F355 replica's

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F1ACK

6 posts

229 months

Sunday 10th April 2005
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WOW! them some wheels!!!

I haven't got the spacers made yet, the chap said that they will be about £750 to convert the MR2 hubs to the ferrari wheels. I got the genuine ferrari wheels, the rear ones are 10" wide (265x40x18 tyres) and the fronts are 8" wide (225x40x18 tyres).

As for lowering I got some coilovers as it definately needs lowering some, not fitted these yet though

deathbyfish

207 posts

238 months

Sunday 10th April 2005
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thats a lot for some wheel spacers! i did have a look on ebay a while back and somebody in america was selling cusom made spacers for about £100 or so, just had a quick look now and found-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=66486&item=7966637233&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
bet if you ask them they'll make some wider ones.

hhl

8 posts

229 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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Hello evryone

Im not into kit cars and had no clue that cars could be copied and replicas could be made in such a way.

Last week i found a site bout mr2s converted to ferraris and was really interested by it. To be honest i can't tell the difference between the pic of replicas and the real thing.

What i want to know is what other replica cars are available especially ferraris, porsche, lamborghini etc.

i reas somewhere that a supra can be converted into a ferrari 550, is that tru. Can someone point me into the right direction and provide more info.

btw im 20 and have been driving since 17, first i bought a calibra but didnt get insurance, currently ive got a basic peougeot 306. I was considering buying a nice 2 litre sports car like an mr2. but now im having 2nd thoughts and wanna go for a ferrari replica, every1 i know would be fooled by it, trust me.

do you think its a good idea.

peter450

1,650 posts

234 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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so you want to fool people into thinking your driving a real ferrari, well i jus hope you dont crash into anyone after you made this comment.

"first i bought a calibra but didnt get insurance"

i can picture the poor guy now at first he will be quite shaken up but relieved at seeing he's been hit by a ferrari well at least he wont have to worry about the other guys insurance or so he thinks?

then reality hits he gets his letter through the post to find the other guys insurance documents were as fake as his car, that'l be a nice surprise for him hey


hhl

8 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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as i said i didn't know much about these replicas till last week. I don't understand y ppl in all these forums are slaggin them off, r u guys jealous that u can't evn afford the replica.

heres a list of the advantages i can think of rite now, ill add more as they come along and invite others to do so too. If u disagree with them then atleast come up with a list of disadvantages from the point of view of the owner of such a replica. All ive seen so far is alot of jealousy but no real substance in the arguments.

Here they are:

1. Good looks that will fool 99% of the public
2. Affordable car
3. Affordable insurance
4. Affordable petrol
5. Basically ill be able to afford it evn though im 20

Can't think of anythin else rite now, btw i want to know what other replicas r out there, is the ferrari 360 or 550 etc available, now that would be cool.

meeja

8,289 posts

249 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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hhl said:

1. Good looks that will fool 99% of the public

Hmm... I'm not sure about 99%..... some of the public - yes.

Remember that it would have to be a VERY good replica to fool many people.

hhl said:

5. Basically ill be able to afford it evn though im 20


Don't be so sure. When you put together the cost of a decent MR2 as your donor car, plus the cost of a decent kit, the cost of putting it together to a high standard, the cost of a high quality paint job, the cost of retrimming the interior, and the cost of "all of the other little details" that you would need to create a replica that would "fool 99% of the public", you would have spent a damn site more cash than you think!

There are other authentic looking replicas out there, but the majority of them are for much older models. Porsche 356 replicas for examples (But then I'm biased!)

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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meeja said:

There are other authentic looking replicas out there, but the majority of them are for much older models. Porsche 356 replicas for examples (But then I'm biased!)


lovely looking Chesil there Adrian (I'm assuming its a chesil ?) ..we are going to have one, one day.

meeja

8,289 posts

249 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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It is!

I hasten to add that it is not a picture of my car... it is a stock image..... mine is somewhat futher away from completion!

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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meeja said:
It is!

I hasten to add that it is not a picture of my car... it is a stock image..... mine is somewhat futher away from completion!



Aaaah.. still.. it'll be great when its finished, pop a nice 1641cc engine in the back and it'll fly along

Newromancer

703 posts

263 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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hhl said:
as i said i didn't know much about these replicas till last week. I don't understand y ppl in all these forums are slaggin them off, r u guys jealous that u can't evn afford the replica.


Nahh, the point is, when you drive such a car you pretend to have something your don't have ... the moment people find out, it will be a big laugh for them, and nobody wannabe mocked. (In my hometown there was somebody who had one of these MR2 355 replicas, was great fun overteaking him, and everybody just made jokes on his costs.)

The thing I don't get is, why does anybody want to make a replica Ferrari, Prosche, or anything else there are tones on the street.

Why not make it something original, something like the showroom cars that show a vision of the future ... make it look like this:

This actually is a designstudy from Italdesign for Alfa, and I'm not telling to copy this car ... but make something as spectacular futuristic as this ... or something brutal. (The effort is exactly the same!!!)

It might be an MR2 or VW Beatle underneath, but I promise you, the Ferrari Driver who would have laughed at you, will get out of his mass product and have a respective look at yours!



A whole different story, of course, are replicas of cars that are out of production ... like old LM race cars. But this is a different story, as they are not only a replicas of the shell, but from the underneath as well ... and propably cost more then the original did.

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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Newromancer said:

The thing I don't get is, why does anybody want to make a replica Ferrari, Prosche, or anything else there are tones on the street.

Why not make it something original, something like the showroom cars that show a vision of the future ... make it look like this:

It might be an MR2 or VW Beatle underneath, but I promise you, the Ferrari Driver who would have laughed at you, will get out of his mass product and have a respective look at yours!


I'm not suprised, condsidering the £100,000's that would have gone into the designing, prototyping, laying up the moulds, panel pressing etc etc..

If you're gonna do that then you REALLY might as well buy a Lambo or a Ferrari anyway and save the cash.

Newromancer

703 posts

263 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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Something I wanted to add ...


hhl said:
but now im having 2nd thoughts and wanna go for a ferrari replica, every1 i know would be fooled by it, trust me.

do you think its a good idea.



As mentioned before, where I grew up somebody had a MR2 Ferrari, and I'm pretty sure that most of the people who moked him wouldn't have been able to spot the difference ... but somebody did, and new's like that spread fast!
And where ever he was, people mad fun about him ... I never really knew him in person, but that was how I was introduced to him.
ME looking at people mocking the boy who came into the pub: "What is the matter with him?"
My Friend: "It's Mr. Ferrari."
Me: "He is not looking like he could effort one."
Friend: "Coz. it is only a pretend one."

So to answer your question, I don't think it is a good idea.

However!
If you want something that looks spectaculary and is cheap to run, keep looking for KITs.
There are a lot of kits that can turn a Ford for example into something spectacualry. Most of them come with optional Engine-updates ... but that doesn't mean you have to change the engine as well.

Read a bit more here:
www.pistonheads.com/clubmans/
www.pistonheads.com/clubmans/features/



>> Edited by Newromancer on Tuesday 12th April 12:50

Newromancer

703 posts

263 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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M@H said:

I'm not suprised, condsidering the £100,000's that would have gone into the designing, prototyping, laying up the moulds, panel pressing etc etc..

If you're gonna do that then you REALLY might as well buy a Lambo or a Ferrari anyway and save the cash.


No. Over here I know a few Spengler (tinsmith??) that are quite capable to make you any kind of customized bodykitt out of Polyester.
All you need to find now, is somebody who can work with AutoCAD. Start to get a 3D Model of the Car you want to base it on ... and then simply start to play with it. (Might be best done by yourself if you think you can do it.) Existing body parts can be adapted, roof can be lowered.

At the end of the day it will be expensive ... yes. But you should be able to stay under 10.000,- Pound. (Depending what you have in mind.)

As mentioned, basicly it is the same as converting a MR2 to a Ferrari ... all that is needed is a different Bodykit.

hhl

8 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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aren't replicas such as ferrari 355, lamborghini, porsche etc illegal. Dont the brands care that their cars are being copied in such a blatent way.

Has any1 thought about this b4?

Newromancer

703 posts

263 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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I know that they are legal, but must pass the permission test.

My guess would be that you can get the bodykits only without the Badges. When they look only a little bit different, it will be hard to get them for Copyright violation of the design. (And they look different.)

And the badge? Well my guess is the guy who buys it has to run into the next tuning shop and buys the stickers by himself.

F1ACK

6 posts

229 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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Cheers Deathbyfish, I'll have to look into that.

As for what replica kits are available these are all replicas that were at the Donny show on Sunday.
The pictures were all taken by a friend of mine who until I said it was strange to see a replica 355 with the bonnet up thought they were all real (even with the italian replica club sign above them)







and finally the 355, which I think if it wasn't for the wheels would have actually fooled me. Most replica kits look good from the back but this one even worked from the front


not sure if this one is a rep or not as I don't realy know what to look for, but it looks a lot of fun either way



As to building a rep, don't do it if your motivation is to impress your mates, as said I don't think it will. If your building it yourself they will know as it is a lot of work and takes a lot of hours, plus probably £12,000. If your getting one built by a company, you need £20,000 cash before even thinking about insurance and petrol. Not saying not to do it, but its not something that you want to be doing just to show off to ya mates.

As for people laughing at you, yeah, some people probably will, if thats something that bothers you again, don't build one. Every car I own has had a few people laughing at it saying its stupid and a few people saying its amazing and excellent, if you do anything different some people will laugh at it. Persoanlly I'd rather that than jumping into a clio or 106 or mondeo and driving along next to another one that looks identical, then another then another. I'd rather have a car that is special to me, and a car that makes me feel good when I drive it, if other people don't like it, then they can move out the way and laugh as I blast past them (remembering that a turbo MR2 even standard will still beat 95% of the cars on the road)

>> Edited by F1ACK on Wednesday 13th April 15:48

deathbyfish

207 posts

238 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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yeah, very well said. i've had people make fun of all my cars, my black nova was called the batmobile! (and yes i did get called batman! ) by a lot of people i knew. people took the piss out of my ginetta, generally because it was a bit crap! and i've just bought a westfeild, so i'll assume some people will laugh at it. but then you get just as many people will compliment you (even the gineta!).

seen that white lambo before acouple of times, its really nice! not sure about that ferrari being a replica, i think it is but then most of the f40 replicas were really crap. this one doesnt look all that bad. but image wheels and wingmirors look a bit like kitcar bits!

Ferg

15,242 posts

258 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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All replicas?

What is the replica Ultima based on???

gtr-gaz

5,096 posts

247 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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Ferg said:
All replicas?

What is the replica Ultima based on???




I was wondering that too, Ferg!!
3rd pic down looks suspiciously like my GTR, apart from colour

Ferg

15,242 posts

258 months

Wednesday 13th April 2005
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I believe a lot of Ultimas are scrapped as donors for Libras.