KIT DESIGN CONTEST- REBODY AN MX5 OR MR2
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If I had not just been to the toilet I would be p****** myself right now after looking at that! Scaled down Shelby GT? More like crashed-into-a-wall-at-high-speed Shelby GT!
Whoever built it as obviously got some talent, as i have said before its no more effort to build a pretty car than an ugly one. Its the designing they do wrong. He should have shown pictures to 10 strangers in the street, I am sure one of them would have cracked up. What the hell is going on with the bonnet?????
Whoever built it as obviously got some talent, as i have said before its no more effort to build a pretty car than an ugly one. Its the designing they do wrong. He should have shown pictures to 10 strangers in the street, I am sure one of them would have cracked up. What the hell is going on with the bonnet?????
Edited by Furyblade_Lee on Monday 17th July 18:27
These are fast rough sketches, just to get the topic going, for a more aggressive coupe body conversion based on the Toyota mr2 .
I took these images from the PH classifieds, and want to thank the owner for his great artistic eye and car.
The idea is to shorten the rear overhang, and add a few fiberglass panels to hide the rear 3/4 glass., redesign the front bumper with a different front opening, bigger side air intakes and wheel arches.
I would call this a mild body conversion, without major changes apart from the rear shortening .
I will show a rear 3/4 view of the car , hopefully by tomorrow...
Let me know what you think of this first attempt, but I guess you could design so many different shapes over this platform.
I took these images from the PH classifieds, and want to thank the owner for his great artistic eye and car.
The idea is to shorten the rear overhang, and add a few fiberglass panels to hide the rear 3/4 glass., redesign the front bumper with a different front opening, bigger side air intakes and wheel arches.
I would call this a mild body conversion, without major changes apart from the rear shortening .
I will show a rear 3/4 view of the car , hopefully by tomorrow...
Let me know what you think of this first attempt, but I guess you could design so many different shapes over this platform.
Edited by fuoriserie on Tuesday 18th July 17:00
g32turbo said:
Really can't see the point. The MR2 is a good looking sportscar in its own right. If you want to spend your time doing something really useful, try making a Wagon R look good.
I see your point, but this thread was born from thie following :
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=30&t=274610&h=0
The point was to create a cheaper kitcar body conversion , using an existing platform like the Mr2 or mazda mx5.
This should hopefully create a new and cheaper niche in the kitcar industry, while having more unique designs, but utilising an existing car and available technology.
I believe the Wagon R is interesting little car and in dire need of a styling update, but I can hardly see it been taken by the kitcar Industry as your next sportscar design update....but if you think it useful, let me know what body conversion do you envision for the Wagon R, I will gladly show you a few rough sketches, time permitting offcourse!
Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 20th July 11:18
Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 20th July 11:19
fuoriserie said:
The point was to create a cheaper kitcar body conversion , using an existing platform like the Mr2 or mazda mx5.
This should hopefully create a new and cheaper niche in the kitcar industry
This should hopefully create a new and cheaper niche in the kitcar industry
But why would a kitcar builder want to create a sportscar from a ....... sportscar?
Is this really aimed at a niche in the kitcar industry or an existing spoiler/bodykit market? Although not a fan of scoops, spoilers and splitters I can see why someone might want to make their standard hatchback look sportier by adding a kit. I can see no logical reason for spending money turning a good looking sportscar into an equally good looking sportscar unless on the grounds of individuality. However if its individuality you'd sell your designs on then the market would be severely limited as the more kits you sell, the less exclusive they become.
If you really want to exploit a niche in the kitcar market try designing a coupe body to fit an existing 7 inspired chassis. A miniature Ultima perhaps.
[quote=g32turbo I can see no logical reason for spending money turning a good looking sportscar into an equally good looking sportscar unless on the grounds of individuality. However if its individuality you'd sell your designs on then the market would be severely limited as the more kits you sell, the less exclusive they become.
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Fair enough, and I agree with you on the above comment, that was discussed at length in past threads, ( read Kitcar Outlook or the Crisis threads) .
read :
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=5&f=30&t=177552&h=0
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=7&f=30&t=180769&h=0
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=3&f=30&t=257644&h=0
The problem is that if the Kitcar industry wants to evolve and expand, it needs to cater to a younger crowd, that is a little less skilled or has less time in building from the ground up a regular kitcar.
By using an existing platform, and modyfing the shape with a new body, maybe you could have the interest of mr2 owners who would like something more individual than, just continue adding on spolers, wings and scoops.
This would be a new body shape on the same car.
