KIT DESIGN CONTEST- REBODY AN MX5 OR MR2
Discussion
Italo,
I know this is about the MR2/MX5 but I wonder if you have thought about the Porsche Boxster. It is just a little shorter than the MR2 but does have the 6 cylinder.
All your designs seem to incorporate a hardtop, I wonder if you have done anything as a convertible? What about witha little stretch of 7 inches or so.
Thanks,
James
I know this is about the MR2/MX5 but I wonder if you have thought about the Porsche Boxster. It is just a little shorter than the MR2 but does have the 6 cylinder.
All your designs seem to incorporate a hardtop, I wonder if you have done anything as a convertible? What about witha little stretch of 7 inches or so.
Thanks,
James
The Boxter would be far too expensive to use. Plus the MR2 can easily be tweeked up with the turbo version apparently being tuned up to 700bhp. (not sure how reliable that would be though.
I'll keep everyone posted on the movements of veranti. For now though Im just enjoying this one.
Jon
I'll keep everyone posted on the movements of veranti. For now though Im just enjoying this one.
Jon
Jonty99 said:
The Boxter would be far too expensive to use. Plus the MR2 can easily be tweeked up with the turbo version apparently being tuned up to 700bhp. (not sure how reliable that would be though.
I'll keep everyone posted on the movements of veranti. For now though Im just enjoying this one.
Jon
I'll keep everyone posted on the movements of veranti. For now though Im just enjoying this one.
Jon
Actually, here in the US the Boxster is not too terribly expensive. Granted it is more than the Toyota but the interior is much nicer and you have the 6 cylinder. I see them for around $15K US for a 2002 with minor body damage.
James
cloudbaseracer said:
Italo,
I know this is about the MR2/MX5 but I wonder if you have thought about the Porsche Boxster. It is just a little shorter than the MR2 but does have the 6 cylinder.
All your designs seem to incorporate a hardtop, I wonder if you have done anything as a convertible? What about witha little stretch of 7 inches or so.
Thanks,
James
I know this is about the MR2/MX5 but I wonder if you have thought about the Porsche Boxster. It is just a little shorter than the MR2 but does have the 6 cylinder.
All your designs seem to incorporate a hardtop, I wonder if you have done anything as a convertible? What about witha little stretch of 7 inches or so.
Thanks,
James
James
I like your idea, I would also like to see something of a boxter rebody......I thought tha maybe you could open up a new thread in here, for a porsche boxter rebody design, and have all the interested designers come up with a few sketches.....that would be a nice challenge for all of us!
Italo
Jonty99 said:
The Boxter would be far too expensive to use. Plus the MR2 can easily be tweeked up with the turbo version apparently being tuned up to 700bhp. (not sure how reliable that would be though.
I'll keep everyone posted on the movements of veranti. For now though Im just enjoying this one.
Jon
I'll keep everyone posted on the movements of veranti. For now though Im just enjoying this one.
Jon
For a more sensible and reliable sportscar approach, nothing beats the Mr2 spyder or the Mx5.
I would stick with both these two platforms for any rebody, and if a few smart kitcar manufacturers wanted to invest in a new project/design, these would be the platforms to consider.
A huge potential market is out there, it just needs a few brave souls, like Veranti and a few others that are catching up..........will see what happens in 2007...
Jonty99 said:
Dont suppose one of those would fit in a big envelope and post across the Atlantic cheaply would it? If so, please send me one! I'm sure there is something I can come up with!
There is already the Kit for them to turn it into a Carrera GT.
There is already the Kit for them to turn it into a Carrera GT.
The kit isn't inexpensive though. It sure is nice looking! BTW, early boxsters here are now in the low 20K Cdn$ range. So as long as you can find one that has now been abused and now leaking (lots of non-porsche fanciers bought them and didn't take care of them) it could make for a suitable donor.
I am intrigued however by the idea of using a Miata (north america name for MX5) for the mechanical bits, with a space frame and producing a "scaled down" DB9/F 550/2 door Panamera like coupe... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Trevor
Trevor - I agree entirely with you. I think there is plenty of scope there to come up with something really like a dinky GT car ( a modern GT6?)
Ideally not a replica of anything specific - just inspired by the lines of DBR9, F550 etc..
Only potential problem is just the proportions: Looking at the car in profile, the car is split into roughly thirds (bonnet to A pillar, cabin, rear deck) which is at odds with a
GT cars that are more in favour of a longer bonnet and short rear overhangs.
Love to see some sketches though as these things no doubt can be solved?
Ideally not a replica of anything specific - just inspired by the lines of DBR9, F550 etc..
Only potential problem is just the proportions: Looking at the car in profile, the car is split into roughly thirds (bonnet to A pillar, cabin, rear deck) which is at odds with a
GT cars that are more in favour of a longer bonnet and short rear overhangs.
Love to see some sketches though as these things no doubt can be solved?
Grudgonpin..... Exactly !! 
My sketching skills are awful, altho if I have a sketch I am not bad at fabbing a near scale model...
I suspect the looks are all in the proportions, The MBG-GT looked right, even tho it was much smaller than the F550/575, DBR9, et.al.. Of course if you wanted to drop a lug of an engine like a Chevy v8 in it, all bets are off.
