RE: New TVR racer hits the track

RE: New TVR racer hits the track

Friday 12th January 2007

New TVR racer hits the track

Legendary Tuscan's replacement arrives?


GTF/TVR Monster
GTF/TVR Monster
There's a new Sagaris-inspired racing car in the works -- and you could buy one. What's more, it could be the future of TVR racing, replacing the robust but ageing TVR Tuscan. TVR itself withdrew from supporting racing in 2005.

As a one-off test for the concept, GTF Motorsport has taken a TVR Tuscan racer and updated it by draping the chassis and drivetrain in a Sagaris-alike GRP body, adding downforce from the rear wing/front splitter and extra grip from Dunlop Racing slicks. It's topped with a strong bespoke roll cage from Roll Centre -- itself an experienced TVR racing organisation.

GTF also plans to launch a second car, the GTF 600R, later this year that'll be an evolution of the car shown here. And that'll be the car you can buy.

The drivetrain, engine, gearbox, differential have been modified specifically for the GTF 600R by ProMaster to ensure maximum power and reliability, with a secure and cost effective supply line for the future. Upfront there will be a modified Chevrolet LS2 6-litre V8 producing in excess of 500bhp with torque curves to match. With an all up race weight of 900Kg, performance will surpass even that of the mighty Tuscan Challenge racer.

It'll sport a dry sump system with engine power transmitted through a low-inertia, twin plate clutch, the standard Chevy flywheel being discarded for a much smaller, lighter component. This allows the LS2 to spin more quickly and its smaller diameter has allowed the engine to sit much lower in the car than would otherwise be possible, improving cornering speeds with a lower centre of gravity.

The 600R will be fitted with a six-speed sequential gearbox, designed for competition use and capable of transmitting 600Nm of torque. A prototype has already been fitted to one racing car and has endured a full season of racing with zero failures. A second generation ‘box has been designed and is now production ready. This features its own internal oil pump, which allows oil to be circulated around a cooling system to keep oil temperature at an acceptable level -- particularly useful for some of the endurance races for which the car has been designed to run.

Finally, a bespoke differential has been designed for the car, using the Ford nine-inch crown wheel and pinion, which are readily available allowing almost any ratio to be chosen. The casing has an internally driven oil pump; again for endurance racing and a viscous type of limited slip unit has been developed for the differential by Ricardo Transmissions. Tests with this unit has proved very successful, giving the car excellent turn in at high speed and allowing early application of power without the front end of the car pushing on.

The current Sagaris by GTF Motorsport and the first GTF 600R will be continuing their development on the circuit in 2007. The cars can be seen racing in the “BRSCC Dunlop Tuscan Challenge” plus selected endurance races this season. So check out the calendar for an event near you and go along and see them in action. They look and sound superb -- and really shift.

Prices can’t be finalised until the car is fully developed and production-ready, said GTF, which described the potential price range as "very attractive indeed. If you drive a Porsche or a Sagaris, you can probably afford one."

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Road_Terrorist

Original Poster:

5,591 posts

244 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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article said:
LS2 6-litre V8 producing in excess of 500bhp with torque curves to match. With an all up race weight of 900Kg


Similar power to weight ratio as a McLaren F1, I guess it might be fairly quick then eek

Podie

46,632 posts

277 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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article said:

As a one-off test for the concept, GTF Motorsport has taken a TVR Tuscan racer and updated it by draping the chassis and drivetrain in a Sagaris-alike GRP body, adding downforce from the rear wing/front splitter...


scratchchin Isn't that basically what Andy Holden did last year..?

columbo

387 posts

210 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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looks like a Toyota grille though?

hui

1,025 posts

250 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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No,Podie.... it was Tim Hood not Andy - unless you are thinking of the car Andy had in development last year...??

Mrs Hui



Edited by hui on Friday 12th January 13:28

CTE

1,490 posts

242 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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At last, someone has put a chevvy LS engine in a TVR (apart from the odd private conversion).

