Murtaya

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p1doc

3,131 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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singlecoil said:
Ferg said:
Not sure what everyone is quoting me for.
I was just pointing out that you don't home-build kitcars and hope to make a profit.
Very true, and you won't make a profit commissioning a factory build either, in fact that will usually be quite a bit worse loss-wise.
is that for builder or customer lol
sa boy-got email rejected as spam??
martin

singlecoil

33,846 posts

247 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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p1doc said:
singlecoil said:
Ferg said:
Not sure what everyone is quoting me for.
I was just pointing out that you don't home-build kitcars and hope to make a profit.
Very true, and you won't make a profit commissioning a factory build either, in fact that will usually be quite a bit worse loss-wise.
is that for builder or customer lol
sa boy-got email rejected as spam??
martin
That will be for the customer, as I expect you have surmised. If the builder doesn't make a profit then he's got his sums wrong.

Moogle

257 posts

171 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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If anyone is taking their Murtaya to Brands I'd love to spectate and check the car out....

murtayanl

37 posts

171 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Hi All,

I'm new to pistionheads, and like to briefly introduce myself.
I own a murtaya for about two years now. And it's been road legal since march 2009.
I'am dutch an the car is a left hand drive. I build the car completely myself.

I'am absolutely gutted to hear about Neil's troubles.
He's somebody with a real passion for cars and have made a brilliant car.
I really hope he can somehow recover from this, and is able to get back into sadle of adrenaline motorsports.

I noticed some of you guys had some questions about the weight of the car.
On my website I have some weight info about various parts of the car.
www.murtaya.nl (then goto specification)
My murtaya weighs about 1020Kg now. I think the "production" version of the GRP parts are actually a bit heavier then the first proto car made by adrenaline themselves. Which explains the differences.
Also the 6 speed gearbox is MUCH heavier then the 5 speed.

Bart

Edited by murtayanl on Wednesday 17th February 19:42

SA boy

661 posts

191 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Hi Bart

I have seen pics of your car and it looks great. How are you getting on with it? Is it as much fun as you had anticipated?

Ian

Ps Martin my spam folder is empty. Could you try again?
Cheers

p1doc

3,131 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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murtayanl said:
Hi All,

I'm new to pistionheads, and like to briefly introduce myself.
I own a murtaya for about two years now. And it's been road legal since march 2009.
I'am dutch an the car is a left hand drive. I build the car completely myself.

I'am absolutely gutted to hear about Neil's troubles.
He's somebody with a real passion for cars and have made a brilliant car.
I really hope he can somehow recover from this, and is able to get back into sadle of adrenaline motorsports.

I noticed some of you guys had some questions about the weight of the car.
On my website I have some weight info about various parts of the car.
www.murtaya.nl (then goto specification)
My murtaya weighs about 1020Kg now. I think the "production" version of the GRP parts are actually a bit heavier then the first proto car made by adrenaline themselves. Which explains the differences.
Also the 6 speed gearbox is MUCH heavier then the 5 speed.

Bart

Edited by murtayanl on Wednesday 17th February 19:42
very impressive site and build-well done!
martin

p1doc

3,131 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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SA boy said:
Hi Bart

I have seen pics of your car and it looks great. How are you getting on with it? Is it as much fun as you had anticipated?

Ian

Ps Martin my spam folder is empty. Could you try again?
Cheers
my spam folder rejected your email! this morning unless it is a true spam email that has used yoyr details!!
martin

p1doc

3,131 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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my car has got 365bhp on high map but simtek is version 1.4 so needs to be updated to get launch anti lag and switchable map via switch rather than throttle pedal and it has a minor oil leak so 1 prob sorted 2 created lol
martin

murtayanl

37 posts

171 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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SA boy said:
Hi Bart

I have seen pics of your car and it looks great. How are you getting on with it? Is it as much fun as you had anticipated?

Ian

Ps Martin my spam folder is empty. Could you try again?
Cheers
Thanks, and Yes the car just puts a smile on your face.
I allready have taken it to two kind of track days.
It was more a low speed handling circuit.
I could really improve my confidence level in the car there and also learned a lot about improving its handling. (it really needs a rear anti roll bar.)

I now have put a 2.5 sti engine in the car and I can't wait for the winter to leave, so I can finish the mapping of the car.
I had to use an alternative ecu (adaptronic) but I haven't regretted it sofar.
The car has about 350HP. (kind of limited due to the 5 speed box not able to handle any more.) but man this car is quick.

p1doc

3,131 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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martyn at engine tuner was running over 500bhp through his type r gearbox for nearly a year before it went bang!-are you thinking PPG or 6 speed then?
my injectors are maxing out so safe high map is 365 low map is 300 and as new clutch gearbox should hold,do you have dual maps on your ecu?
neil reckoned high spec versions would need rear antiroll bar but not sure of size though as standard one has none!which is bizarre as normally first mod on a scooby lol
martin
ps mine is planned for nurburgring/spa/knockhill/crail!

Edited by p1doc on Wednesday 17th February 21:50

SA boy

661 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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Hi Martin
Could you send pics to : projectedone@googlemail.com

Thanks
Ian

Bart
Its nice to hear that the car is putting a smile on your face. I hear that from almost everyone who has one. I cant wait to get mine. Its been a long painful wait but at least it should be good once I get it.lol

Edited by SA boy on Thursday 18th February 11:16

p1doc

3,131 posts

185 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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very long and very painful lol
pics sent ian
could you ask neil to reply to last email re help he has offered
martin

SA boy

661 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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I haven't really got that kind of access to Neil. I e-mail him and he answers after a few days. I don't think he has daily access to a comp.

Ian

Enginetuner

3 posts

171 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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Re the Murtaya. It was a project we were very happy to be involved with. The car is brilliant, and my first reaction to Neil after driving one was that it was the right car at the right time.
I drove the prototype a great deal, showing the way round at Castle Combe Japfest for a start, being clearly faster than just about anything else out there. I also drove it at Trax Silverstone, posting a 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, and on a couple of occasions at Llandow.
The design was a winner from the start, looking good, and with just a little work giving excellent balance from the normally understeering Subaru 4WD. I'm a commited RWD sort, and I still haven't found anything 4WD to match the Murtaya on the track, having stacks of grip and very controllable on the limit.
Component cars are a risky line of work, borne out by history. The Murtaya is most certainly the best I've ever driven in 30 years of performance car tuning.
Neil's commitment can't be doubted. I sincerely hope he's able to get over the effects on his life.
He's the kind of chap you like to have a drink with, which means more in the long run when the great book is opened I think!

p1doc

3,131 posts

185 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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what little work would you recommend alan??
looking forward to seeing my car mon if snow lets up-pics/dyno look great
a lot of people are going for rear arb size anyone??
sa boy-pics sent,mark pics sent
martin

Edited by p1doc on Friday 19th February 09:15

Enginetuner

3 posts

171 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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Only the sort of thing you'd do with any car you were going to track, just personal preference really. An example might be to use the dccd gearbox to give that rear bias a touch. I'd say a really well sorted one would be an absolute joy.

jacko503

85 posts

173 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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Hi Eddie an SA Boy here's pic of subframe mod



Ferg

15,242 posts

258 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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Has anyone got a 'Before' picture?

p1doc

3,131 posts

185 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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better pic than mine lol,i also sent pic of your bonnet mod to stop bonnet lifting!
martin

jacko503

85 posts

173 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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the horizontal an the diagonal bars are the mods vertical is standard