RE: Future Of Belgian GP In Doubt

RE: Future Of Belgian GP In Doubt

Thursday 24th September 2009

Future Of Belgian GP In Doubt

Spa's operating licence revoked until 2026



The future of the Belgian Grand Prix looks to be in serious doubt after the Belgian government suspended the circuit's operating licence - with immediate effect - until 2026.

The decision has been taken by Belgium's Council of State after a noise complaint was made against the circuit by nearby residents in 2007.

The result of that complaint was that Spa's operator's were ordered to undertake an environmental impact study, which the Belgian government has slammed as "seriously inadequate and incomplete".

"It's quite a shock" circuit boss Pierre-Alain Thibaut told Belgium's Le Soir website. "Since the complaint was made, the whole situation has changed. The circuit has worked hard to reduce noise pollution and our relationship with local residents has been much improved."

Thibaut also said that is was a critical situation for Spa, and would call the "whole viability of the circuit into question,"

It seems Spa will not go down without a fight, however. Thibaut is already planning to appeal against the ruling.

Even if the historic circuit gets its licence back, it may struggle to keep staging a Grand Prix - it was revealed on Sunday that this year's event made a £2.6 million loss.

UPDATE:
PH spies have reported that transporters, cars and crew have been trying to get into the Spa-Francorchamps circuit for this weekend's Spa Six Hours to find the gates locked.

UPDATE 2:
The circuit organisers have lost their appeal, but may yet be granted a reprieve by government. The case has gone to Brussels, so expect a ruling this evening, or possibly tomorrow. Either way there is unlikely to be any Thursday testing, while the Six Hour race weekend itself is in serious doubt.

UPDATE 3:
We understand from the organisers via PH member Bosscerbera (see the thread for pics of his entry in the 6 hours race, and cheer him if you're going) that all is now well for the weekend. The circuit is open as planned, and both the race and practice will go ahead as scheduled. Phew!

(Image: Nathanael Majoros)

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MarcoVXR

Original Poster:

141 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Looks like all the GPs will be in rich faraway places where no one can watch them live , its been there for over 50 years all of a sudden theres a problem . The worlds a loopy place these days . furious

topless_mx5

2,763 posts

218 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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This sort of thing really pisses me off. Its happening at circuits worldwide. Houses are popping up and then residents feel it reasonable to complain about a race track that was there BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE. Ffs.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Boooo!

nonplussed

3,338 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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This, frankly, sucks. I've been to Spa GP's more than 10 times, it's a majestic place and by far the most interesting circuit on the calendar.

It truly is a mad world where Bernie wants to go anywhere that'll pay, no matter how pointless, and the local residents want to shut down what must be a major tourist magnet to an otherwise fairly f*cking dull region. In Belgium. Where you'd otherwise never go as the beer and frites aren't QUITE a good enough reason alone biggrin

Madness.

Ahonen

5,016 posts

279 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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I couldn't give two hoots about the GP.

The most important issue here is that one of the greatest circuits in the world could be about to close. This is extraordinary.

LordGrover

33,535 posts

212 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Can this really be allowed to happen? It has to be one of, if not the best/most entertaining circuits.

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

206 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Firstly the residents can take a running jump - don't move near a racetrack then complain.

Secondly Bernie can take a running jump and stop pricing proper historic racetracks out of the F1 calendar. Nobody wants to watch a season that consists of sterlie circuits with no atmosphere in the arse end of nowhere.

RDMcG

19,131 posts

207 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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I was very lucky to have a track day there..it is such magnificent place. This is truly shocking news. I was planning to go back next year. Never imagined that my first track day might be my last.

patmahe

5,745 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Surely something can be done to keep the circuit open, I mean it must surely bring tourism and provide employment to the local area that would otherwise not be there. Its an incredible decision.

xspencex

1,534 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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This is bad. . . I have two major events there for 2010. . .now what.

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

282 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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topless_mx5 said:
This sort of thing really pisses me off. Its happening at circuits worldwide. Houses are popping up and then residents feel it reasonable to complain about a race track that was there BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE. Ffs.
Absolutely right... There are two circuits in Belgium, and both have the same problem.

People get to buy the ground at a super low price, due to the presence of the circuit, then they start complaining about the noise. Governments should REALLY start to think about having those people sign a document that they'll never start complaining before they sell any property to them.

Shame, both Zolder and Spa are now at silly noise restrictions, and in one of the two cases, the major driving force behind it is rumoured to be an ex F16 pilot... Irony !!!

deevlash

10,442 posts

237 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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shal we find out who complained and go and firebomb their house? FFS why the hell would you buy a frigging house next to a fking race track if you liked peace and quiet? fking selfish moronic s.

BoRED S2upid

19,669 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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The day races like Spa and Monza are not on the F1 calander I will stop supporting F1. Whatever next noise limits on F1 cars.

BelperJim

2,503 posts

183 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!

PompeyM3

1,847 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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I'm sure I wouldn't be alone in thinking I'd pay more for a house if it was near a circuit, let alone what is one of the best on the planet.

Was really hoping to go for the first time to next years GP, hope I still can.

Jemco Andy

527 posts

221 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Ahonen said:
I couldn't give two hoots about the GP.

The most important issue here is that one of the greatest circuits in the world could be about to close. This is extraordinary.
Does this mean no Spa 6 hours this weekend? Am I understanding the ruling correctly?

Andy

nonplussed

3,338 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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BoRED S2upid said:
The day races like Spa and Monza are not on the F1 calander I will stop supporting F1.
Same here, sadly I don't think anyone really gives a f*ck what we think.


Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Jemco Andy said:
Ahonen said:
I couldn't give two hoots about the GP.

The most important issue here is that one of the greatest circuits in the world could be about to close. This is extraordinary.
Does this mean no Spa 6 hours this weekend? Am I understanding the ruling correctly?

Andy
That's how I understand it - will try and find out more...

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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xspencex said:
This is bad. . . I have two major events there for 2010. . .now what.
2010 rolleyes We're meant to be there next week, hardly a lot of notice...

Aparentley there is some sort of stay of execution already sorted, but the whole thing sucks IMHO

LordGrover

33,535 posts

212 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Can anyone make sense of this please: click?