ATG

20,738 posts

274 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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Begs the question, what has this car really got to do with a TVR? It has a bespoke body and all the oily bits from the engine to the differential have been replaced.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

227 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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Am I the only person seeing an RX-8 from the front??

AmenToThat

83 posts

240 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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I for one would be very interested in one as a road car...

- Race proven dynamics

- Reliable (certainly in TVR terms) Powerplant

- Lots of possible tuning options (although 500bhp is probably enough to be starting with )

....what more could you want.

Now the only question is, would I be able to afford one scratchchin do you think they would do trade in on the GF?

Podie

46,632 posts

277 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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hui said:
No,Podie.... it was Tim Hood not Andy - unless you are thinking of the car Andy had in development last year...??

Mrs Hui



Edited by hui on Friday 12th January 13:28


Andy Holden drove the black car... not sure who built it...

Sure it was at Castle Combe... when Cliff "rolled" the Tasmin...


Edited by Podie on Friday 12th January 13:43

racingsnake

1,071 posts

227 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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Grounhog day: RT Racings Thorpedo wedge beat that by two years!
If the S6 was so good why are all the racing Sag's V8's?
*It was Tim Hood in the black Sagaris/Tuscan V8 I saw at Oulton last year.

GlynnsportRacing

306 posts

232 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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racingsnake said:
Grounhog day: RT Racings Thorpedo wedge beat that by two years!
If the S6 was so good why are all the racing Sag's V8's?
*It was Tim Hood in the black Sagaris/Tuscan V8 I saw at Oulton last year.



You're correct, the black one is indeed Tim Hood's. My one is now virtually finished and should be out for testing in Feb'. Andy Holden is also building one for this coming season, not sure how far he's got yet.

In terms of engine etc, to start with, I shall be using the AJP8 with the T5 gearbox and hydratrak diff, pretty much as Tim's black one was last year, although he does have the benefit of a sequential gear box which is brilliant. As it's an updated evolution of the Tuscan Challenge car, no thought was ever put to using the speed 6 engine for racing them, but simply keeping the race engine as it is now. However, the move to the chevy engine could be very interesting indeed and should certainly enable to car to be competitive with endurance racing and not just 20 min sprints.

Should be a very exciting year ahead. See you at the tracks. Cheers,
Steve

s6boy

1,635 posts

227 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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PhantomPH said:
Am I the only person seeing an RX-8 from the front??

Yes


Edited by s6boy on Friday 12th January 14:41

hui

1,025 posts

250 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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There are some pics of Tim Hood's car and other TVR's at Castle Combe on this post from last year.


www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=265601&f=38&h=0

Mrs Hui

Podie

46,632 posts

277 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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hui said:
There are some pics of Tim Hood's car and other TVR's at Castle Combe on this post from last year.


www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=265601&f=38&h=0

Mrs Hui


I'll get me coat... hehe

kaiser77

75 posts

209 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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Reminds me of a Marcos

Paul V

4,489 posts

279 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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AmenToThat said:
I for one would be very interested in one as a road car...

- Race proven dynamics

- Reliable (certainly in TVR terms) Powerplant

- Lots of possible tuning options (although 500bhp is probably enough to be starting with )

....what more could you want.

Now the only question is, would I be able to afford one scratchchin do you think they would do trade in on the GF?



Was thinking the same thing when I read it, as for trading in the GF not sure but could depend on look/mileage etc

Steve_T

6,356 posts

274 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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I'd love to see a grid of these racing. Proper monsters picking up where the Tuscans left off! Definitely going to find the stand at the show on Sunday. thumbup

Steve.

qube_TA

8,402 posts

247 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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I bet that's fairly scary.

Want one

al 450

1,390 posts

223 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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Yes! Sod racing, when can I buy one for the road?

cronk-flakes

3,480 posts

255 months

Friday 12th January 2007
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eww....whats with the crappy rx-8 fishmouth?

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PhantomPH said:
Am I the only person seeing an RX-8 from the front??


Do'h! Beaten to it, anyways, I agree with you on this...


Edited by cronk-flakes on Friday 12th January 18:14