RE: PH2: MotoGP Australia

RE: PH2: MotoGP Australia

Monday 29th October 2012

PH2: MotoGP Australia

Stoner goes out in style with a Phillip Island masterclass in MotoGP



If practice was anything to go by there was little point anyone else turning up at Phillip Island. Injured or not, Stoner rules the island and after giving a riding masterclass during qualifying and practice, Stoner looked destined to bow out of MotoGP with a home win. The fans wanted it, most of the paddock echoed this, and in truth the only chap not wishing Stoner well was Dani Pedrosa who was still desperately needing points to challenge Lorenzo for the title.

The view most had of a dominant Stoner
The view most had of a dominant Stoner
Speaking of the title, with Lorenzo 23 points ahead of Pedrosa the non-miserable Spaniard only needed to finish in front of the slightly smaller and less grumpy one to wrap up the title. Off the line it looked like Jorge meant business but then Dani showed some often missing aggression to barge past and take the lead with Stoner behind. Then it all went horribly wrong for Dani as he fell off - handling the championship to Lorenzo.

Dani on the floor, title chances over and the leash was off Stoner - not that it was really on him anyway. The predictable win came with a nine-second advantage over Lorenzo - Stoner's sixth Phillip Island win and if you watched the slow-motion shots during practice you couldn't help but marvel at the Aussie's talent and machine control. Like him or loath him, the guy is spectacular on a bike and will be missed in MotoGP next year.

Lorenzo crosses the line in style
Lorenzo crosses the line in style
With Stoner in the lead, Lorenzo second and Cal Crutchlow third it was up to Alvaro Bautista, Stefan Bradl and Andrea Dovizioso to provide some mid-race entertainment for the crowds, which they did with some strong overtakes. In truth these three provided the only racing in the MotoGP procession, so hats off to them for that. Dovi won the fight with a ballsy overtake going into the first corner.

Another well deserved podium for Cal, a swansong win for Stoner and a second championship for Lorenzo - you can't argue with that as a result. Unless you are Dani Pedrosa...

Meanwhile in Moto2...
Moto2 and Dani's 2013 team mate only needed two points to be crowned champion - but would the Spaniard back off? Would he hell! Marquez took the lead on lap two but was then demoted by championship rival Pol Espargaro. You can't accuse Marquez of trying to stay out of trouble, but third place with Pol over 10 seconds ahead in first place probably wasn't his best ever rider. Never mind, a deserved championship won.

Further celebrations for Lorenzo in the pits
Further celebrations for Lorenzo in the pits
Second place went to the superb Anthony West with Scott Redding in fourth having been second for most of the race.

Moto3 mayhem
Moto3 and the return of Isaac Vinales added a bit of spice to an already decided championship. Khairuddin has been knocking on the door of a race win this season and after taking the lead things were looking good for the Malaysian rider in the opening few laps. He was probably still pissed off about last week'sresult...

A few jump starts (and a bit of a wild overtake) soon split up the leading pack with Khairuddin slipping back and Sandro Cortese taking up the challenge with Miquel Oliveira on his heels and Vinales in the gravel! Cortese took the win from Oliveira with third place going to local boy Arthur Sissis after a fierce six-bike scrap which included Danny Kent who finished a close fifth.

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Discussion

jason61c

Original Poster:

5,978 posts

174 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Its a shame Stoner is leaving, he's awesome to watch riding, without his bad luck the title would have been his.

MarJay

2,173 posts

175 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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I'm glad the grumpy whining Aussie has gone. Never liked him. Sure, he has talent but what good is talent when you have no personality?

I used to think the same of Lorenzo but he's certainly grown into himself I think, and however bad he was, he was never as bad as Stoner.

I'm hoping that Rossi can bring it on the Yamaha next year...

RX7

258 posts

244 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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MarJay said:
I'm glad the grumpy whining Aussie has gone. Never liked him. Sure, he has talent but what good is talent when you have no personality?

I used to think the same of Lorenzo but he's certainly grown into himself I think, and however bad he was, he was never as bad as Stoner.

I'm hoping that Rossi can bring it on the Yamaha next year...
Whilst it is nice to see some personality in the pits/paddock/post race interview, i dont have a care in the world what they are like in the above, i watch the pinnacle of bike racing to see the best riders in the world ride the proverbial wheels of the machines and at that, there is no better than Stoner and as per the article, his presence next year will be sadly missed imho!

What will we be left with next year, two Spaniards who are hardly the pinnacle of entertainment (off track), an Italian whose post race antics are something i would expect to see from a child or at a pantomime and Marquez, the unknown quantity

Although not finished, the highlight in what i thought was a very dull year of MotoGp was Crutchlow, great to see a Brit up the sharp end, if only he had a full factory bike, MotoGp might be worth watching next year, i can only hope Marquez mixes it up with the all too familiar Lorenzo, Pedrosa and probably Rossi battle next year!

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

216 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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MarJay said:
Sure, he has talent but what good is talent when you have no personality?
Are you being massively ironic here? Or just stupid?

woof

8,456 posts

277 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Totally forgot it was on - guess goes to show how poor a show it was this year.
Still I should of watched it.


peteA

2,681 posts

234 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Not the best year for MotoGP thats for sure - some of the comments re Stoner are a bit harsh.

Best rider out there at the moment - be good to see Rossi back on a competitive machine though.

As for this weekends race - Stoner around Philip Island...man he was quick!...and Stoner around...er...Stoner....was just awesome - drifting / squaring the corner off at those speeds arooud there was stunning to watch!

Sivraj

256 posts

191 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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I'll be sorry to see the back of Casey,
I wasn't a fan when he first it the scene, but he's proved time and again that he is world championship material and not many of the current crop of riders can touch him.

I think next year could be very interesting and I'll be expecting to see Cal improving his race finish's, competing for the title and winning his share of races!!.

Also Scott Reading's showing some real promise.

Well done guys!...

ajprice

27,453 posts

196 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Good pic in the article, I'll just leave this here to go with it.


bow

Edited by ajprice on Monday 29th October 12:46

srob

11,588 posts

238 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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I've never really 'got' this whole "I don't like Stoner, he's a boring whinger" thing.

I assume those same people go to club race meets (haha, as if they'd do that, you can't buy a t-shirt to say you were there. But anyway...) and walk around the paddock interviewing all riders before watching the race?

I don't give a monkeys what he's like off the bike - I'm not looking to marry the fella I want to see some good, entertaining riding and racing. How anyone can be glad Stoner's leaving is beyond me.

ETA; there's a big ol' thread already running on the PI GP in Biker Banter smile

Edited by srob on Monday 29th October 12:50

MissChief

7,101 posts

168 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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MAVERICK Vinales, NOT Isaac!

Sivraj

256 posts

191 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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ajprice said:
Good pic in the article, I'll just leave this here to go with it.


bow

Edited by ajprice on Monday 29th October 12:46
Awesome!.....

Johno

8,414 posts

282 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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MissChief said:
MAVERICK Vinales, NOT Isaac!
hehe

Well Isaac was racing, but I agree I think they meant his slightly more successful cousin.

Johno

8,414 posts

282 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Without Stoner, who are all these personality fetishists going to focus their adoration and vitriol at?

They'll be lost . . .

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Stoner makes 120% of the normal racing look easy, absolutely awesome rider, he can put power down like none of the rest - thats how he achieves the gaps.
Dont care if he is as miserable as a possum off track - but he looks happy with his wife etc, good luck Casey, enjoy whats next and thanks for the visual lessons in absolute bike control on the absolute limit.

RX7

258 posts

244 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Johno said:
Without Stoner, who are all these personality fetishists going to focus their adoration and vitriol at?

They'll be lost . . .
I don't think they will have to look that hard to be honest, Number 1 & 2 in the championship are hardly blessed with an endearing charisma or charm if you ask me. smile

I would prefer Casey saying how it is, considered whinging or not, that some pr media spin you get from the others!


Johno

8,414 posts

282 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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I agree, it's easy to poke holes in all of their personalities, dull media clones who don't say anything unless passed thru the PR filter.

Reveal no emotion, don't tell it how they see it, make sure to be seen drinking from the correctly sponsored energy drink cup, never say anything derogatory about the bike, team, competitor etc etc etc

Stoner was different to this and was the antithesis of the Rossi era celebrations, now we've lost a real talent and people say they are happy, happy for what? Why do you watch it, for the post race interviews or the racing?

After this season MGP will be poorer without Stoner until the next talent fills his shoes, it will carry on, but I hope we still have someone in the pitlane who doesn't feel the constant need to satisfy some fans view of how they 'should' behave.


J98

128 posts

147 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Whilst I've never really been a Stoner fan, you have to hand it to him, he can't half ride a bike on the limit, and the on track action won't quite be the same without him.

ArnageWRC

2,063 posts

159 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Never underwood the disliking of Stoner. Can he ride a bike? The only one who has tamed the Ducati, an awesome talent. Retiring far too early, but one does respect his decision, with a wife and baby maybe the recents deaths have affected him? Would love to see him in a V8 Supercar.

And we're left with what? Lorenzo, great rider, who now plays the percentages, which is fair enough. Team mate Rossi, has h still got it? But 2 boring identikit Spanish racers, in the same Repsol-Honda team - marvellous! Just what Dorna and Ezpeleto wanted.....

They should rename it the Spanish/ Mediterreanean MotoGP Championship....

CocoUK

952 posts

182 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Stoner. Riding God. Will be missed next season.

Nothing more to add.

Greg348

37 posts

162 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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I really dont think there is anything wrong with his leg now, despite that he says its worse than it was in Japan.

Unfortunately i can no longer find the video on the BBC website, but if you saw his crash in qualifying, he gets up and walks away perfectly normally, no limp, nothing! The video briefly goes to his pit crew, then as the video goes back to him he is now limping badly again!