Three wheeler Cabin Scooter Design
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911hillclimber said:
The only trick bit is the glass work now at a realistic cost/tooling?
Plastic is not durable enough for day to day use even as side glass where visibility is king esp in certain sunlight conditions where scratching blinds the user.
I've simplified the design futher just to make it feasible.....Plastic is not durable enough for day to day use even as side glass where visibility is king esp in certain sunlight conditions where scratching blinds the user.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/environment/27...
did anybody know about the Dolphin Concept threewheler project ?
did anybody know about the Dolphin Concept threewheler project ?
Vindi_andy said:
Italo,
Been following this thread with interest partly due to the fact that you are heavily involed in it (love your stuff) and partly because I think f done right this sort of thing has real potential.
The one point the has come up recently is escape. Personally I carry an escape device in my car which has a retractable spike for bursting airbags (your m/c probably wont have any anyway) a conealed blade for slitting the seatbelt and a hammer for breaking glass. Gives me peace of mind but hope never to use it. Got it very cheap tho and you could probably include one prefitted in every machine. I realise that its a finishing touch but the idea was active on the thread so thought Id comment.
Ill see if I can find a manufaturer to see if you could do a bulk deal and if the car doesnt take off you can always sell the for a small profit anyway
Thanks Andy for comment....Been following this thread with interest partly due to the fact that you are heavily involed in it (love your stuff) and partly because I think f done right this sort of thing has real potential.
The one point the has come up recently is escape. Personally I carry an escape device in my car which has a retractable spike for bursting airbags (your m/c probably wont have any anyway) a conealed blade for slitting the seatbelt and a hammer for breaking glass. Gives me peace of mind but hope never to use it. Got it very cheap tho and you could probably include one prefitted in every machine. I realise that its a finishing touch but the idea was active on the thread so thought Id comment.
Ill see if I can find a manufaturer to see if you could do a bulk deal and if the car doesnt take off you can always sell the for a small profit anyway
, I like your idea and should be considered on the options list. Safety is important, especially in such small vehicles.NDT said:
robcollingridge said:
Here we go, found a picture:
Rob
That looks exactly like the Prodrive NARO concept from a few years ago (while I worked there).Rob
From reading the blurb, the Smera has powered leaning (like the Carver) while the NARO was free-leaning - in other words it leant like a bike, with counter steering needed. The main area of work was on the control system that superimposed the countersteer over the car-style* steering input.
- i.e. steer left to go left, rather than steer right then left to go left, like on a bike.
http://www.naro.co.uk/index2.htm
I'm not sure i would like such a tall vehicle.....
Interesting piece of info from the NARO website, and if true, as i think it is, quite a few kitcar manufacturers should look into this potential new niche........
It could also be marketing speak to get financial backing....
, but even if it were a quarter from what predicted, it should make for some sales activity.
The NARO Market
The automotive industry business experts Prof. Garel Rhys and Dr. Paul Nieuwenhuis of Cardiff University Centre for Automotive Industry Research has predicted that the UK Market size for this ‘sub-car’ sector will grow progressively to 20,000/year by 2012. This will be fueled by: increasing congestion, ultra low CO2 requirements, parking scarcity, and financial incentives (e.g. freedom from congestion charging). The cutting edge styling and rewarding driver experience of Naro will ensure that it secures a significant place in this market sector.
It could also be marketing speak to get financial backing....
, but even if it were a quarter from what predicted, it should make for some sales activity.The NARO Market
The automotive industry business experts Prof. Garel Rhys and Dr. Paul Nieuwenhuis of Cardiff University Centre for Automotive Industry Research has predicted that the UK Market size for this ‘sub-car’ sector will grow progressively to 20,000/year by 2012. This will be fueled by: increasing congestion, ultra low CO2 requirements, parking scarcity, and financial incentives (e.g. freedom from congestion charging). The cutting edge styling and rewarding driver experience of Naro will ensure that it secures a significant place in this market sector.
Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 23 February 16:06
Partners to this project were some of the best companies in the UK Automotive industry.
http://www.naro.co.uk/index2.htm
http://www.naro.co.uk/index2.htm
911hillclimber said:
Too tall and too narrow = unstable before you get into it even.
The original sketch for me is the best design proportion which I think is why it struck such an accord with us all!
Old engineering addage:
If it looks right it probably is.
it does have four wheels though, but I agree with you, if it looks right, it probably is....eventhough the final design for the first prototype is going to be different.The original sketch for me is the best design proportion which I think is why it struck such an accord with us all!
Old engineering addage:
If it looks right it probably is.
Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 23 February 20:22
skwdenyer said:
911hillclimber said:
Old engineering addage:
If it looks right it probably is.
: "if you've got to measure an improvement, you haven't got one!". It is often forgotten by engineers and designers, but it is the very essence of selling products to real-life consumers.If it looks right it probably is.
qdos said:
It's fantastic to see so much positive interest in this type of vehicle I've been convinced they could make a comeback for years. Don't know how many of you have noticed the price of fuel slowly creeping up week by week. As I've said earlier on in the discussion it's crazy really that we crawl around in such big heavy steel boxes all the time. Sure they are sensible for family transport but how often do you use one to transport the entire family? Also how many cars are there sat outside the family house? Doesn't it make sense that one of them is a vehicle like this?
Most of us in this discussion are petrol heads and all love flash cars so it's great to see us all chatting and discussing these machines too
I totally agree with you.........I guess we're changing, maybe we're starting to realize that for you everyday use, you need something simple and economical to run, inexpensive to buy for your daily commutes, amd then have fun on the weekends with your sportscar......Most of us in this discussion are petrol heads and all love flash cars so it's great to see us all chatting and discussing these machines too
Edited by qdos on Tuesday 24th February 08:26
In my opinion, Lowcost is key to such a project, otherwise it wouldn't make sense, most people woild buy a used second hand citycar instead of a new 3wheeler.
A Reverse gear idea....:
http://www.mride.se/reverse_gear.html
and buy the way, this threewheler is awesome in its design and build.....
http://www.mride.se/reverse_gear.html
and buy the way, this threewheler is awesome in its design and build.....
Edited by fuoriserie on Tuesday 24th February 09:00
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