It's just an idea that quite a few manufacturers have started pursuing, but I'm sure it won't be the only one.
Just a way to get in and potentially expand the existing kitcar niche, going through a restructuring process.
This is just one of various ideas we have been discussing of late, and the coupe seven was discussed in past threads( see Kitcar design), maybe a mini Ultima wasn't considered.
You could create an original and interesting coupe out of a Mx5, maybe looking like a Jaguar F-type ?
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Fair enough, and I agree with you on the above comment, that was discussed at length in past threads, ( read Kitcar Outlook or the Crisis threads) .
read :
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=5&f=30&t=177552&h=0
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=7&f=30&t=180769&h=0
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=3&f=30&t=257644&h=0
The problem is that if the Kitcar industry wants to evolve and expand, it needs to cater to a younger crowd, that is a little less skilled or has less time in building from the ground up a regular kitcar.
By using an existing platform, and modyfing the shape with a new body, maybe you could have the interest of mr2 owners who would like something more individual than, just continue adding on spolers, wings and scoops.
This would be a new body shape on the same car.
It's just an idea that quite a few manufacturers have started pursuing, but I'm sure it won't be the only one.
Just a way to get in and potentially expand the existing kitcar niche, going through a restructuring process.
This is just one of various ideas we have been discussing of late, and the coupe seven was discussed in past threads( see Kitcar design), maybe a mini Ultima wasn't considered.
You could create an original and interesting coupe out of a Mx5, maybe looking like a Jaguar F-type ?
Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 20th July 15:20
Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 20th July 15:21
Edited by fuoriserie on Thursday 20th July 15:24
g32turbo said:
But why would a kitcar builder want to create a sportscar from a ....... sportscar?
Good point - I mean why would you want underpinnings that have had millions spent on their development, extreme hot/cold climate testing and had reliability and performance proven over a period of over 15 years plus a huge add on/upgrade aftermarket parts and servicing industry to......er, say.......oh I don't know, maybe a collection of different suspension parts thrown together in a small factory unit somewhere where the end purchasers will be unwittingly providing their services as testers/developers over the ensuing years of manufacture?!
g32turbo said:
I can see no logical reason for spending money turning a good looking sportscar into an equally good looking sportscar unless on the grounds of individuality.
Come on, even when it was current, the MR2 was no beauty queen - interesting granted but by no means an attractive car. The designs put forward are far more 'beautiful' than the base car IMHO.
g32turbo said:
However if its individuality you'd sell your designs on then the market would be severely limited as the more kits you sell, the less exclusive they become.
Good point - has anyone told Noble, Ultima, Ruff hell Lambo or even Ferrari that they should be out of business by now, LOL!
g32turbo said:
If you really want to exploit a niche in the kitcar market try designing a coupe body to fit an existing 7 inspired chassis. A miniature Ultima perhaps.
Yes, I believe it's called an Exige
Of course I'm being very tongue in cheek above but I must admit to not being able to follow your thinking at all on this one. Rebodying is just the kitcar industry coming full circle from the boom in the 70's where you had choice from loads of different whacky (wobbly!) bodyshells as long as they were mated to a veedub floorpan. The most likely reason for this 'homecoming' I suspect is SVA and it's potential avoidance through rebodying. To build an authentic cobra now takes pretty much 2 completely separate builds, one for SVA then the post SVA rebuild to reinstate all those lovely non compound radius parts, dangerous spinners etc. etc.! MR2's are cheap plentiful, but still agile and tunable in turbo guise by todays standards - why not ditch the dated clothes and have something altogether more exciting?
You don't throw the bed out just because you've still got chintz covers on it!
keep up the designs!!
Love the half louvre rear btw Edited by smash on Thursday 20th July 17:16
smash said:
g32turbo said:
However if its individuality you'd sell your designs on then the market would be severely limited as the more kits you sell, the less exclusive they become.
Good point - has anyone told Noble, Ultima, Ruff hell Lambo or even Ferrari that they should be out of business by now, LOL!
Agreed, but the likes of those you mention can charge big bucks for small volumes so exclusivity is maintained. How many people are going to pay really big bucks for an MX5 body kit? Very few I suspect so it needs to be big volumes for small bucks and exclusivity is gone.
I'm not decrying this idea at all, just playing devils advocate to stimulate a more balanced debate.
Go on, show me a design that looks a little bit Ultima on an MR2. OK so the lack of wrap around screen and cockpit size will be wrong but wide arches and door skins could create an acceptable illusion.
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