2024: BTCC chat & discussion
Discussion
GlobalRacer said:
They are only 4 cars off the size of grid they want for the series though. Personally I'm really enjoying it so far. Yes the points are a bit odd but it's the same for everyone, it's not as though someone is gaining an advantage by the smaller grid.
Given the state of the economy over the last year and the massive price rises all businesses are having to deal with I'm amazed they managed to get 20 cars to be honest. The cheaper TCR series didn't get that many.
Same, I'm enjoying this year so far.Given the state of the economy over the last year and the massive price rises all businesses are having to deal with I'm amazed they managed to get 20 cars to be honest. The cheaper TCR series didn't get that many.
Also great to see Turkington back at the front, clearly happier with the car this year.
Disappointed that chilton was let away with his last race lunge, a real act of desperation as he knew Sutton was about to pass him. ATS should have challenged that as a podium would have been huge for their team and letting Chilton away just sets the standard going forward.
Interested to see if Huff settles down, not going great for him so far between qualifying and races and with a best showing of 6th place sits last of the 4 Toyotas in the table. Not a great return considering all they hype.
Interested to see if Huff settles down, not going great for him so far between qualifying and races and with a best showing of 6th place sits last of the 4 Toyotas in the table. Not a great return considering all they hype.
acer12 said:
Disappointed that chilton was let away with his last race lunge, a real act of desperation as he knew Sutton was about to pass him. ATS should have challenged that as a podium would have been huge for their team and letting Chilton away just sets the standard going forward.
Interested to see if Huff settles down, not going great for him so far between qualifying and races and with a best showing of 6th place sits last of the 4 Toyotas in the table. Not a great return considering all they hype.
I can understand Huffy taking a little while to bed in, he hasn't raced at most of the circuits in years.Interested to see if Huff settles down, not going great for him so far between qualifying and races and with a best showing of 6th place sits last of the 4 Toyotas in the table. Not a great return considering all they hype.
I am more interested in Dan Cammish's performance at the moment. I very much like him as a driver, but I just don't feel he's firing on all cylinders , really since he joined NAPA. Very much capable of the occasional win, but Ash is more consistent. Shades of Hakkinen v Coulthard? I kind of feel the team is biased towards Ash and Dan's head is down a bit.
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I can understand Huffy taking a little while to bed in, he hasn't raced at most of the circuits in years.
I am more interested in Dan Cammish's performance at the moment. I very much like him as a driver, but I just don't feel he's firing on all cylinders , really since he joined NAPA. Very much capable of the occasional win, but Ash is more consistent. Shades of Hakkinen v Coulthard? I kind of feel the team is biased towards Ash and Dan's head is down a bit.
Ash Sutton has given a lot of credit for his success to his race engineer. Sutton always seems to be able to get much more out of any car. I am more interested in Dan Cammish's performance at the moment. I very much like him as a driver, but I just don't feel he's firing on all cylinders , really since he joined NAPA. Very much capable of the occasional win, but Ash is more consistent. Shades of Hakkinen v Coulthard? I kind of feel the team is biased towards Ash and Dan's head is down a bit.
Could it be that this relationship, rather than just Sutton's raw pace, is why Cammish can't consistently compete over the season?
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I can understand Huffy taking a little while to bed in, he hasn't raced at most of the circuits in years.
I am more interested in Dan Cammish's performance at the moment. I very much like him as a driver, but I just don't feel he's firing on all cylinders , really since he joined NAPA. Very much capable of the occasional win, but Ash is more consistent. Shades of Hakkinen v Coulthard? I kind of feel the team is biased towards Ash and Dan's head is down a bit.
I always thought that Dan was a little overrated from his near championship win in 2019, that civic should have walked the championship and Cammish should have had it wrapped up long before the race he had brake failure in. Having the ageing and slowing Matt Neal as a team mate masked how quick the car was which I felt flattered Cammish. I am more interested in Dan Cammish's performance at the moment. I very much like him as a driver, but I just don't feel he's firing on all cylinders , really since he joined NAPA. Very much capable of the occasional win, but Ash is more consistent. Shades of Hakkinen v Coulthard? I kind of feel the team is biased towards Ash and Dan's head is down a bit.
Since Cammish has partnered with a quick team mate he has been exposed and its doing his confidence no good. Once he sees Ash in his mirrors he pulls over, even after only 6 races of this years championship its exactly what he did last weekend showing that he has no confidence in competing for the championship.
acer12 said:
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I can understand Huffy taking a little while to bed in, he hasn't raced at most of the circuits in years.
