Buying a used Taycan
Discussion
phib said:
I would take the Taycan over the gt3 any day… bold statement I know but ….
It does massively depend on what you are doing with it !
I wouldn’t daily a GT3 but would and do the Taycan
I did used to daily a 2.7rs lightweight in the very late 90’s though !! Story for another day.
Phib
If I had a GT3 I would daily it until I wasn’t physically able.It does massively depend on what you are doing with it !
I wouldn’t daily a GT3 but would and do the Taycan
I did used to daily a 2.7rs lightweight in the very late 90’s though !! Story for another day.
Phib
2.7rs is a special car.
Reality is that a Taycan suits me much better.
Had a brief look at M850i’s, but I’m sticking with the Taycan plan.
Mikebentley said:
phib said:
It’s definitely a thing, bigger wheels etc. With EV s putting range to the forefront of people’s minds has reminded us all of the impacts of different body kits, wheels and general drag. I think with ICE cars people just tuned out of these considerations. 
Mine should get 257 miles (and it does)
Mine with 21 wheels 238 miles
Turbo ST 21's 236
Turbo ST 20's 249
So basically the size of wheel does seem to make a big difference in fact 20 miles of range
Phib
Edited by phib on Tuesday 8th August 16:27
phib said:
Was having a bit of a play with the configurer this morning and there is a range calculator based on options and it seems my car (without meaning to do) gets pretty much the highest milage i.e. a saloon with 20 inch wheels (turbo / big battery)
Mine should get 257 miles (and it does)
Mine with 21 wheels 238 miles
Turbo ST 21's 236
Turbo ST 20's 249
So basically the size of wheel does seem to make a big difference in fact 20 miles of range
Phib
The Turbo wheels are my favourite out of all the factory options.Mine should get 257 miles (and it does)
Mine with 21 wheels 238 miles
Turbo ST 21's 236
Turbo ST 20's 249
So basically the size of wheel does seem to make a big difference in fact 20 miles of range
Phib
Edited by phib on Tuesday 8th August 16:27
Although some aftermarket options look really good on the Taycan.
Some strange stuff on this thread, I have had a Taycan 4S, Turbos S, a CT 4s and Sport Turisomo GTS I also own a 991.2 GT3. The Taycan as a day to day is amazing if you are not doing regular 250+mile day trips. The GT3 and Turbo 911s are not comparable. My Taycan replaced a Range Rover SVA - and I dont miss the Range Rover, although borrowed my mates new SV Range and got to say I love the seats and driving position in that.
To the chap that got 145 miles, you must of had the heaters on 50C lol - or a faulty car that is crazy and not my experience in any of the 4 I have had experience with.
To the chap that got 145 miles, you must of had the heaters on 50C lol - or a faulty car that is crazy and not my experience in any of the 4 I have had experience with.
stuckmojo said:
Adding.
Man math would net this off with lower charging cost (I'd scrounge at work) and lower maintenance while keeping OPC warranty.
Still 200% the cost of running the Macan. Way off still.
I was shocked by the quote. I think insurance must be one of the biggest reasons for the price collapse. Man math would net this off with lower charging cost (I'd scrounge at work) and lower maintenance while keeping OPC warranty.
Still 200% the cost of running the Macan. Way off still.
I can’t bring myself to pay that. It would put a dampener on the whole experience of owning one for me.
£5k and some quotes were significantly higher. Add deprecation and extended warranty and it’s scary.
Think I will go for a 991 or AMG GTS.
Edited by Bailey. on Thursday 17th August 12:45
Bailey. said:
I was shocked by the quote. I think insurance must be one of the biggest reasons for the price collapse.
I can’t bring myself to pay that. It would put a dampener on the whole experience of owning one for me.
£5k and some quotes were significantly higher. Add deprecation and extended warranty and it’s scary.
Think I will go for a 991 or AMG GTS.
I saw this and have been meaning to see what mine looks like - with Admiral over my 2022 Macan (2.0) is was an extra £93 so currently paying £1400 for Mini EV, Macan (Dec 22) and home insurance in that number and I chose a 4s Sport Turismo with Performance Battery Plus at £100k.I can’t bring myself to pay that. It would put a dampener on the whole experience of owning one for me.
£5k and some quotes were significantly higher. Add deprecation and extended warranty and it’s scary.
Think I will go for a 991 or AMG GTS.
Edited by Bailey. on Thursday 17th August 12:45
Bailey. said:
stuckmojo said:
Adding.
Man math would net this off with lower charging cost (I'd scrounge at work) and lower maintenance while keeping OPC warranty.
Still 200% the cost of running the Macan. Way off still.
I was shocked by the quote. I think insurance must be one of the biggest reasons for the price collapse. Man math would net this off with lower charging cost (I'd scrounge at work) and lower maintenance while keeping OPC warranty.
Still 200% the cost of running the Macan. Way off still.
I can’t bring myself to pay that. It would put a dampener on the whole experience of owning one for me.
£5k and some quotes were significantly higher. Add deprecation and extended warranty and it’s scary.
Think I will go for a 991 or AMG GTS.
Edited by Bailey. on Thursday 17th August 12:45
I never think 'what if' when I see a taycan. But if I had bought a taycan I think I would have second guessed my choice whenever I saw a 911.
DMC2 said:
phib said:
DMC2 said:
Bailey. said:
The way prices have gone over the last 6 months, nothing compares to the Taycan for me.
Maybe in the summer, not in the winter!If you mean range drop, on my turbo at worst it goes from 240 to 210, always been the same and its a real 240 or 210
Having said I have just had another update and its now 260 as of this morning!
Phib
stuckmojo said:
W12GT said:
I’m with you on this - my 4S ST with the performance battery only got 165m to a charge. It’s one of the many reasons I sold it.
165 miles???Wow. I might have to reconsider
Phib
phib said:
I think at 165 there was something wrong with it, even on my Turbo and turbo S ive never seen below 190 and that was when they were brand new in -5, range always goes up the more miles you do.
Phib
Too many variables IMO.Phib
Speed, battery temp, ambient temp and type of roads being driven on can make a massive difference IMO.
That said, even with a leaden foot on motorway driving, I think the lowest I'd have got thus far is 180-185. (It's currently sat at 60% and showing 117mi...so that's about 195mi if full).
It'd be great if it could do 400 miles of course...but the reality for me is that I or one of the other occupants usually wants a stop at the 2-2.5hr driving mark. In the time it takes them to have a comfort break and grab a take away coffee, the car's got another 150-180 miles in it. Rinse and repeat...it's simply not an issue in reality, even if psychologically it might be for some (my OH included!).
Murph7355 said:
phib said:
I think at 165 there was something wrong with it, even on my Turbo and turbo S ive never seen below 190 and that was when they were brand new in -5, range always goes up the more miles you do.
Phib
Too many variables IMO.Phib
Speed, battery temp, ambient temp and type of roads being driven on can make a massive difference IMO.
That said, even with a leaden foot on motorway driving, I think the lowest I'd have got thus far is 180-185. (It's currently sat at 60% and showing 117mi...so that's about 195mi if full).
It'd be great if it could do 400 miles of course...but the reality for me is that I or one of the other occupants usually wants a stop at the 2-2.5hr driving mark. In the time it takes them to have a comfort break and grab a take away coffee, the car's got another 150-180 miles in it. Rinse and repeat...it's simply not an issue in reality, even if psychologically it might be for some (my OH included!).
Edited by W12GT on Sunday 7th January 16:17
W12GT said:
My issue is that I have previously been caught out by excessively busy or ice blocked or out of service chargers and thus I got to the point of thinking ‘can I make it to another charge point’. The infrastructure still isn’t there for the longer journey ms and having spent almost £100k on the car I didn’t expect to have such range anxiety. Longer journeys should be a stress free as possible and having to consider stopping to charge when I’m 115/125mile into a journey (because in the cold with unknown traffic and charge points ahead) it is always a risk that if you leave it to the last 25miles reserve to charge you could get caught out - and I very nearly did on 3 occasions when I’d made trips to Devon and Suffolk.
I've not had the car long enough to do more "random" long trips. But on the longer ones I do cover (M11/A14/A1/M62/M18/A629), the infrastructure is pretty good.I'm trusting in the Porsche route planner and it tells me what's available at each of the stations.
