1967 Tuscan V8

1967 Tuscan V8

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GTRene

16,834 posts

226 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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TSP3 said:
Hi

Does anyone have a photo of Robert Nosowicz's ex-Martin Lilley wide-body Tuscan V8 and

do you know the colour and reg number of the car when Martin Lilley owned it?
I've looked a bit around in some of my TVR books and documents but can't find it back...

now I think I know were it is...
it was in a series of books from A to Z all cars many books and there was also a TVR part in that...
I sold the series of books so had to include the TVR part too to keep it complete...

never seen such nice Tuscan V8 me thinks...
I believe it had 2 colours top was some silver-ish and under half was some sort purple-isch metallic?
also the letters SE on the side and wire wheels it was the LWB and was ML version so the later version, I believe it also had some extra power.
And was parked on grit? at some nice estate...number plate was ML500 if I'm correct.

so sadly I can't copy it...that series books from A to Z I've sold a few years ago.

ah...it was in this series>>



and then the book from: Auto Totaal, part>> Engelse sportwagens

ah, found the book, I think that info and picture is in that book>>



there were 27 in that series

http://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus/boeken/boekenreek...

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

193 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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500 ML was a SWB Tuscan SE. The burgundy colour was Rolls Royce Regal Red....if memory serves?

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

284 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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TVR_owner said:
500 ML was a SWB Tuscan SE. The burgundy colour was Rolls Royce Regal Red....if memory serves?
And being restored and in the paint shop as we speak, allegedly if you are referring to the car on front cover of Robsons Collectors Guide "The TVRs, Grantura to Tasmin" 1981, the green front cover edition

GTRene

16,834 posts

226 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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you guys mean this book?



if so then that is not the car I meant...

and now I doubt what the plate text was...maybe it was not ML500 but saw that somewere else nerd

maybe beginning next year I will order a new (second hand) copy of those books, I already saw they sell those on a Dutch website also 1 from the collection of 25 I believe.
I saw a book of that English sport-cars (Engelse sportwagens) were also TVR has some pages in it, with lovely pictures (but all writing is in Dutch)

Never seen that/those Tuscan V8 SE pictures anywhere else.

Edited by GTRene on Friday 28th December 14:33

Astacus

3,403 posts

236 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Newer edition



Edited by Astacus on Monday 24th December 23:26

GTRene

16,834 posts

226 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Astacus said:
Newer edition



Edited by Astacus on Monday 24th December 23:26
I have that edition also in my house, but thats certainly not the car I try to explain, its way more special and nice? those pictures of the car are really wow...
if I order and have the book with I hope the pictures I try to scan those in to share biggrin I wonder were that car is and or what became of it.
it has 2 colours, top half is a grey/silver colour and bottom half is purple/pink mix?? loll, anyway special and I remember the letters SE on the side pillar?

Slow M

2,741 posts

208 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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luckycarter said:
Heres a colour shot of the Noscowitz car. Dont know if the reg was differant when Lilley owned it
Amazing picture. Thanks for sharing it.

http://regarchive.com/plate/SPP216J said:
This registration was first registered during the period August 1970 to July 1971.

The registration was first registered in Buckinghamshire.
Best,
B.

Slow M

2,741 posts

208 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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Astacus said:


very poor scan from the Robson book, page 51. Hope that helps a bit

smile
It's amazing what magnification can do. That's a 302 Boss. Easy to know, once you can see the shape of the valve covers.

Does that make two, or is it the same car we discussed on another thread?

Best,
B.

Edited by Slow M on Saturday 31st May 06:26

Slow M

2,741 posts

208 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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Gregor Marshall said:
SILVERSTONE AUCTIONS said:
The Tuscan was initially offered with just a V8 engine option, but in 1969 a less thirsty V6 engine option was offered. TVR built just 174 Tuscans, 101 featuring the cheaper V6 engine; the V8 option was discontinued in 1970 after demand for the V8 configuration fell. In total, it is believed that just 73 V8 engined cars were sold by TVR.
Where did those numbers come from?

Best,
B.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

193 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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thegamekeeper said:
And being restored and in the paint shop as we speak, allegedly if you are referring to the car on front cover of Robsons Collectors Guide "The TVRs, Grantura to Tasmin" 1981, the green front cover edition
Same car allegedly. Last time I saw it, the car was quite fresh from a Niel Leafie Sp? restoration, but that was over 30 years ago when even Colin Lyons was fresh faced loon.

I understood the car was still in the same ownership, a Mr Bagnell Oakly.

Merry Christmas by the way smile

luckycarter

158 posts

278 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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The picture is from the November 1981 issue of Hot Car, heres an engine shot. They test the car at Brands Hatch in the Mag.

Slow M

2,741 posts

208 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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That's awfully nice!

According to an old Russian dog torturer, someone just rang my dinner bell.

Best,
B.

GTRene

16,834 posts

226 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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TSP3 said:
GTRene said:
in my book it looks different...
the instrument panel below the switches is different in the book of the original TVR Tuscan V8 short-wheelbase...
also with 271hp its a Tuscan V8 SE...the normal Tuscan V8 had 195hp so the book says.

also Martin Lilley's own car is in the book with licence plate "500 ML" and restored, in that picture the roof is a closed version so no hole, and the side-vents as in this for sale car.
also the 500 ML had no extra bonnet-vents ala Ferrari GTO

there's also a picture in the book which says....
Robert Nosowicz's ex-Martin Lilley wide-body Tuscan V8 which shows the large aperture? in the glass fibre roof which is normally filled by a Perspex panel.

also another picture which says ML's ex car is only one of just 2 RHD wide-body Tuscan V8's

strange thing thou is are the side vents of that ex ML car...they are different, they have the vents of the 2500M models...

so I guess that 200-035 is not ML's car
Hi

Does anyone have a photo of Robert Nosowicz's ex-Martin Lilley wide-body Tuscan V8 and

do you know the colour and reg number of the car when Martin Lilley owned it?
I've got my hands on a book from a Dutch series of car books (made in 1990 or so) with also a TVR part and some lovely pics, tough all writing is in Dutch...

It was indeed Martin Lilley's car as what I thought that 500-ML and also one of the early onces, I thought one of the later with other rear lights, but you see, I'm getting old and my memories are euh...anyway the car, both pictures are from that car so also the drawing was made of that example>>




davepen

1,460 posts

272 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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GTRene said:
TSP3 said:
GTRene said:
there's also a picture in the book which says....
Robert Nosowicz's ex-Martin Lilley wide-body Tuscan V8
Does anyone have a photo of Robert Nosowicz's ex-Martin Lilley wide-body Tuscan V8 and
do you know the colour and reg number of the car when Martin Lilley owned it?
It was indeed Martin Lilley's car as what I thought that 500-ML and also one of the early onces.
500ML is SWB car, and is pictured in the Tippler picture books next to PBB17F, a LWB car.

The new Filby (Passion to Succeed) has two pictures of the Noswowicz car on page 174. One is the same as that from luckycarter shown above. Filby says that Martin's Wide Bodied car was yellow. Both Passion to Succeed (pg173) and Filby's first edition from 1976 "Success Against the Odds" (pg 147) have a picture of "SPY90" although in Passion he says it is an unknown car "in TVR circles".

heightswitch

6,319 posts

252 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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There is a long wheelbase car in matching colours to 500ML IE Tuscan SE, Which was also restored by Neil lefley I think but may be wrong. I have a picture of it somewhere?
N.

GTRene

16,834 posts

226 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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I have not read the newer TVR Books yet, just beginning in Peter Filby's part one and now on page 25 or so biggrin
but what a great read so far, lovely books those later ones.
searched the page you mentioned in part 2 page 174 a passion to succeed and that car lookes more like the later version although they mentioning ML but my guess is that that car is a later version? see bonnet and side and rear lights and hole in roof et?

But in the same book (maybe there is more but did a quick look) on page 81 there is this same car I posted (duo colour) and from page 74 to 81 its also mentioned and pictured. (nice books )

they also mentioning those few Tuscan's with the mk1 rear lights are sort or less Griffith's (like the 400) but then with some new bit and minor changes sort or less as I understood it.

Terminator

2,421 posts

286 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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This is the car featured on the front of the original Collector's Guide by Robson, along with the Taimar of Dave Alvey, then RO for mid-Kent and the Tasmin of Mike Traxton, then RO of West Essex.

I took the photo in October 2001 at the TVRCCNA Woodwork show in New Jersey. The car was owned by a chap from Tennessee, who told me that he bought it from Hayes Harris (Wirewheel) and, as it was RHD and looked correct, I have no evidence to dispute what I was told. I

John (TVR_owner) and I saw 500ML and PBB17F at the kit car/Marcos show at Donnington in 1982. Neil Leftley owned them both and sold the former to Jeremy Bagnell-Oakley and the latter to Vic Brookes.

smokin2

luckycarter

158 posts

278 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Hi Colin,
I think the car belonged to a guy called Ferell Preston. It was the ex- Chris Camp car OLD 37 E, it was for sale on Wirewheel.com some years back and i think it is back in Europe now as attached

luckycarter

158 posts

278 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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and from behind

Terminator

2,421 posts

286 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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luckycarter said:
Hi Colin,
I think the car belonged to a guy called Ferell Preston. It was the ex- Chris Camp car OLD 37 E, it was for sale on Wirewheel.com some years back and i think it is back in Europe now as attached
Richard, you're correct of course. Ferell told me he'd never sell it, and to a Frenchman makes it even worse wink