RE: Loeb can't help but win
Discussion
ukaskew said:
NGK210 said:
A damn shame the FIA wouldn't grant him a Super Licence, thus blocking his switch to F1
Presumably there is nothing stopping him doing a season in British F3 and gaining his licence the old fashioned way, I would hazard a guess that if he really wanted to drive in F1 he would have created an opportunity for himself by now, I can't imagine funding would be an issue.emicen said:
ukaskew said:
NGK210 said:
A damn shame the FIA wouldn't grant him a Super Licence, thus blocking his switch to F1
Presumably there is nothing stopping him doing a season in British F3 and gaining his licence the old fashioned way, I would hazard a guess that if he really wanted to drive in F1 he would have created an opportunity for himself by now, I can't imagine funding would be an issue.They haven't done a formal announce as the car he'll be driving isn't public yet.
He's doing 4 events in WRC this year as well as racing a McLaren MP4-12C in GT Sprint.
C
ETA by next year, I mean 2014.
Edited by CraigyMc on Monday 21st January 13:26
CraigyMc said:
emicen said:
ukaskew said:
NGK210 said:
A damn shame the FIA wouldn't grant him a Super Licence, thus blocking his switch to F1
Presumably there is nothing stopping him doing a season in British F3 and gaining his licence the old fashioned way, I would hazard a guess that if he really wanted to drive in F1 he would have created an opportunity for himself by now, I can't imagine funding would be an issue.They haven't done a formal announce as the car he'll be driving isn't public yet.
He's doing 4 events in WRC this year as well as racing a McLaren MP4-12C in GT Sprint.
C
ETA by next year, I mean 2014.
Edited by CraigyMc on Monday 21st January 13:26
They rejected this on the grounds he doesnt have relevant experience for a super licence. In the years since then, he hasnt been able to go away and garner relevant experience by doing things like GP2 or F3 as he has been doing full seasons in WRC.
Now that he has the time to do them, it might be more realistic, although age wise, the boat may have sailed.
His WTCC and GT racing plans this year and next dont detract from the fact in recent years he was trying to make things happen for an F1 drive but it wasnt realistic whilst still doing the job that paid the bills.
CraigyMc said:
emicen said:
ukaskew said:
NGK210 said:
A damn shame the FIA wouldn't grant him a Super Licence, thus blocking his switch to F1
Presumably there is nothing stopping him doing a season in British F3 and gaining his licence the old fashioned way, I would hazard a guess that if he really wanted to drive in F1 he would have created an opportunity for himself by now, I can't imagine funding would be an issue.They haven't done a formal announce as the car he'll be driving isn't public yet.
He's doing 4 events in WRC this year as well as racing a McLaren MP4-12C in GT Sprint.
C
ETA by next year, I mean 2014.
Edited by CraigyMc on Monday 21st January 13:26
sisu said:
This is cockblocking at its best. As much as I admire Loeb, his suave style. Roll up to practice in a Lamborghini, shag the PR girls then win the race. He has to let the others get some action.
While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
LAD ! While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
BlackpoolRock said:
sisu said:
This is cockblocking at its best. As much as I admire Loeb, his suave style. Roll up to practice in a Lamborghini, shag the PR girls then win the race. He has to let the others get some action.
While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
LAD ! While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
emicen said:
He has been trying to create an opportunity but doing full WRC seasons largely puts the brakes on doing an F3/GP2 season.
Ma Qing Hua gained his licence despite a staggeringly unremarkable career so far, as I understood it two days driving around Silverstone in an HRT several seconds slower Max Chilton was all he needed. Are the requirements, erm, 'flexible'?ukaskew said:
emicen said:
He has been trying to create an opportunity but doing full WRC seasons largely puts the brakes on doing an F3/GP2 season.
Ma Qing Hua gained his licence despite a staggeringly unremarkable career so far, as I understood it two days driving around Silverstone in an HRT several seconds slower Max Chilton was all he needed. Are the requirements, erm, 'flexible'?FIA said:
5. Qualification and conditions of issue for the Super Licence
The FIA Formula One Driver Super Licence is issued by the FIA.
5.1 Qualifications
5.1.1 The driver must be the holder of a current FIA International Grade A licence.
5.1.2 The driver must also satisfy at least one of the following requirements:
a) have made at least 5 starts in races counting for the FIA Formula One World Championship for Drivers the previous year, or at least 15 starts within the previous 3 years.
b) have previously held the Super Licence and have been the regular test driver with an F1 World Championship team for the previous year.
c) have been classified, within the previous 2 years, in the first 3 of the final classification of: the F2 Championship, or the International F3 Trophy, or the GP2 Series, or the GP2 Asia Series or the Japanese F/Nippon Championship,
d) have been classified in the first 4 of the final classification of the Indycar IRL series within the previous 2 years,
e) be the current champion of one of the following:
- Formula 3 Euro Series
- The principal national F3 championships of: Great Britain, Italy, Japan, Spain
- World Series F/Renault V6
N.B.: the title of Champion is considered valid for 12 months from the last race of the relevant series or championship season.
f) be judged by the FIA to have consistently demonstrated outstanding ability in single-seater formula cars, but with no opportunity to qualify under any of c) to e) above. In this case the F1 team concerned must show that the applicant has driven at least 300 km in a current Formula One car consistently at racing speeds, over a maximum period of 2 days, completed not more than 90 days prior to the application and certified by the ASN of the country in which the test took place.
