Alonso leaving McLaren
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Why doesn't Ron stick Gary Paffett in the car next year??
I'm sure he'd be a great number 2 (oh sorry - equal driver...) and with his testing/development experience they'd be covered on that side as well.
And I'm sure he'd be a bit cheaper than some of the others - and with a one year deal Ron gets to keep his options open for 2009.
Chris
I'm sure he'd be a great number 2 (oh sorry - equal driver...) and with his testing/development experience they'd be covered on that side as well.
And I'm sure he'd be a bit cheaper than some of the others - and with a one year deal Ron gets to keep his options open for 2009.
Chris
Flipatron said:
TuxMan said:
roll on Jenson would be great to see him in a great car !!!!
Has Jenson ever produced a class overtake in his entire career? I can't think of any. Don't believe the boy has the balls to pass.Teppic said:
Autosport.com said:
According to the newspaper (The Guardian), former Toyota driver Ralf Schumacher was among those expressing interest in driving for McLaren but the German was reportedly informed he is not on the squad's shortlist.
Can't think why...BigBen said:
Flipatron said:
TuxMan said:
roll on Jenson would be great to see him in a great car !!!!
Has Jenson ever produced a class overtake in his entire career? I can't think of any. Don't believe the boy has the balls to pass.Ben
stew-S160 said:
Teppic said:
Autosport.com said:
According to the newspaper (The Guardian), former Toyota driver Ralf Schumacher was among those expressing interest in driving for McLaren but the German was reportedly informed he is not on the squad's shortlist.
Can't think why...GregE240 said:
I heard Ralf was going to BSM.
To wash cars.
Let's be fair, he's still farking loaded. Quite how he's managed to coin so much dollar from a frankly tepid career and 'dregs of the gene pool' talent must be a testament to the managerial brilliance of Willi Weber. They'll both be laughing all the way to the other sides of their own massive houses in Switzerland.To wash cars.
skinny said:
kovy hasn't got enough experience to partner lewis in mclaren, don't think it's a good idea to have two rookies challenging for the titles, despite having experienced testers for development.
Both Heikki and Lewis have a season of racing under their belts and HK did a stack of testing the previous year at Renault - If anything I'd say he's more experienced!Paffett is good, but I don't think he's a serious contender for a race drive. He's not been a consistant tester for them (unlike PDLR for example) and I think he's missed the boat as far as F1 is concerned.
Flipatron said:
TuxMan said:
Has Jenson ever produced a class overtake in his entire career? I can't think of any. Don't believe the boy has the balls to pass.
I'd respectfully have to disagree with this statement.How about his work in the first 3 laps of the European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring this year? 17th to 4th in 3 laps: I'm guessing he overtook at least a couple of people.
Or how about his pass on Kimi Raikkonen in Brazil last year? Into turn 1, from a long way back - not quite as far back as Hamilton's pass on Rubens this year, but close; and Kimi isn't exactly an easy man to pass - just ask Lewis Hamilton...
Or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrk44vOWZQg - a move on Alonso, back when Honda knew how to make a decent car?
Or this column: http://www.autosport.com/journal/article.php/id/11... - written by a man who isn't prone to b****hit and is in a position to actually observe Jenson's driving first-hand.
Edited by hostile17 on Tuesday 6th November 15:16
hostile17 said:
Flipatron said:
TuxMan said:
Has Jenson ever produced a class overtake in his entire career? I can't think of any. Don't believe the boy has the balls to pass.
I'd respectfully have to disagree with this statement.How about his work in the first 3 laps of the European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring this year? 17th to 4th in 3 laps: I'm guessing he overtook at least a couple of people.
Or how about his pass on Kimi Raikkonen in Brazil last year? Into turn 1, from a long way back - not quite as far back as Hamilton's pass on Rubens this year, but close; and Kimi isn't exactly an easy man to pass - just ask Lewis Hamilton...
Or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrk44vOWZQg - a move on Alonso, back when Honda knew how to make a decent car?
Or this column: http://www.autosport.com/journal/article.php/id/11... - written by a man who isn't prone to b****hit and is in a position to actually observe Jenson's driving first-hand.
Edited by hostile17 on Tuesday 6th November 15:16
Edited by nioks for talking bo**ox!
Edited by nioks on Tuesday 6th November 15:30
nioks said:
A wee bit disingenuous there. That was a re-pass. Alonso has him coming out of the hairpin at Magny Cours at the beginning of that clip, and Jens has him back on the next corner. He must have been asleep to allow the first move!
It was at Hockenheim Im not sure its fair to say he was asleep either, at the very start of the sequence before the clip starts, Alonso was in front. Button got a run on Alonso into the hairpin to overtake him as the clip starts, which meant he was on the inside line which obviously compromises exit speed and allowed Alonso to get back up the inside of him on the exit. Add in the fact that the Renaults of that vintage had markedly better traction out of slow speed corners than anyone else its hardly suprising Alonso got back past on the exit. It doesn't mean Jenson particularly did anything wrong, no more than Alonso did anything wrong in the second part of the sequence.
All this whilst having to fight with a loose / faulty chinstrap on his helmet which meant he had to take one hand off the wheel to hold his helmet steady on the straights which must have been a bit of a distraction.
Edited by LocoBlade on Tuesday 6th November 20:54
hostile17 said:
Flipatron said:
TuxMan said:
Has Jenson ever produced a class overtake in his entire career? I can't think of any. Don't believe the boy has the balls to pass.
I'd respectfully have to disagree with this statement.How about his work in the first 3 laps of the European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring this year? 17th to 4th in 3 laps: I'm guessing he overtook at least a couple of people.
Or how about his pass on Kimi Raikkonen in Brazil last year? Into turn 1, from a long way back - not quite as far back as Hamilton's pass on Rubens this year, but close; and Kimi isn't exactly an easy man to pass - just ask Lewis Hamilton...
Or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrk44vOWZQg - a move on Alonso, back when Honda knew how to make a decent car?
Or this column: http://www.autosport.com/journal/article.php/id/11... - written by a man who isn't prone to b****hit and is in a position to actually observe Jenson's driving first-hand.
Edited by hostile17 on Tuesday 6th November 15:16
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