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JakeT said:
This is a nice thread, I do like seeing the updates.
The E46 has been over 20 for a while now though, they offically started production in December 1997, with some very early saloon models being registered on an 'R' plate. My old 328ci was bult in November 1999.
My first 328i was a 1999 too, sadly a tad rusty now:The E46 has been over 20 for a while now though, they offically started production in December 1997, with some very early saloon models being registered on an 'R' plate. My old 328ci was bult in November 1999.
JakeT said:
This is a nice thread, I do like seeing the updates.
The E46 has been over 20 for a while now though, they offically started production in December 1997, with some very early saloon models being registered on an 'R' plate. My old 328ci was bult in November 1999.
Cheers!The E46 has been over 20 for a while now though, they offically started production in December 1997, with some very early saloon models being registered on an 'R' plate. My old 328ci was bult in November 1999.
I'll be honest, my car isn't as bad as Helix's 328i, but it's still not great :/. I do plan to sort that soon, albeit I am aware there will be a cost.
There have been more updates, and yes, I probably could have sorted the rust issues! But well, this is me, and logic sometimes needs a driver to get it to work again, especially if you are trying to keep your faith in the car, while it is misbehaving as your daily is being borrowed until someone's lease car arrives.
But, let's crack on!
So, what's next?
Remember my friend with an E46 M3 Individual? What you probably didn't know was that the E36 323i I alluded to earlier. That was also his, and it was a car both I and him in different areas got back up to its former glory. The Audi A6 in the Merc thread is also his, and what a great car that is.
He also had an E46 328i Touring, which the pair of us rather liked! It seems we do like a good old E46! With the M3 gone, It seems he still had that itch, but for something a little cheaper. A 330i this time?
I won’t go in depth as my post as to when I was finding an M3, but it seems even on the ‘cheap’ 330Cis it now seems to be a similar thing. Go onto this forum and Facebook, and people will say
“Yeah, I got a 330Ci for £1k off ma cuz, and it’s mint!”
“£1.5k is too much m8, You can get a twice as nice one for £500”.
OK, maybe the grammar’s not bad here, but you get the point.
I genuinely thought £2-3k would get him a really nice 330Ci as did he. His 158k, but very sorted and clean 328i went for £1.2k after all. Well, it seems it would a similar tale? How similar? Through wading through the £2k cars, all had shot and bodged interiors (blue stitching on a bolster in a black leather car anyone?), misaligned panels, probably from ram raids, rust breeding in quite a few areas like the arches, bathroom sealant holding up various seals and interior parts very obviously. That’s before I get to the generally flaky histories and iffy engines. It seemed the dealers were doing a similar thing but charging £4k for such heaps, albeit with obvious and sometimes poor paint repairs! We did come across some absolute jokers of car dealers and sellers mind you! A particular dealer in Slough as a ‘specialist’ was a very interesting character!
Were we really after too much? What on earth happened to getting a good BMW for around £2k? Did I really undersell my 323i all those years ago?
Anyway, when my friend upped the budget quite significantly, Significantly enough to put his budget into the firing line of a rare E46, the 330Ci ClubSport.
After seeing one rough one like the aforementioned cars, it seemed one good car did turn up. It was local-ish, and the owner was the type of owner you’d want to buy a car from. Maybe he knew this. Sure, the car had a few marks here and the wheels needed a refurb. But the car was decent, and so was he, detailing any time he had the car painted and why he had it painted, despite it not being obvious, and to a more hard buying buyer, ammunition to lower the price of the car!
It drove very well, didn’t have a cracked boot floor, or look terminal, and was clean and straight! The Exclusive interior it had inside, albeit rare, was the icing on the cake.
After some haggling, and a great deal for all involved, we came back in the car. And what a gem it is.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzvzVnjnWoi/?utm_sourc...
It’s a very different drive to the M3. The M54 unit is certainly more refined and smoother than the S54 lump found in the M3. For daily use, the M54 probably makes more sense, even if the fuel consumption is similar. But the S54 does have that magic about it, and a great blend of old school engineering with modern day touches just to give that great feeling about it.
Was he happy with the deal? You bet!
There is more to come. But, here’s a taster for now:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B1rtTFunOR-/?utm_sourc...