By exception, if supported by the FIA Safety Commission, the FIA World Motor Sport Council may approve the issue of the Super Licence to persons judged by the Council to have met the intent of the qualification process
Refer: http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/C30FA5AA9...The FIA Formula One Driver Super Licence is issued by the FIA.
5.1 Qualifications
5.1.1 The driver must be the holder of a current FIA International Grade A licence.
5.1.2 The driver must also satisfy at least one of the following requirements:
a) have made at least 5 starts in races counting for the FIA Formula One World Championship for Drivers the previous year, or at least 15 starts within the previous 3 years.
b) have previously held the Super Licence and have been the regular test driver with an F1 World Championship team for the previous year.
c) have been classified, within the previous 2 years, in the first 3 of the final classification of: the F2 Championship, or the International F3 Trophy, or the GP2 Series, or the GP2 Asia Series or the Japanese F/Nippon Championship,
d) have been classified in the first 4 of the final classification of the Indycar IRL series within the previous 2 years,
e) be the current champion of one of the following:
- Formula 3 Euro Series
- The principal national F3 championships of: Great Britain, Italy, Japan, Spain
- World Series F/Renault V6
N.B.: the title of Champion is considered valid for 12 months from the last race of the relevant series or championship season.
f) be judged by the FIA to have consistently demonstrated outstanding ability in single-seater formula cars, but with no opportunity to qualify under any of c) to e) above. In this case the F1 team concerned must show that the applicant has driven at least 300 km in a current Formula One car consistently at racing speeds, over a maximum period of 2 days, completed not more than 90 days prior to the application and certified by the ASN of the country in which the test took place.
By exception, if supported by the FIA Safety Commission, the FIA World Motor Sport Council may approve the issue of the Super Licence to persons judged by the Council to have met the intent of the qualification process
Baryonyx said:
He is simply the best. The ultimate talent!
I have no doubt he has talent, but is he the ultimate talent. Or, is it just that his competition really isnt up to much?Is it just me that thinks its strange that Filand can currently only offer up two mediocre drivers as competition????? When you think of Finland's motorsport heritage, you cant help but expect better from them
rwindmill said:
Baryonyx said:
He is simply the best. The ultimate talent!
I have no doubt he has talent, but is he the ultimate talent. Or, is it just that his competition really isnt up to much?Is it just me that thinks its strange that Filand can currently only offer up two mediocre drivers as competition????? When you think of Finland's motorsport heritage, you cant help but expect better from them
I don't think a driver at the top of his game in one class is necessarily godlike in all classes, but if you had to have one guy cover off everything, I recon Loeb would have to be on the shortlist.
C
CraigyMc said:
BlackpoolRock said:
sisu said:
This is cockblocking at its best. As much as I admire Loeb, his suave style. Roll up to practice in a Lamborghini, shag the PR girls then win the race. He has to let the others get some action.
While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
LAD ! While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
The bd.
I just wish he'd done his final season in anything other than a Citroen. Whilst he's clearly an incredible talent, he should have done a Rossi and gone for winning two WCs on two different machines. Now his swap may have been a Ducati or a Yamaha, but I think he played it too safe. How much was Loeb and how much was the car?
sisu said:
This is cockblocking at its best. As much as I admire Loeb, his suave style. Roll up to practice in a Lamborghini, shag the PR girls then win the race. He has to let the others get some action.
While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
Please don't try and tell me that's not exactly what you would do if you were in his shoes? I just don't get the sniping here. He is a world class sportsman, no one comes close, he is young and healthy, why the hell not enjoy yourself? There are hundreds of non deserving footballists living it large for a few years!While the other drivers are busy training and practicing the routes, trying to get the setup sorted for the next race. Pleading with sponsors to stay with them.
Sebastian is doing this...
rhinochopig said:
I just wish he'd done his final season in anything other than a Citroen. Whilst he's clearly an incredible talent, he should have done a Rossi and gone for winning two WCs on two different machines. Now his swap may have been a Ducati or a Yamaha, but I think he played it too safe. How much was Loeb and how much was the car?
Not much I don't think. He's beaten Sainz, McRae, Sordo, Hirvonen and Ogier in (what is purported to be) equal machinery. He's an absolute force of nature. Gassing Station | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff