiras...

Discounted stock Emiras...

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Sukh13

760 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Honeywell said:
Wow. £65k asking in mid Nov. With no bites in a few weeks that'll go for £60k.

Mind you just look at the number of 911's piling up on AT for sale.

This market is crashing.
Same car up to 73k after not selling at 65k for a month...

highway

1,971 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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I noticed that earlier. How odd. Perhaps the seller has had a change of heart having already paid for the advert? Perhaps not motivated to sell at a lower price anymore?

Honeywell

1,381 posts

99 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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How strong a seller position is a 7k price hike in a world where nearly everyone knows the sports car market is crashing and Porsche are offering discounts?

THERE will be a sellers strike. And then the reality will hit.

highway

1,971 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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With the price on that car hiked, I think the cheapest car is advertised a whisker under £70k. They aren’t littering the classifieds at £65k

Sukh13

760 posts

186 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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The other cars that were in the mid sixties sold, the rest are hanging about...

PorkInsider

5,910 posts

142 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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WBAC now offering high 40s so taking their direction as a barometer I think they're coming down further yet, especially with a steady ~70 being listed on AT at any time.

bcr5784

7,122 posts

146 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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I see Lotus are now offering free servicing for 5 years.

Honeywell

1,381 posts

99 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Using Harry Metcalfes registration on Motorway I get £62,500 as a valuation.


highway

1,971 posts

261 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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If trade were paying £62500 for a used Emira, what margin does it leave them? WBAC show them at mid £40’s. I can’t see any trader wanting to buy in at that level

Honeywell

1,381 posts

99 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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£46,720 on WBAC.


Honeywell

1,381 posts

99 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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highway said:
If trade were paying £62500 for a used Emira, what margin does it leave them? WBAC show them at mid £40’s. I can’t see any trader wanting to buy in at that level
I don't know. I suspect the Motorway price is highly speculative on what one might achieve based on very limited data. The WBAC value is the more instructive. Losing £30k in a year is a painful place to be full of Porsache Taycan owners...

Honeywell

1,381 posts

99 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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There will be some owners eventually who come out of finance, have changed circumstances and need to sell. If the trade are offering £48k then they'll be on Autotrader for low 50's.

At which point, with the running in completed, the first year car tax paid and the recalls all done they will look attractive to me.

Sukh13

760 posts

186 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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I think it will take dinner time yet to get to that point!

highway

1,971 posts

261 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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I’ll be a buyer at dinner time in the £50’s! Today, tomorrow or the day after!

Sukh13

760 posts

186 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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  • some biggrin

fridaypassion

8,665 posts

229 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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highway said:
If trade were paying £62500 for a used Emira, what margin does it leave them? WBAC show them at mid £40’s. I can’t see any trader wanting to buy in at that level
Absolutely not and it shows what a scam Motorway is.

Dr Interceptor

7,820 posts

197 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Cheapest actual car now is a Red 23 reg with white interior at Sytner Cardiff for £69,500.

I notice Lotus now have an 'available cars' button on their website, which never used to be there. Take your pick from one of the cancelled orders and instantly lose £20k.

https://www.lotuscars.com/en-GB/car-locator?model=...

Pflanzgarten

4,041 posts

26 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Dr Interceptor said:
Cheapest actual car now is a Red 23 reg with white interior at Sytner Cardiff for £69,500.

I notice Lotus now have an 'available cars' button on their website, which never used to be there. Take your pick from one of the cancelled orders and instantly lose £20k.

https://www.lotuscars.com/en-GB/car-locator?model=...
I still don't get how this attitude has infected buying a car confused I know it's been nice running cars for a very short period of time when they didn't lose anything but it was never going to last forever.

I can go out for lunch tomorrow with my wife and instantly lose up to a grand if I want to, all I'm left with is the memories of the experience and what I flush down the toilet the next day.

Dr Interceptor

7,820 posts

197 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Pflanzgarten said:
I still don't get how this attitude has infected buying a car confused I know it's been nice running cars for a very short period of time when they didn't lose anything but it was never going to last forever.

I can go out for lunch tomorrow with my wife and instantly lose up to a grand if I want to, all I'm left with is the memories of the experience and what I flush down the toilet the next day.
Different things entirely... I went out last night in Lagos with a friend and ran up a large tab drinking rare Tequillas... I didn't lose money, I spent it doing something I enjoy.

For me, I couldn't spend £90,000 on a brand new Emira, when I know an eight month old one with less than 3000 miles is just over £70,000.

Pflanzgarten

4,041 posts

26 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Dr Interceptor said:
Pflanzgarten said:
I still don't get how this attitude has infected buying a car confused I know it's been nice running cars for a very short period of time when they didn't lose anything but it was never going to last forever.

I can go out for lunch tomorrow with my wife and instantly lose up to a grand if I want to, all I'm left with is the memories of the experience and what I flush down the toilet the next day.
Different things entirely... I went out last night in Lagos with a friend and ran up a large tab drinking rare Tequillas... I didn't lose money, I spent it doing something I enjoy.

For me, I couldn't spend £90,000 on a brand new Emira, when I know an eight month old one with less than 3000 miles is just over £70,000.
Just as you prioritise different things someone else may think that getting a brand new Emira that no one else has driven, in exactly the spec they want is worth the spend more than some fancy tequilas might be.