So, let's discuss what I have done on the car then!
Being the RR way I thought I'd change the cosmetics a little, and probably in a way that will be quite divisive as I have found out! Basically, I wanted to change the colour of the lights. An early E46 is now a rare sight on the roads from what I've seen but I have liked the orange lights on them for some time. It's funny, I used to enjoy making cars have clear lights on a few occasions including my ford Ka, Pug 205 GTi, and my 944, but it seems in some cases I just love the colour!
With this in mind, I decided to to investigate getting gingercators
On a pre-2001 M3, this is simple bar one part. With the clip-in indicators, the fronts are easily obtainable, and the rears cam come from an early E46 Coupe. Would this be so simple with my E46? Not exactly. But, these things are sent to test us.
I knew you could get the parts from the dealer, and for a more reasonable amount than I thought, but I thought I'd check out a few other places. Here is what I found
• Front indicators ; Screw in attachment, like all post ’01 E46 Coupes, where all were clear lights
• Sides; Shared with the BMW E38
• Rears : LED only, and clear in the UK market anyway.
So, was it easy to find them away from the stealer? No chance! Here is how my search went:
• Fronts : RHS available from Poland, LHS not available anywhere, albeit listed on sites.
• Sides: LHS was available from KMS for reasonable money. RHS? No chance. Secondhand, it seems these now go for near new money as well, if you can find them.
• Rears: Hardest thing of the lot. I found one rear for sale, again in Poland, but nowhere else.
And so, given that I knew BMW were OK on price, but also carried a guarantee, there I went to get them. So, how did the transformation go? Well, I'll let the pictures do the talking.
Let's start off with the front:
A bit of a change eh?
Why don't we do the rear as well?
I'll grab more shots of the rear soon, once my ankle heals and the weather begins to play ball.
Being the RR way I thought I'd change the cosmetics a little, and probably in a way that will be quite divisive as I have found out! Basically, I wanted to change the colour of the lights. An early E46 is now a rare sight on the roads from what I've seen but I have liked the orange lights on them for some time. It's funny, I used to enjoy making cars have clear lights on a few occasions including my ford Ka, Pug 205 GTi, and my 944, but it seems in some cases I just love the colour!
With this in mind, I decided to to investigate getting gingercators
On a pre-2001 M3, this is simple bar one part. With the clip-in indicators, the fronts are easily obtainable, and the rears cam come from an early E46 Coupe. Would this be so simple with my E46? Not exactly. But, these things are sent to test us.
I knew you could get the parts from the dealer, and for a more reasonable amount than I thought, but I thought I'd check out a few other places. Here is what I found
• Front indicators ; Screw in attachment, like all post ’01 E46 Coupes, where all were clear lights
• Sides; Shared with the BMW E38
• Rears : LED only, and clear in the UK market anyway.
So, was it easy to find them away from the stealer? No chance! Here is how my search went:
• Fronts : RHS available from Poland, LHS not available anywhere, albeit listed on sites.
• Sides: LHS was available from KMS for reasonable money. RHS? No chance. Secondhand, it seems these now go for near new money as well, if you can find them.
• Rears: Hardest thing of the lot. I found one rear for sale, again in Poland, but nowhere else.
And so, given that I knew BMW were OK on price, but also carried a guarantee, there I went to get them. So, how did the transformation go? Well, I'll let the pictures do the talking.
Let's start off with the front:
A bit of a change eh?
Why don't we do the rear as well?
I'll grab more shots of the rear soon, once my ankle heals and the weather begins to play ball
.The ambers look very well. I like them on the dark coloured cars, the contrast is just lovely.
SebringMan said:
I genuinely thought £2-3k would get him a really nice 330Ci as did he. His 158k, but very sorted and clean 328i went for £1.2k after all. Well, it seems it would a similar tale? How similar? Through wading through the £2k cars, all had shot and bodged interiors (blue stitching on a bolster in a black leather car anyone?), misaligned panels, probably from ram raids, rust breeding in quite a few areas like the arches, bathroom sealant holding up various seals and interior parts very obviously. That’s before I get to the generally flaky histories and iffy engines. It seemed the dealers were doing a similar thing but charging £4k for such heaps, albeit with obvious and sometimes poor paint repairs! We did come across some absolute jokers of car dealers and sellers mind you! A particular dealer in Slough as a ‘specialist’ was a very interesting character!
