Discounts on new Taycans?

Discounts on new Taycans?

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W12GT

3,554 posts

222 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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I’ve had an email today from an OPC following up on an enquiry I made in October last year. They’re getting desperate - offered a discount and a ‘low’ PCP deal.

Chap told me he couldn’t give me a car last year as they were only allowed to sell to customers ‘within their postcode’.

Unreal 489 available today.

Edited by W12GT on Wednesday 20th September 21:37

phib

4,465 posts

260 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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W12GT said:
I’ve had an email today from an OPC following up on an enquiry I made in October last year. They’re getting desperate - offered a discount and a ‘low’ PCP deal.

Chap told me he couldn’t give me a car last year as they were only allowed to sell to customers ‘within their postcode’.

Unreal 489 available today.

Edited by W12GT on Wednesday 20th September 21:37
How low was the pcp deal ?

W12GT

3,554 posts

222 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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phib said:
W12GT said:
I’ve had an email today from an OPC following up on an enquiry I made in October last year. They’re getting desperate - offered a discount and a ‘low’ PCP deal.

Chap told me he couldn’t give me a car last year as they were only allowed to sell to customers ‘within their postcode’.

Unreal 489 available today.

Edited by W12GT on Wednesday 20th September 21:37
How low was the pcp deal ?
It’s cleverly worded - basically click bait, the important bit that I’ve not seen before is this….

‘The brand is also supporting us here at the dealership with incentives for clients placing a new Taycan order.’

Chipper

1,335 posts

218 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Just look at Audi etron Gt prices !

Cheib

23,319 posts

176 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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phib said:
Which EV cars are considered new tech ? And what’s the differences ?

Thanks

Phib
Taycan's are very inefficient. EV's should be looked at in terms of miles per kw (equivalent of mpg) not range.

Because they are so inefficient unless you have access to a high powered charger they take an awfully long time to charge....so you can only sensibly use the high end charger's when on the road which they're are even less of.

barryrs

4,413 posts

224 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Cheib said:
Taycan's are very inefficient. EV's should be looked at in terms of miles per kw (equivalent of mpg) not range.

Because they are so inefficient unless you have access to a high powered charger they take an awfully long time to charge....so you can only sensibly use the high end charger's when on the road which they're are even less of.
I cant imagine they are any worse than my EQC and I can charge from 0 to full overnight on a 7kw charger, albeit not within the 5 hour cheap rate on an EV tariff.

Abc321

475 posts

96 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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A transporter full of new Taycans on the M18 this morning.

One very nice Gulf Orange one was amongst them!

Obviously Porsche won't just decide to stop making them for a couple of weeks due to the build up of stock, but would you think theres a slow down in production? I imagine at their height, they were churning out a silly number of them a day.

bridggar1

91 posts

42 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Given the manufacturer quotas for EVs - they wouldn't slow down if they could!

Cheib

23,319 posts

176 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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barryrs said:
Cheib said:
Taycan's are very inefficient. EV's should be looked at in terms of miles per kw (equivalent of mpg) not range.

Because they are so inefficient unless you have access to a high powered charger they take an awfully long time to charge....so you can only sensibly use the high end charger's when on the road which they're are even less of.
I cant imagine they are any worse than my EQC and I can charge from 0 to full overnight on a 7kw charger, albeit not within the 5 hour cheap rate on an EV tariff.
I think a Tacan with the large battery is about 90 kw ? So roughly 2 miles per kw....most EV's are double that. That means you are very reliant on high speed chargers for long journey's in my mind.

As you say home charging is much less on an issue. From my experience of Taycan loan cars high powered charges are a necessity unless you have a lot of time on your hands !



h0b0

7,671 posts

197 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Cheib said:
barryrs said:
Cheib said:
Taycan's are very inefficient. EV's should be looked at in terms of miles per kw (equivalent of mpg) not range.

Because they are so inefficient unless you have access to a high powered charger they take an awfully long time to charge....so you can only sensibly use the high end charger's when on the road which they're are even less of.
I cant imagine they are any worse than my EQC and I can charge from 0 to full overnight on a 7kw charger, albeit not within the 5 hour cheap rate on an EV tariff.
I think a Tacan with the large battery is about 90 kw ? So roughly 2 miles per kw....most EV's are double that. That means you are very reliant on high speed chargers for long journey's in my mind.

As you say home charging is much less on an issue. From my experience of Taycan loan cars high powered charges are a necessity unless you have a lot of time on your hands !
Back in the 70’s America. Cars were judged on power and range. The manufacturers just put bigger fuel tanks in. The EV market is exactly the same.

Charlie_1

1,015 posts

93 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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I have received an email from my OPC (Bournemouth) advising they have 5 'new' Taycan's in stock and if I'm interested to contact them, Its obviously a generic mail if for no other reason than I have never expressed an interest in owning one

sushi_stu

39 posts

39 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Cheib said:
I think a Tacan with the large battery is about 90 kw ? So roughly 2 miles per kw....most EV's are double that. That means you are very reliant on high speed chargers for long journey's in my mind.