Trevor
My sketching skills are awful, altho if I have a sketch I am not bad at fabbing a near scale model... I suspect the looks are all in the proportions, The MBG-GT looked right, even tho it was much smaller than the F550/575, DBR9, et.al.. Of course if you wanted to drop a lug of an engine like a Chevy v8 in it, all bets are off.
Trevor
gudgeonpin said:
Trevor - I agree entirely with you. I think there is plenty of scope there to come up with something really like a dinky GT car ( a modern GT6?)
Ideally not a replica of anything specific - just inspired by the lines of DBR9, F550 etc..
Love to see some sketches though as these things no doubt can be solved?
Ideally not a replica of anything specific - just inspired by the lines of DBR9, F550 etc..
Love to see some sketches though as these things no doubt can be solved?
Is this a design brief for someone..
, I like this idea very much, and it makes a lot of sense on the mx5........yup, all too often a lightweight sportscar gets lumped with a V8, which stuffs the original ethos: think Fisher Fury V8, Westfield SEIGHT.. even MX5's have had Chevy V8 crate engines squeezed under the bonnet.
Anyhow, getting back to the small GT idea - last year a mini-marcos parked next to our tent at Le Mans. Not a pretty thing, but in amongst big exotics like lambos, ferraris etc, it really stood out as a car that made a fair bit of sense, particularly as the owner's entire camping gear could be carried under the rear glass hatch.
More than that it still looked pretty special; low, sporty.. I guess fairly cheap and, dare I say it , could serve as a realistic daily driver.
(A Smart Brabus Roadster gets close to the same concept but is stupidly overpriced and not quite low and sexy enough to the 'GT' ideal. More importantly it is not a kitcar..).
The only thing close would be the superb (but stubby) GTM Libra, but from what I can tell that is still a pricey option - hence a decent modern GT body that can be fitted over an existing 7-type chassis (and there are loads out there) might well fill a gap in the market.
(Well, in my opinion anyway!!)
Anyhow, getting back to the small GT idea - last year a mini-marcos parked next to our tent at Le Mans. Not a pretty thing, but in amongst big exotics like lambos, ferraris etc, it really stood out as a car that made a fair bit of sense, particularly as the owner's entire camping gear could be carried under the rear glass hatch.
More than that it still looked pretty special; low, sporty.. I guess fairly cheap and, dare I say it , could serve as a realistic daily driver.
(A Smart Brabus Roadster gets close to the same concept but is stupidly overpriced and not quite low and sexy enough to the 'GT' ideal. More importantly it is not a kitcar..).
The only thing close would be the superb (but stubby) GTM Libra, but from what I can tell that is still a pricey option - hence a decent modern GT body that can be fitted over an existing 7-type chassis (and there are loads out there) might well fill a gap in the market.
(Well, in my opinion anyway!!)
gudgeonpin said:
yup, all too often a lightweight sportscar gets lumped with a V8, which stuffs the original ethos: think Fisher Fury V8, Westfield SEIGHT.. even MX5's have had Chevy V8 crate engines squeezed under the bonnet.
An American V8 certianly sounds nice, but............
gudgeonpin said:
Anyhow, getting back to the small GT idea - last year a mini-marcos parked next to our tent at Le Mans. Not a pretty thing, but in amongst big exotics like lambos, ferraris etc, it really stood out as a car that made a fair bit of sense, particularly as the owner's entire camping gear could be carried under the rear glass hatch.
You did know that a Mini Macros competed in the 24Hrs back in the 60's. And finished !
On a side note, I am going to make the trek to the mecca of endurance racing this coming June. Haven't worked out the details once I land in the UK (ie: come to get over to LeMans, where to stay, etc, etc, etc...). It's been a desire since I saw the Gulf liveried 917's on TV and then in the Steve McQueen movie... been a long wait.
gudgeonpin said:
The only thing close would be the superb (but stubby) GTM Libra, but from what I can tell that is still a pricey option - hence a decent modern GT body that can be fitted over an existing 7-type chassis (and there are loads out there) might well fill a gap in the market.
I like the idea of the GTM, just isn't the right donor parts available here in Canada. But change to LHD, stuff a VAG 1.8T chipped four in it, give it bigger headlights (just a personal thing, but these little pee hole headlights just look wrong to me), build in a decent roll cage and I'm on my way to Targa Newfoundland ( www.targanewfoundland.com )
I too look forward to Italo's sketches....
Edited by trevorc on Wednesday 13th December 02:53
Edited by trevorc on Wednesday 13th December 02:54
The AGM WLR is an interesting one to consider, having a GT body (albeit open-top) on a Seven chassis (started out on a modified MK Indy 7 chassis).
The styling is a too flinty-looking for my particular taste, but the fresh thinking is great. (see www.agmsportscars.co.uk ).
Maybe a Cyana or Westfield SDV chassis (the MX5 version) and use as a chassis to build a similar (and pretty looking) closed GT version? Could be murder to get in and out of though, but gull wing or fly-doors may solve that one.
The styling is a too flinty-looking for my particular taste, but the fresh thinking is great. (see www.agmsportscars.co.uk ).
Maybe a Cyana or Westfield SDV chassis (the MX5 version) and use as a chassis to build a similar (and pretty looking) closed GT version? Could be murder to get in and out of though, but gull wing or fly-doors may solve that one.
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