This is why I didn't buy another E46 after my 328ci went. Most of them were in poor condition for the money, or wanting five grand. Most of them seemed to have knackered ball joints, worn steering racks, or rust issues. I still have a tidy 325ti that spends a lot of time on a charger in the garage, but I bought a nice E91 330i instead of another E46. They're still a great daily, but it needs to be a sorted one, or the time needs to be taken to sort one. Shame, as they feel great to drive and are a comfortable car. I've done over 100,000 miles between the three I had. Never got stranded and took them through the beast from the east, and all over Europe.JakeT said:
The ambers look very well. I like them on the dark coloured cars, the contrast is just lovely.
This is why I didn't buy another E46 after my 328ci went. Most of them were in poor condition for the money, or wanting five grand. Most of them seemed to have knackered ball joints, worn steering racks, or rust issues. I still have a tidy 325ti that spends a lot of time on a charger in the garage, but I bought a nice E91 330i instead of another E46. They're still a great daily, but it needs to be a sorted one, or the time needs to be taken to sort one. Shame, as they feel great to drive and are a comfortable car. I've done over 100,000 miles between the three I had. Never got stranded and took them through the beast from the east, and all over Europe.
I'm surprised my friend didn't sack off the search of one. This one did come to less than £5k though This is why I didn't buy another E46 after my 328ci went. Most of them were in poor condition for the money, or wanting five grand. Most of them seemed to have knackered ball joints, worn steering racks, or rust issues. I still have a tidy 325ti that spends a lot of time on a charger in the garage, but I bought a nice E91 330i instead of another E46. They're still a great daily, but it needs to be a sorted one, or the time needs to be taken to sort one. Shame, as they feel great to drive and are a comfortable car. I've done over 100,000 miles between the three I had. Never got stranded and took them through the beast from the east, and all over Europe.
. The Individual M3 was a 5 figure car, but TBH it's a good car for SMG haters to drive (it's amazing the difference a new DMF, clutch and drivetrain components like the prop bearing etc. make to it, even the engine performance affects it), and an example IMHO of how an M3 should drive. But the last person was also a chequebook mechanic. This 330Ci is very similar in that respect. I'll have get more shots of it soon and a few more details.I think the reasons why the values have gone up are as follows:
-Drifters have moved onto these and that is still a growing scene; With more dying and getting trashed, it drives the values up. Same thing happed with S13 and S14 Nissans years ago, long before the classic car bubble came.
-E30 values have shot up well into 5 figures for good 6 pot Coupes. E36 Sports have risen, so of course, people consider the next car down
-Classic Car 'investments', Modern Classics did a very gleaming piece on these, claiming they were better than an M3 according to the journalist, and that £6k was better spent on one than an M3 (Latter point is fair)
-Modern ones are strange to drive. I like the E9x and E6x drive, even if the latter is a little understeery. I'm unsure of the F8x cars, albeit I respect the M4, and the M135i left me feeling cold the second time I drove it. Great engine and box, but the chassis was a bit meh for me; I prefer the E61 535d I hate to say!
The E46 is a lovely steer for sure, despite being very similar to its E36 brethren.
I *may* have a trip planned for the M3 again, but I need to sort a couple of things. The rust I'll leave for now, it's more the mechanical aspects of it.
I’m surprised you had so much trouble finding an amber set of indicators. The sides, as you mentioned, are also E38 parts so there were plentiful options when I searched, as well as the front corners. The rears i got very lucky, as on German eBay there was a seller selling genuine facelift LED amber taillights for €59, though that was some four years ago now, so I appreciate it might be harder as you described.
Have you heard of leebmann24.de? It is a German BMW dealer and they have thus far been excellent regarding spares and upgrades for my M3; everything from a RHD windscreen cowl, said front/side indicators, new wing vent badge, gearknob and gaiter, handbrake grip and gaiter, strut top covers, various other bits of interior and exterior trim and clips, front bumper clips, probably more.
Was this perhaps some inspiration?
Have you heard of leebmann24.de? It is a German BMW dealer and they have thus far been excellent regarding spares and upgrades for my M3; everything from a RHD windscreen cowl, said front/side indicators, new wing vent badge, gearknob and gaiter, handbrake grip and gaiter, strut top covers, various other bits of interior and exterior trim and clips, front bumper clips, probably more.
Was this perhaps some inspiration?
Nunga said:
I’m surprised you had so much trouble finding an amber set of indicators. The sides, as you mentioned, are also E38 parts so there were plentiful options when I searched, as well as the front corners. The rears i got very lucky, as on German eBay there was a seller selling genuine facelift LED amber taillights for €59, though that was some four years ago now, so I appreciate it might be harder as you described.
Have you heard of leebmann24.de? It is a German BMW dealer and they have thus far been excellent regarding spares and upgrades for my M3; everything from a RHD windscreen cowl, said front/side indicators, new wing vent badge, gearknob and gaiter, handbrake grip and gaiter, strut top covers, various other bits of interior and exterior trim and clips, front bumper clips, probably more.
Was this perhaps some inspiration?
Indeed, times has changed. Most E38 owners I know binned their side ambers. Even in the breakers yards, the ambers on pre-amber cars weren't there. Mine being a facelift M3 with screw in indicators made the front harder. Autodoc had one side in stock with ECP and GSF proving uselss despite providing part nos. for both the genuine items and the AL nos.Have you heard of leebmann24.de? It is a German BMW dealer and they have thus far been excellent regarding spares and upgrades for my M3; everything from a RHD windscreen cowl, said front/side indicators, new wing vent badge, gearknob and gaiter, handbrake grip and gaiter, strut top covers, various other bits of interior and exterior trim and clips, front bumper clips, probably more.
Was this perhaps some inspiration?
I'll have to remember that site
. I've been lucky with Cotswold and Rybrook mind you. The ABS sensor from them was around the same money as a TRW/ATE replacement ; I'm aware Bosch stuff online is trickier to tell from being either fake, an inferior quality (Ford TDCI owners will know about that one) or the real deal, so that price can't always be taken.But yes, I've considered that look with either Gold or Bronze wheels
. Remember that I have the 18s in a bit of a tatty state too .Edited by SebringMan on Tuesday 1st October 23:43
Mine is a facelift as well, and this year I had to replace my RHS front indicator due to a big stone chip in the glass. Pretty sure it came from eBay, but it’s genuine so it matches perfectly. I guess ultimately you have to be prepared to use all the resources at your disposal.
It’s funny you mention TRW as I guess a dig(?) at pattern parts. There was a lot of talk on M3cutters about E46 front LCAs from AUTODOC and whether or not the TRW sets were genuine, and the final consensus was the TRW ones are just Lemforder ie OEM, but with the Lemforder logo ground off.
It’s funny you mention TRW as I guess a dig(?) at pattern parts. There was a lot of talk on M3cutters about E46 front LCAs from AUTODOC and whether or not the TRW sets were genuine, and the final consensus was the TRW ones are just Lemforder ie OEM, but with the Lemforder logo ground off.
Nunga said:
Mine is a facelift as well, and this year I had to replace my RHS front indicator due to a big stone chip in the glass. Pretty sure it came from eBay, but it’s genuine so it matches perfectly. I guess ultimately you have to be prepared to use all the resources at your disposal.
It’s funny you mention TRW as I guess a dig(?) at pattern parts. There was a lot of talk on M3cutters about E46 front LCAs from AUTODOC and whether or not the TRW sets were genuine, and the final consensus was the TRW ones are just Lemforder ie OEM, but with the Lemforder logo ground off.
The Right side was oddly the one I could still get off eBay . Indeed, it does pay to be planned.It’s funny you mention TRW as I guess a dig(?) at pattern parts. There was a lot of talk on M3cutters about E46 front LCAs from AUTODOC and whether or not the TRW sets were genuine, and the final consensus was the TRW ones are just Lemforder ie OEM, but with the Lemforder logo ground off.
I only mentioned TRW as given that BMW parts come with a 2 year warranty, it seems almost crazy to go for an ‘OE’ part from an alternative supplier. I’ve previously had Lemforder stuff fail on other cars when bought from a very well known European Car Parts motor factor, and am aware there are differing qualities, especially now I work in the automotive trade and see the engineering changes/grades of parts . But that said, I’m not an advocate of genuine always being best, as parts of this thread have alluded to .
I have a few more pics, which I will update later on today .
There’s been other progress including solving the plethora of warning lights on the dashboard .
So, it was time for the final piece of the jigsaw puzzle. The side repeaters. Eventually, they turned up! One of them looked like it had been sat on the shelf for quite some time. Naturally, I had to get the old ones off.
Why buy smoked repeaters when you can get aged ones? After 15 years, my old items were looking a little sorry for themselves.
Finally, despite the poor weather, it was time to reveal the lights on the car!
[img]http://img.retro-rides.org/i/v/chasr/8bc3e39c7645.jpg/img]
So, there it is! The car is now ambered, or Tango'd as an advert used to go!
Why buy smoked repeaters when you can get aged ones? After 15 years, my old items were looking a little sorry for themselves.
Finally, despite the poor weather, it was time to reveal the lights on the car!
[img]http://img.retro-rides.org/i/v/chasr/8bc3e39c7645.jpg/img]
So, there it is! The car is now ambered, or Tango'd as an advert used to go!
Edited by SebringMan on Friday 4th October 17:44
tgr said:
helix402 said:
My first 328i was a 1999 too, sadly a tad rusty now:
That M52TU engine was an absolute masterpiece I felt. I had it with the big casing 5 speed box. Best car I've ever hadMany thanks for the comms!
I've been a little quiet about this car lately as I've been focusing on another!
Yup, this is my 280SE 4.5 and what a beast it is!
It's been great for getting some perspective on my fleet as well as it being so damn cool!
But the M3 hasn't gone without anything. I actually ended up taking it abroad in October! Stay tuned for more updates:
I've been a little quiet about this car lately as I've been focusing on another!
Yup, this is my 280SE 4.5 and what a beast it is!
It's been great for getting some perspective on my fleet as well as it being so damn cool!
But the M3 hasn't gone without anything. I actually ended up taking it abroad in October! Stay tuned for more updates:
Well, let's face it. Germany is a great place with plenty to offer. But mention Germany as a holiday destination and it doesn't exactly evoke the soul, does it?
With quite a busy year this year I had a week of holiday to take. Of course, the thought of all-inclusives, package holidays or even a break somewhere in the UK all crossed my mind. It would have been easier too, with the weekend I left on being a friend's wedding, leaving me with 6 days to take a holiday on. So, where did I decide? Germany! Crazy I know, but I had my reasons, for which I shall come to later.
My plan originally was to do the following:
-Bruges
-A couple of places in Germany
-Stelvio Pass.
I soon realised this was ambitious and calmed down.
Then came the car! If I was very sensible I'd have taken the Mondeo. It's not as dull as you think and with the Volvo 5 pot, it's a fruity car as well. But it lacked the X-Factor. That left then the two Germans, naturally. Let's be honest, we always knew it would be one of the two!
The Mercedes was the easiest car to dismiss! Not the RR way I admit, but considering I was driving through rush hour that day, was generally pretty shattered for what felt like a few months, and a heavy drinker @ 16MPG, that also went out. it's a lovely cruiser, but on the busy German roads, probably not right, and definitely bankrupt worthy with its fuel economy ; France last June cost £400 in that; bear in mind this was a trip with me going it alone!
Naturally, that left the M3. It always was going to be that way. It had the look, albeit with rust breeding from the front wings, it was now working very well and ready despite the ABS saga this year, and for what I had planned, it would actually be spot on in more ways than one.
With that in mind, I booked the Eurotunnel, the Bruges hotel and left the rest as I went along on the trip. Before I knew it, months passed on by and it was holiday time!
At least the drive down to the ferry was great, with a mixture of bad traffic with the M40 closing down from Warwick, me feeling a little tired after the wedding, and some crap 80s music; a blend of Pet Shop Boys and Erasure's Innocents album to keep me company.
Before I knew it, it was 6:30pm and I was at the docks, ready to leave for the 8pm train. Before hitting Germany, I would hit Bruges. Damn, I was tired by then!
But where would I go? No, not that silly song. What would I do? That folks, shall be announced later on in this thread.
With quite a busy year this year I had a week of holiday to take. Of course, the thought of all-inclusives, package holidays or even a break somewhere in the UK all crossed my mind. It would have been easier too, with the weekend I left on being a friend's wedding, leaving me with 6 days to take a holiday on. So, where did I decide? Germany! Crazy I know, but I had my reasons, for which I shall come to later
.My plan originally was to do the following:
-Bruges
-A couple of places in Germany
-Stelvio Pass.
I soon realised this was ambitious and calmed down.
Then came the car! If I was very sensible I'd have taken the Mondeo. It's not as dull as you think and with the Volvo 5 pot, it's a fruity car as well. But it lacked the X-Factor. That left then the two Germans, naturally. Let's be honest, we always knew it would be one of the two!
The Mercedes was the easiest car to dismiss! Not the RR way I admit, but considering I was driving through rush hour that day, was generally pretty shattered for what felt like a few months, and a heavy drinker @ 16MPG, that also went out. it's a lovely cruiser, but on the busy German roads, probably not right, and definitely bankrupt worthy with its fuel economy ; France last June cost £400 in that; bear in mind this was a trip with me going it alone!
Naturally, that left the M3. It always was going to be that way. It had the look, albeit with rust breeding from the front wings, it was now working very well and ready despite the ABS saga this year, and for what I had planned, it would actually be spot on in more ways than one.
With that in mind, I booked the Eurotunnel, the Bruges hotel and left the rest as I went along on the trip. Before I knew it, months passed on by and it was holiday time!
At least the drive down to the ferry was great, with a mixture of bad traffic with the M40 closing down from Warwick, me feeling a little tired after the wedding, and some crap 80s music; a blend of Pet Shop Boys and Erasure's Innocents album to keep me company.
Before I knew it, it was 6:30pm and I was at the docks, ready to leave for the 8pm train. Before hitting Germany, I would hit Bruges. Damn, I was tired by then!
But where would I go? No, not that silly song. What would I do? That folks, shall be announced later on in this thread.
Last pic looks like Prinsenhof in Bruges, leading to the Hotel Dukes Palace. Bruges is nice. Horrible to drive around. The Belgians get upset with me idling along in second over the cobbles.
I quite like Germany as a holiday destination. It's not the south of France, or Spain but it's got some great drives and places to eat.
I quite like Germany as a holiday destination. It's not the south of France, or Spain but it's got some great drives and places to eat.
JakeT said:
Last pic looks like Prinsenhof in Bruges, leading to the Hotel Dukes Palace. Bruges is nice. Horrible to drive around. The Belgians get upset with me idling along in second over the cobbles.
I quite like Germany as a holiday destination. It's not the south of France, or Spain but it's got some great drives and places to eat.
It certainly is!I quite like Germany as a holiday destination. It's not the south of France, or Spain but it's got some great drives and places to eat.
It's not pleasant to drive around! I ended up sitting back, going into auto and just navigating my way through the labryinth of bits! But now for the update.
The first place I'd stop would be Bruges! I was pretty shattered by the time I got there. As you may be able to tell in the above shot, it was pretty late when I rocked up, so after a fairly late lie in, I resurfaced and figured I'd see a little more of Bruges than I did 10 years ago.
I won't show too many photos of Bruges, as it wasn't the main reason I went over. For those who haven't been it's well worth a visit! That said, Bruges is not particularly car friendly in the centre! The above shot had me taking a network of back alleys and side streets once I finally made my way to the hotel! I wouldn't let this put you off from going however. It's a slow and easy going place, which is probably just what many of us need for a short break.
For the beer fans, this is well worth a try. The infamous Westvleteran. The very same where it is only available from the Monks who make it for limited periods of time, and with them limiting the supply of it very strictly. So, it was nice to see bottles of it for sale, even if it was a little pricey! Maybe not if you are Finish mind you, then the price is probably reasonable
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That said, Bruges wasn't the main reason for why I went over. I would eventually stop over near the Nurburgring at a friend's place. But again, that's only one part of the story. The below should hint at one of the reasons mind you I went over to Germany.
Some of you will know exactly where the above place is. As for the others, it will become a little more apparent in the next update.
So, where was this mystical place? It was actually not that mystical at all! Still cool mind you, It was the Porsche Museum!
As soon as I parked the car up and walked towards the reception I knew I was in the right place, in my element. Just look at the beauties!
But I couldn't just stay around and admire the cars behind a glass wall, I had to get out and explore the museum!
"Electric cars are evil", "Our forefathers wouldn't have had electric cars", "Electric Cars are too new!" Well I'll let you into a secret. Porsche were doing all this at the start of the 20th Century. The car they used as their template? The Lohner-Porsche. Below is a cuttaway of the motor within the wheel! This is technology that has been around for over a 100 years? A Prius is new? Is it 'eck?
The car that almost looks like a spaceship!
What a lineage. What a legacy!
The purity of design impresses most!
It was great to see how Porsche managed to eeek out every advantage. Take the fuel system. For this particular car, they ran no fuel pump, and even used part of the spaceframe as fuel lines from the fuel tank! The tank, made of Titanium, was then pressurised to allow the fuel injection system to work, allowing the car to race. What a mad way to get every bit of weight out of a car. What Genius!
"Porsche 718s are a terrible car with that flat 4 engine!", people will say. Not this one!
This however, was the part I loved the most. Seeing the 917s! With such a reputation, and such a history about them, there is no denying these are truly superb things!
Yup, this place offers the lot:
It's probably the coolest place a boiler logo has sat:
For the purists, some things would have been upsetting. For others, they'd be wondering why didn't Porsche put these touches onto production cars?
A V8 powered 914, that was once used daily? I'll take 3!
For people wondering what the concept Boxster looked like, this gives a taster:
You were even given the chance to sit in some of the flagship stuff being sold told. Going by the state of this seat, and how awkward it was to get inside, this car had seen a fair few bums!
So, the Porsche museum. A great place worth a visit indeed!
But, I wasn't going to come all the way over to Stuttgart to see one museum was I? Nope, not at all.
When this was parked next to my car the next morning in Stuttgart, It was almost as if the place had read my mind! There was however a little surprise left for me on the M3, which I'll divulge next time.
As soon as I parked the car up and walked towards the reception I knew I was in the right place, in my element. Just look at the beauties!
But I couldn't just stay around and admire the cars behind a glass wall, I had to get out and explore the museum!
"Electric cars are evil", "Our forefathers wouldn't have had electric cars", "Electric Cars are too new!" Well I'll let you into a secret. Porsche were doing all this at the start of the 20th Century
. The car they used as their template? The Lohner-Porsche. Below is a cuttaway of the motor within the wheel! This is technology that has been around for over a 100 years? A Prius is new? Is it 'eck?The car that almost looks like a spaceship!
What a lineage. What a legacy!
The purity of design impresses most!
It was great to see how Porsche managed to eeek out every advantage. Take the fuel system. For this particular car, they ran no fuel pump, and even used part of the spaceframe as fuel lines from the fuel tank! The tank, made of Titanium, was then pressurised to allow the fuel injection system to work, allowing the car to race. What a mad way to get every bit of weight out of a car. What Genius!
"Porsche 718s are a terrible car with that flat 4 engine!", people will say. Not this one!
This however, was the part I loved the most. Seeing the 917s! With such a reputation, and such a history about them, there is no denying these are truly superb things!
Yup, this place offers the lot:
It's probably the coolest place a boiler logo has sat
:For the purists, some things would have been upsetting. For others, they'd be wondering why didn't Porsche put these touches onto production cars?
A V8 powered 914, that was once used daily? I'll take 3!
For people wondering what the concept Boxster looked like, this gives a taster:
You were even given the chance to sit in some of the flagship stuff being sold told. Going by the state of this seat, and how awkward it was to get inside, this car had seen a fair few bums!
So, the Porsche museum. A great place worth a visit indeed!
But, I wasn't going to come all the way over to Stuttgart to see one museum was I? Nope, not at all
.When this was parked next to my car the next morning in Stuttgart, It was almost as if the place had read my mind! There was however a little surprise left for me on the M3, which I'll divulge next time.
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