As you say home charging is much less on an issue. From my experience of Taycan loan cars high powered charges are a necessity unless you have a lot of time on your hands !
I use 33.5kw per 100 miles in the summer on my Taycan GTS that's 3 miles per KW on a 600bhp car. A 992 turbo might use a touch more fuel than a Fiesta.

Sport_Turismo_GTS

890 posts

30 months

Saturday 30th September 2023
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Cheib said:
Taycan's are very inefficient. EV's should be looked at in terms of miles per kw (equivalent of mpg) not range.

Because they are so inefficient unless you have access to a high powered charger they take an awfully long time to charge....so you can only sensibly use the high end charger's when on the road which they're are even less of.
While they aren’t the most efficient of EVs, they will still do more than 200 miles on a charge, even when using the full performance available.
A 10-15min charge on a fast charger will get you from 15% to 80% charge, so with appropriate planning, it really isn’t that much of an issue, unless you’re frequently doing long trips with no access to fast chargers.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Saturday 30th September 2023
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Sport_Turismo_GTS said:
While they aren’t the most efficient of EVs, they will still do more than 200 miles on a charge, even when using the full performance available.
A 10-15min charge on a fast charger will get you from 15% to 80% charge, so with appropriate planning, it really isn’t that much of an issue, unless you’re frequently doing long trips with no access to fast chargers.
Out of interest, how much does that fast charge from 15-80% cost?

Cheib

23,319 posts

176 months

Saturday 30th September 2023
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sushi_stu said:
Cheib said:
I think a Tacan with the large battery is about 90 kw ? So roughly 2 miles per kw....most EV's are double that. That means you are very reliant on high speed chargers for long journey's in my mind.

As you say home charging is much less on an issue. From my experience of Taycan loan cars high powered charges are a necessity unless you have a lot of time on your hands !
I use 33.5kw per 100 miles in the summer on my Taycan GTS that's 3 miles per KW on a 600bhp car. A 992 turbo might use a touch more fuel than a Fiesta.
If you're getting close to 300 miles out of a full battery that's very good. A 992 Turbo does indeed use more fuel than a Fiesta but it can be filled from the same pump which there are a lot more of than fast chargers...so it is much less of an issue.

Murph7355

37,821 posts

257 months

Saturday 30th September 2023
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TTmonkey said:
Out of interest, how much does that fast charge from 15-80% cost?
Depends where you do it. Prices are very variable.

Most common charge (sic) is around 69p per kWh, so 15%-80% is about £38.

At that price point it's broadly comparable to, or a touch less than, using my old 997 C4S (which as sports cars go is pretty frugal. Though "only" 380bhp
and further behind on torque smile).

There are places that are more expensive (83p is the most I've seen yet) and cheaper (39p, though have only seen that on an app. Haven't paid that yet!).

Murph7355

37,821 posts

257 months

Saturday 30th September 2023
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Cheib said:
sushi_stu said:
Cheib said:
I think a Tacan with the large battery is about 90 kw ? So roughly 2 miles per kw....most EV's are double that. That means you are very reliant on high speed chargers for long journey's in my mind.

As you say home charging is much less on an issue. From my experience of Taycan loan cars high powered charges are a necessity unless you have a lot of time on your hands !
I use 33.5kw per 100 miles in the summer on my Taycan GTS that's 3 miles per KW on a 600bhp car. A 992 turbo might use a touch more fuel than a Fiesta.
If you're getting close to 300 miles out of a full battery that's very good. A 992 Turbo does indeed use more fuel than a Fiesta but it can be filled from the same pump which there are a lot more of than fast chargers...so it is much less of an issue.
I don't think he will be...usable capacity on a Taycan GTS is 84kWh I believe....so it'll be more like 250 miles.

My car's averaging 2.8miles/kWh at the moment. I suspect that's pretty representative as it's done 11k miles.

HoHoHo

15,004 posts

251 months

Saturday 30th September 2023
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Murph7355 said:
TTmonkey said:
Out of interest, how much does that fast charge from 15-80% cost?
Depends where you do it. Prices are very variable.

Most common charge (sic) is around 69p per kWh, so 15%-80% is about £38.

At that price point it's broadly comparable to, or a touch less than, using my old 997 C4S (which as sports cars go is pretty frugal. Though "only" 380bhp
and further behind on torque smile).

There are places that are more expensive (83p is the most I've seen yet) and cheaper (39p, though have only seen that on an app. Haven't paid that yet!).
When you buy one from Porsche you are given a card by Porsche which when used at an Ionity charging station reduces the cost to £0.30p per/kw, so about £16.50 for 160 odd miles.


barryrs

4,413 posts

224 months

Saturday 30th September 2023
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Or 7.5 to 8p at home at 7.2kw if you’re not in a rush.

Sport_Turismo_GTS

890 posts

30 months

Saturday 30th September 2023
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TTmonkey said:
Out of interest, how much does that fast charge from 15-80% cost?
30p per KWh with Ionity & the Porsche charging card. Double that otherwise, which would be less than £20 for 200miles approx.