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Thanks very much again dude! 
Yes the AP's are two piece and they fit on over the hub fine (no cutting or grindiing or anything required) basically the alloy bell reduces the unpsprung weight, and reduces the rotational mass or something like that! *Lewis's brain implodes*
Either way they will be more effective than the haggard old cheap hispec discs!
Yes the AP's are two piece and they fit on over the hub fine (no cutting or grindiing or anything required) basically the alloy bell reduces the unpsprung weight, and reduces the rotational mass or something like that! *Lewis's brain implodes*
Either way they will be more effective than the haggard old cheap hispec discs! Track_Cit said:
Thanks very much again dude!
Yes the AP's are two piece and they fit on over the hub fine (no cutting or grindiing or anything required) basically the alloy bell reduces the unpsprung weight, and reduces the rotational mass or something like that! *Lewis's brain implodes* Either way they will be more effective than the haggard old cheap hispec discs!
is that a similar principle to fitting lighter wheels then? Yes the AP's are two piece and they fit on over the hub fine (no cutting or grindiing or anything required) basically the alloy bell reduces the unpsprung weight, and reduces the rotational mass or something like that! *Lewis's brain implodes*
Either way they will be more effective than the haggard old cheap hispec discs! fantastic build by the way. Nice to see one of these hatches that isn't mullered by the boy racer brigade.
hugh_ said:
Dr Imran T said:
is that a similar principle to fitting lighter wheels then?
Yeah, but as the mass is closer to the point of rotation is has less effect on the total rotating mass. Affect on unsprung mass is (relatively) unaffected by position.Dr Imran T said:
hugh_ said:
Dr Imran T said:
is that a similar principle to fitting lighter wheels then?
Yeah, but as the mass is closer to the point of rotation is has less effect on the total rotating mass. Affect on unsprung mass is (relatively) unaffected by position.Rotational mass is a bit different, anything that is heavy will have a worse effect in rotation the further away it is from the axle. Ideally we'd like brake discs to be narrow in diameter, however, they work better when they have a large diameter. A larger diameter means that they have more rotational inertia to turing.
So like everything in motorsport engineering it is all about compromise.
Sorry to derail this thread...
I've just bought my second car and it's a phase 2 VTR and my God I love it!
It's such a fun car, so many people over look these because of the image, but you'd be quite hard pressed to find a similar car with similar performace and insurace for a young driver.
I've just bought my second car and it's a phase 2 VTR and my God I love it!
It's such a fun car, so many people over look these because of the image, but you'd be quite hard pressed to find a similar car with similar performace and insurace for a young driver.
Nikko 40691 said:
Sorry to derail this thread...
I've just bought my second car and it's a phase 2 VTR and my God I love it!
It's such a fun car, so many people over look these because of the image, but you'd be quite hard pressed to find a similar car with similar performace and insurace for a young driver.
thread derailed, as i can tell you one, 106 gti............I've just bought my second car and it's a phase 2 VTR and my God I love it!
It's such a fun car, so many people over look these because of the image, but you'd be quite hard pressed to find a similar car with similar performace and insurace for a young driver.
castrolcraig said:
Nikko 40691 said:
Sorry to derail this thread...
I've just bought my second car and it's a phase 2 VTR and my God I love it!
It's such a fun car, so many people over look these because of the image, but you'd be quite hard pressed to find a similar car with similar performace and insurace for a young driver.
thread derailed, as i can tell you one, 106 gti............I've just bought my second car and it's a phase 2 VTR and my God I love it!
It's such a fun car, so many people over look these because of the image, but you'd be quite hard pressed to find a similar car with similar performace and insurace for a young driver.
Nikko 40691 said:
It's such a fun car, so many people over look these because of the image, but you'd be quite hard pressed to find a similar car with similar performace and insurace for a young driver.
Panda 100HP and Suzuki Swift Sport are two, although they cost a little more to buy initially, and the Swifts more VTS level. I tried both and both were great, but the Swift just felt like less of a van and more power is always nice. There's also the Ford Sport KA.Keep us posted Track_cit, it's and awesome bit of kit, and I'm looking forward to the next update.
identti said:
Nikko 40691 said:
It's such a fun car, so many people over look these because of the image, but you'd be quite hard pressed to find a similar car with similar performace and insurace for a young driver.
Panda 100HP and Suzuki Swift Sport are two, although they cost a little more to buy initially, and the Swifts more VTS level. I tried both and both were great, but the Swift just felt like less of a van and more power is always nice. There's also the Ford Sport KA.Keep us posted Track_cit, it's and awesome bit of kit, and I'm looking forward to the next update.
paul26982 said:
identti said:
Nikko 40691 said:
It's such a fun car, so many people over look these because of the image, but you'd be quite hard pressed to find a similar car with similar performace and insurace for a young driver.
Panda 100HP and Suzuki Swift Sport are two, although they cost a little more to buy initially, and the Swifts more VTS level. I tried both and both were great, but the Swift just felt like less of a van and more power is always nice. There's also the Ford Sport KA.Keep us posted Track_cit, it's and awesome bit of kit, and I'm looking forward to the next update.
G.J.S. said:
you have made the wipers lhd on rhd car so they wont sweep infront of driver in corner,suppose it all up to who ya know when it comes to mot time,i dont have a cat but it passes?awesome looking car by the way,where is the gear lever from(red anodised bit)
awesome looking car by the way,where is the gear lever from(red anodised bit)
If you read back a few pages he has done it because of the throttle bodies and the wiper mechanism getting in the way. Switching to LHD moves the mechanism over enough.Polarbert said:
G.J.S. said:
you have made the wipers lhd on rhd car so they wont sweep infront of driver in corner,suppose it all up to who ya know when it comes to mot time,i dont have a cat but it passes?awesome looking car by the way,where is the gear lever from(red anodised bit)
awesome looking car by the way,where is the gear lever from(red anodised bit) If you read back a few pages he has done it because of the throttle bodies and the wiper mechanism getting in the way. Switching to LHD moves the mechanism over enough.Anyway back to the Saxo........
Right more updates:
Collected my bespoke carbon fibre air intakes from Streamline - they are 74mm long so longer than the previous, but not so long that I have to cut the scuttle panel. They also have the added bonus of being super lightweight and super sexy looking too! Another top job by the guys at Streamline, thanks. Also collected my fully rebuilt gearbox, all new synchros and bearings, uprated input shaft bearing and shot blasted casing so it's all mint. Here are some photo's...more to come after xmas when I have money again!
Collected my bespoke carbon fibre air intakes from Streamline - they are 74mm long so longer than the previous, but not so long that I have to cut the scuttle panel. They also have the added bonus of being super lightweight and super sexy looking too!
Another top job by the guys at Streamline, thanks. Also collected my fully rebuilt gearbox, all new synchros and bearings, uprated input shaft bearing and shot blasted casing so it's all mint. Here are some photo's...more to come after xmas when I have money again! 
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