Discussion
At the time of 'shall I shall I not' with the Murtaya, I had hillclimb AST suspension on my Impreza.
Neil had some special springs in the making as the springs on the car would be far too hard with the much lighter Murtaya.
Best thing about the Impreza is it's fundamental suppleness to ride all surfaces, damping rates as much as basic spring rates.
Neil had some special springs in the making as the springs on the car would be far too hard with the much lighter Murtaya.
Best thing about the Impreza is it's fundamental suppleness to ride all surfaces, damping rates as much as basic spring rates.
singlecoil said:
Just a thought, what sheme are these cars being tested under? There's one scheme for a manufacturer, and another for self builds.
To qualify for either a new or an age related plate, there will have to be good documentation of all the parts used, receipts etc. For a new reg obviously the receipts will have to indicate that the parts are new, for an age related there will have to be a certain number of parts all from the same donor vehicle (the age of which will provide the age related part of the registration. There will still have to be receipts for the other parts, of course.
i was promised a new plate but as my parts are from at least 2 donors as it appears most murtayas are i will likely end up with an age related plate although arden are trying for a new plate i do not have much hope which will leave me with a much older valueless car compared to newer plates-for example nik was trying to sell his 09 plate for ~£40,000 while complete kit car with M plate sold for £19,000 after a year on sale!To qualify for either a new or an age related plate, there will have to be good documentation of all the parts used, receipts etc. For a new reg obviously the receipts will have to indicate that the parts are new, for an age related there will have to be a certain number of parts all from the same donor vehicle (the age of which will provide the age related part of the registration. There will still have to be receipts for the other parts, of course.
martin
GTRCLIVE said:
very nice vid love the car on the wall new age dials in the murtaya-interesting you have gone TMIC as most are going FMIC as top scoop does not supply much air so limited to 265bhp at best so now i have ended up coughing up more money for FMIC lolmartin
ps i think your murt needs a duster lol
[quote=Crazy Eddie]My car came out at 1084kg with no driver but £20 of fuel in it and the 6 speed box so the weights are pretty good - no point in me spending too much on weight reduction though when a cheap diet would be the best way for me to get under the 100kg mark!
I've not had the car long enough to start writing a report as Nick has done so will get some miles under my belt first but initial thoughts are that the performance is there (although clutch is slipping a bit and either the mapping isn't quite right or there is an air leak somewhere), need to do some finishing touches to get the car to look the price suspension is setup far too hard for the English roads and I think 17" wheels would suit the handling better then the current 18" IMHO of course.
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i thought yours was the carbon fibre monocoque?
where did your clutch come from same place as mine scoobybits?jase still has not replied re clutch speedo queries....
what suspension is on yours??
martin
I've not had the car long enough to start writing a report as Nick has done so will get some miles under my belt first but initial thoughts are that the performance is there (although clutch is slipping a bit and either the mapping isn't quite right or there is an air leak somewhere), need to do some finishing touches to get the car to look the price suspension is setup far too hard for the English roads and I think 17" wheels would suit the handling better then the current 18" IMHO of course.
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i thought yours was the carbon fibre monocoque?
where did your clutch come from same place as mine scoobybits?jase still has not replied re clutch speedo queries....
what suspension is on yours??
martin
No need, the point I'm making is that the difference in value between a kit with a new registration and one with an age related or even Q might not be as bad as it would seem. It's one thing to ask £40K (or whatever) but it's something else to actually get it, and a well made kit with good bits in it will command a decent price. That price is virtually never as much as the original buyer spent, though, whatever the reg.
Eddie,
I've built a track only/hillclimb murt, on a shake down trackday alloy wish bones were moving backwards under braking,found mounting point to grp was cause had to reinforce subframe to spread load to bulkhead.
[was running slicks an huge brakes though] Tom from AMS helped.Otherwise awesome car
I've built a track only/hillclimb murt, on a shake down trackday alloy wish bones were moving backwards under braking,found mounting point to grp was cause had to reinforce subframe to spread load to bulkhead.
[was running slicks an huge brakes though] Tom from AMS helped.Otherwise awesome car
Cheers Nick, yeah the doors have started to sag already and the shut lines aren't ideal which are a couple of the "finishing touches" I mentioned.
jacko I second the request for the photos please for the rear support as that definately needs looking into and to be honest I think that under engine braking the rear diff is hitting the read mount somewhere so I need to address that.
I did have a schoolboy error of shutting the door with the keys in the ignition and was full of panic that I was going to be stuck at the petrol station looking like a tool but luckily I had my house keys on me and they opened the door for me!!!! So need to address security
I'm looking forward to the season but naturally can't quite explain my mindset seeing as I'm doing these finishing touches myself on a built car, albeit from AMS and Arden between them but both parties have been pretty helpful so far and so if these get sorted out I'll be one happy bunny so fingures crossed for good after care.
I will have a play with the dampers first but i think you may be right about the spring rates because if these are too hard the dampening isn't going to help too much.
Will keep you informed and am resisting the tempation to take it on track prematurely - MUST LISTEN TO HEAD NOT HEART!!
jacko I second the request for the photos please for the rear support as that definately needs looking into and to be honest I think that under engine braking the rear diff is hitting the read mount somewhere so I need to address that.
I did have a schoolboy error of shutting the door with the keys in the ignition and was full of panic that I was going to be stuck at the petrol station looking like a tool but luckily I had my house keys on me and they opened the door for me!!!! So need to address security
I'm looking forward to the season but naturally can't quite explain my mindset seeing as I'm doing these finishing touches myself on a built car, albeit from AMS and Arden between them but both parties have been pretty helpful so far and so if these get sorted out I'll be one happy bunny so fingures crossed for good after care.
I will have a play with the dampers first but i think you may be right about the spring rates because if these are too hard the dampening isn't going to help too much.
Will keep you informed and am resisting the tempation to take it on track prematurely - MUST LISTEN TO HEAD NOT HEART!!
[/quote]Yup, as I would expect. It's a kitcar.
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That car I believe was not a factory build and used all donor parts from a old Sti.It had a age related plate and quiet a low spec. with standard 260 bhp. The interior of the car also needed attention as it was peeling trim. (correct me if I am wrong). So unfair really to judge all Murtayas on that one self build. Factory builds on a new plate are going to hold a lot more value.
Kit car magazines where all raving about the car saying how good it was when compared to the other kit cars out there. Only now that Adrenaline was forced into financial difficulties one or 2 may be slagging them about how they dealt with the financial wows. The car itself is awesome.
Ferg said:
p1doc said:
...for less than it cost to build-not including the free labour!!
Yup, as I would expect. It's a kitcar.jamesG20V6 said:
Ferg said:
p1doc said:
...for less than it cost to build-not including the free labour!!
Yup, as I would expect. It's a kitcar.I think there are two feasible business models for kit cars at the moment- the first is the 7 or similar at prices which most people could run to, even if it takes them a while, and the second is an expensive kit car that is actually faster then the Porsche.
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