I am more interested in Dan Cammish's performance at the moment. I very much like him as a driver, but I just don't feel he's firing on all cylinders , really since he joined NAPA. Very much capable of the occasional win, but Ash is more consistent. Shades of Hakkinen v Coulthard? I kind of feel the team is biased towards Ash and Dan's head is down a bit.
I always thought that Dan was a little overrated from his near championship win in 2019, that civic should have walked the championship and Cammish should have had it wrapped up long before the race he had brake failure in. Having the ageing and slowing Matt Neal as a team mate masked how quick the car was which I felt flattered Cammish. I am more interested in Dan Cammish's performance at the moment. I very much like him as a driver, but I just don't feel he's firing on all cylinders , really since he joined NAPA. Very much capable of the occasional win, but Ash is more consistent. Shades of Hakkinen v Coulthard? I kind of feel the team is biased towards Ash and Dan's head is down a bit.
Since Cammish has partnered with a quick team mate he has been exposed and its doing his confidence no good. Once he sees Ash in his mirrors he pulls over, even after only 6 races of this years championship its exactly what he did last weekend showing that he has no confidence in competing for the championship.
Edited by cuprabob on Tuesday 14th May 16:38
GlobalRacer said:
I thought Dan was going really well at Brands even when the puncture (after overtaking Ash) put him on the back foot for the day.
Yeah, the puncture was an absolute body blow. He looked to be flying in that first race.He'll win races this year with a modicum of luck, I'm sure.
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
acer12 said:
Interested to see if Huff settles down, not going great for him so far between qualifying and races and with a best showing of 6th place sits last of the 4 Toyotas in the table. Not a great return considering all they hype.
I can understand Huffy taking a little while to bed in, he hasn't raced at most of the circuits in years.Cook and Moffat are new to the Toyota but have many years experience of NGTC. Watson is new to the Toyota and but just 1 season of racing with the NGTC cars, so is a better marker for Huffs performance so far I think. He seemed to me to be roughly on par with Watsons pace at Brands.
I think the test for whether Huffs year has been a success or not will be if can get to challenging the likes of Sutton, Ingram, Turkington by the end of the season. If he can then that would be a successful year, given all their years of NGTC experience and multiple seasons of stability with the same car and team.
SpudLink said:
Ash Sutton has given a lot of credit for his success to his race engineer. Sutton always seems to be able to get much more out of any car.
Could it be that this relationship, rather than just Sutton's raw pace, is why Cammish can't consistently compete over the season?
Who's responsible for the setup on Suttons car?Could it be that this relationship, rather than just Sutton's raw pace, is why Cammish can't consistently compete over the season?
When we was driving the Subaru's I always felt that the car was setup in a way that perfectly suited his driving style. He switched to the Focus and I thought he'd struggle, but he hasn't. Is it Sutton's raw pace, or do him and his engineer know exactly how to configure the car exactly how he likes it?
I wasn't sure about Sutton as a driver initially, but once he switched to the Focus and was still banging in the performances, my mind was changed.
I've only been watching BTCC for the past 4-5 seasons, so my opinion doesn't carry much weight, but for me, I like Turkington, I just think sometimes he plays it too safe. Ingram (up there with Sutton for me), Sutton, and I though Cammish was decent until Sutton when their.
I'm hoping this year is a three-way fight between Sutton, Turkington and Ingram.
TheBinarySheep said:
SpudLink said:
Ash Sutton has given a lot of credit for his success to his race engineer. Sutton always seems to be able to get much more out of any car.
Could it be that this relationship, rather than just Sutton's raw pace, is why Cammish can't consistently compete over the season?
Who's responsible for the setup on Suttons car?Could it be that this relationship, rather than just Sutton's raw pace, is why Cammish can't consistently compete over the season?
When we was driving the Subaru's I always felt that the car was setup in a way that perfectly suited his driving style. He switched to the Focus and I thought he'd struggle, but he hasn't. Is it Sutton's raw pace, or do him and his engineer know exactly how to configure the car exactly how he likes it?
I wasn't sure about Sutton as a driver initially, but once he switched to the Focus and was still banging in the performances, my mind was changed.
I've only been watching BTCC for the past 4-5 seasons, so my opinion doesn't carry much weight, but for me, I like Turkington, I just think sometimes he plays it too safe. Ingram (up there with Sutton for me), Sutton, and I though Cammish was decent until Sutton when their.
I'm hoping this year is a three-way fight between Sutton, Turkington and Ingram.
king good
Speed Badger said:
Bobby Thompson has got the WSR drive from Snetterton, shame they couldn't get the deal over the line at the start of the season, but should be another driver in the mix for wins.
Great news though... It will be interesting to see how he fares alongside the established WSR chaps.Gassing Station | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff