DTM

Tuesday 8th May 2012

BMW takes first win of its DTM comeback

It's been a long time since BMW tasted the champagne in DTM - the last race of 1992 - but the boys and girls from Munich are back



BMW took its first race win in the DTM for two decades, when Canadian Bruno Spengler won at the Lausitzring over the weekend.


BMW's DTM comeback has already brought a spark of excitement back to touring cars - sufficient for us to make the pilgrimage to Hockenheim the other week to witness the reappearance of BMW at first hand. Now, in only the second round of the series, it's staked a firm claim to be right at the sharp end of the grid.

Spengler bagged pole on Saturday, with Brazilian Augusto Farfus making it a front-row lock-out for BMW. And if that makes it sound like it was a dull lights-to-flag parade for Spengler and his BMW, the fact that Brit Gary Paffett finished just a single second behind in his Mercedes - after 52 laps - rather suggests otherwise...

So that's one win to Mercedes, one win to BMW. Does that mean it's Audi's turn when DTM hits Brands Hatch Indy on 20th May?

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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Why all the fanfare? Where was it when Plato and MG took the lead in the BTCC?
PH - biased sucking of German arse matters!

BBS-LM

3,972 posts

224 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Thanks for putting the result on the front page.

Edited by BBS-LM on Tuesday 8th May 13:10

Lione1 Richie

173 posts

183 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Would any kind fellow enlighten me to the best online location to watch the DTM races?

I'm not after a live feed, just a good site to watch the highlights (I only have council telly you see frown)

Ahonen

5,016 posts

279 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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anonymous said:
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Something to do with the look of the cars, the speed, money, quality of drivers etc, etc.

Most people who want to see BTCC already know it's on - hence the lively debate during each race over who is the dirtiest driver out there.

lindrup119

1,228 posts

143 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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That BMW looks evil.... evil

04mmurkett

224 posts

155 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Am I the only one who wants to see those lights on production BMWs? Phwoar!

325Ti

391 posts

146 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Anybody know what channel shos DTM in the UK?

NotNormal

2,359 posts

214 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Highlights on BBC4

garypotter

1,502 posts

150 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Please Mr BMW make that the shape of the new M3

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Ahonen said:
Something to do with the look of the cars, the speed, money, quality of drivers etc, etc.

Most people who want to see BTCC already know it's on - hence the lively debate during each race over who is the dirtiest driver out there.
So are you saying the BTCC and MG isn't worthy of mention in the PH news section? Perhaps there are PHers who don't really follow BTCC (yet) and may be inspired to with a little snippet of news about it. Using your logic there needs be no report on the DTM on here as those who follow it will already know that news. It seems to me that PH journos are in denial of the BTCC and MG. I would say that MG taking a rehashed Rover or a brand new Chinese car (,however you want to see it)and taking on and beating the established teams is more of an accomplishment than BMW's.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Ahonen said:
Something to do with the look of the cars, the speed, money, quality of drivers etc, etc.

Most people who want to see BTCC already know it's on - hence the lively debate during each race over who is the dirtiest driver out there.
So are you saying the BTCC and MG isn't worthy of mention in the PH news section? Perhaps there are PHers who don't really follow BTCC (yet) and may be inspired to with a little snippet of news about it. Using your logic there needs be no report on the DTM on here as those who follow it will already know that news. It seems to me that PH journos are in denial of the BTCC and MG. I would say that MG taking a rehashed Rover or a brand new Chinese car (,however you want to see it)and taking on and beating the established teams is more of an accomplishment than BMW's.

HighwayStar

4,257 posts

144 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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NotNormal said:
Highlights on BBC4
DTM hightlights are on ITV4, next the last race showing on the 12th, 2230-2300
The races are shown live on ESPN, next live 20th, 1245-1430

ajprice

27,477 posts

196 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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NotNormal said:
Highlights on BBC4 ITV4
Fixed.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Personally I think that it is great to be seeing something on the news that isn’t F1 or BTCC centric.

I can get F1 news many places, I have the BTCC thrown down my throat morning noon and night when trying to find some motorsport to watch.

I am glad that PH is publishing plenty about the DTM this year, a proper domestic touring car championship with real focused manufacture support and some of the best drivers in the World, BTCC in comparison looks like a bunch of repmobiles that have been driven through Halfords (collect almost any engine you like along the way) and has a depth of talent roughly equal to a Stock Hatch race. This is slightly unfair to Stock Hatchers though as they seem to be able to overtake without having to punt the other car off the track first.

Don’t get me wrong I do enjoy watching the odd BTCC race here and there but it just isn’t in the same league as the DTM and sure as hell I would rather see the promotion of F3 or British GT well before another sentence is wasted on the BTCC.

ArnageWRC

2,065 posts

159 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Rude-boy said:
Personally I think that it is great to be seeing something on the news that isn’t F1 or BTCC centric.

I can get F1 news many places, I have the BTCC thrown down my throat morning noon and night when trying to find some motorsport to watch.

I am glad that PH is publishing plenty about the DTM this year, a proper domestic touring car championship with real focused manufacture support and some of the best drivers in the World, BTCC in comparison looks like a bunch of repmobiles that have been driven through Halfords (collect almost any engine you like along the way) and has a depth of talent roughly equal to a Stock Hatch race. This is slightly unfair to Stock Hatchers though as they seem to be able to overtake without having to punt the other car off the track first.

Don’t get me wrong I do enjoy watching the odd BTCC race here and there but it just isn’t in the same league as the DTM and sure as hell I would rather see the promotion of F3 or British GT well before another sentence is wasted on the BTCC.
Blimey, that could have been my post!
The DTM has the best cars, drivers, tracks, sponsors, organisation – virtually everything, except endless overtaking, which people use to beat it. That is what the BTCC is for – motorsport entertainment. It’s like comparing the Premiership with Championship/1st Division football.

Frimley111R

15,661 posts

234 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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ajprice said:
NotNormal said:
Highlights on BBC4 ITV4
Fixed.
Its also on youtube in HD.

Caractacus

2,604 posts

225 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Cracking result, indeed. It was utterly superb to watch first hand and better than the BTCC (that I followed as a spectator for quite some time) by quite some margin (imho).

Can't wait for the rest of the season to unfold! smile

B33FY

87 posts

171 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Rude-boy said:
Personally I think that it is great to be seeing something on the news that isn’t F1 or BTCC centric.

I can get F1 news many places, I have the BTCC thrown down my throat morning noon and night when trying to find some motorsport to watch.

I am glad that PH is publishing plenty about the DTM this year, a proper domestic touring car championship with real focused manufacture support and some of the best drivers in the World, BTCC in comparison looks like a bunch of repmobiles that have been driven through Halfords (collect almost any engine you like along the way) and has a depth of talent roughly equal to a Stock Hatch race. This is slightly unfair to Stock Hatchers though as they seem to be able to overtake without having to punt the other car off the track first.

Don’t get me wrong I do enjoy watching the odd BTCC race here and there but it just isn’t in the same league as the DTM and sure as hell I would rather see the promotion of F3 or British GT well before another sentence is wasted on the BTCC.
Well put Rude Boy its a bit like comparing the clown and the trapeze artist at a circus, they both entertain but on such different levels. I'd much rather watch mastery at work than the likes of a clown like Plato punting Sheddon all the way down a straight then saying he braked early!!

fishman

248 posts

155 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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As an old school die hard BMW fan its great to see them back at the top of the pack again. Agree those lights do look great looking forward to an exciting season ahead biggrin

fishman

248 posts

155 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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B33FY said:
Well put Rude Boy its a bit like comparing the clown and the trapeze artist at a circus, they both entertain but on such different levels. I'd much rather watch mastery at work than the likes of a clown like Plato punting Sheddon all the way down a straight then saying he braked early!!
Agree 100% about Plato being a complete bell end in that race, also recall him cutting a few corner too. Both BTCC and DTM are great motorsports competitions I suppose its a case of each to there own and all that. biggrin