I suspect like most people my typical daily usage is around 30-40mi a day tops. Charging at home is a breeze.
If I had to do 300mi per day, I wouldn't be wanting to use it...but if I had to do 300mi a day I wouldn't want to use a lot of cars for many reasons
Each to their own...I drive my ICE cars until they're on fumes before filling up, so maybe I've not been susceptible to range anxiety for a long time
Thought I would add my 2 pence worth here, boxster and cayenne owner and considered a Taycan back in march. however for a company car I couldn’t warrant the porsche tax. I purchased an Etron GT which as you know has the same battery and drive train and been really happy with it. i got 10k
discount on list which appealed over the Taycan. insurance is £900 a year and hasn’t changed , as i just tested the theory that all policies have gone up with a requote. Admiral are still the cheapest….
regarding range i drive pretty quick and get 250 in the summer and 220 at the moment.
Pretty happy with the purchase and no major gripes, longest drive twice a week is 200 miles.
discount on list which appealed over the Taycan. insurance is £900 a year and hasn’t changed , as i just tested the theory that all policies have gone up with a requote. Admiral are still the cheapest….
regarding range i drive pretty quick and get 250 in the summer and 220 at the moment.
Pretty happy with the purchase and no major gripes, longest drive twice a week is 200 miles.
Edited by jrinns on Tuesday 9th January 12:40
DMC2 said:
In fact I don’t know anybody who got a real world winter range anywhere near 200
Must admit reading this worried me when I bought my Turbo not long before it was postedLeft at -3C the other day, first time I'd seen the quoted range dip below 200 miles on a full battery at 195, drove 95% motorways at the speed limit-ish (I don't do hypermiling), arrived at my destination 160 miles later with 60 miles left, clearly it won some range back as the battery warmed up
Added bonus, when I plugged it into a rapid charger on my way back the following day for a top up it went straight to the 150kW limit on my car and I got a disproportionate amount of range in a short space of time as it warmed the battery right up. By the time I'd gone in the petrol station for a coffee and a slash I actually had more than I needed.
You notice the drop in range when it's really cold but it's not a showstopper and it juuuuust about doesn't make any difference to my use anyway. I can still get to anywhere I need to go without having to significantly drop my speed or to have to charge where I wouldn't need to in the summer.
EV isn't going to work for everyone yet and I'd say right now you still can't take finding a fast charger for granted (although it is getting better) but if you have a driveway to charge it overnight then even doing pretty big annual mileages it definitely balances out as more convenient than stopping for petrol and significantly more convenient if you're comparing against a car with a smaller tank. In the Emira for example there are plenty of occasions where I've had to stop twice on a two day trip where I've got away with using a destination charger or at worst a quick 40 mile top up to get me home in the Taycan.
That said it is still hit and miss with chargers, the software on them is often rubbish and it sometimes takes a couple of goes to connect before the car times out. I've also noticed the car occasionally trips out when rapid charging on a higher SoC (75-80%) and needs restarting to get up to the 90% or so before it starts derating, although I rarely need to put that much in it on a rapid. Also they need to ban chargers that require an app, every single time it's a f
king ballache and I can't be bothered with 10 apps in my phone that all inevitably need updating whenever I go to use them.Overall though I've relied on the Taycan far more than I was expecting when I bought it, before I was expecting to take the wife's car for any longer runs but as soon as I had a handle on where the best spots are to charge up there really wasn't any point, especially as I always end up having to fill her bloody car up as she runs it on empty all the time!
Cost wise I think I bought at the right time (prices seem to have settled since when I bought it), the only thing that was a shock was the insurance which was double my Cayenne but has come down on renewal. More than balanced out by the fact that it's slashed my 'fuel' costs compared to the Cayenne.
To drive though, I think anyone that says they don't like them compared to (for example) a Panamera has got to be kidding themselves. For the type of car it is excellent and I enjoy the instantaneous responsiveness of it way more often than I miss the noise. For the days I fancy the noise I take the Lotus which I know is a luxury but I'd suggest most people who enjoy cars rather than just buying it for the badge will be the same.
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