The not so common A45 AMG
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kayzee said:
That's probably the best wrap I've ever seen... looks stunning! I'd love to know how much it cost 
I've never been sure the spoiler works on these but this is a very cool car indeed man, and something a bit different. I like.
It didn't cost as much as you might think. You can always ask Shane at UTWS for a quote if you are interested. http://www.utws.co.uk/ I've never been sure the spoiler works on these but this is a very cool car indeed man, and something a bit different. I like.Eddie
andygtt said:
Very very impressed with the 0-100 time... 0-60 nowadays is hampered by traction rather than power but the 0-100 is a very real indication of how fast a car is in the real world on the road, and yours is ballistic.
It kept with the 700bhp Evolve M5 to 80 or 90 (then got blown away) so im quite pleased!I've got video of the M5 run too!
It was quite eye opening running against the likes of the 918 and CCX. Highlighted the night and day gap between a fast car like the A45 and a hypercar like the 918. They really are ballistic and leave the line like a cannon ball. I might as well have not been moving, that's how quick they were leaving me behind!
StottyEvo said:
What an incredible car and build, the same 0-100 time as the original GTR 
that's some good going, all with Vbox data to back up the claims too :thumbsup:
I am a little surprised at the initial Vbox data though, having raced a friends A45 AMG (in standard form) we went from 70-150 three times and there was nothing in it. Bearing in mind my Evo is 342hp I expected the A45 to pull comfortably. What is even more surprising is that my 0-60 should be 4.4, 0-100 11.7 and top speed ~160. Which compared to your figures shows your A45 will have met my expectations and pulled comfortably. Maybe his was just a poor example.
I need to get a Vbox.
The A45 is a heavy car, which may explain the lack of performance against the lightweight Mitsi. They are also quite affected by grip and the 4matic system will nanny the torque outputs to the point where it hampers the sprint figures. 70 to 150 with more power (only a little though) and more weight will definitely balance the scales. The A45 only has circa 20bhp more than your Evo. That's not a lot of visible gap on the road, but it will show a tenth or two on the vbox. Tryt it again in a 0 to 150 race and you may see more of a leap ahead by the little AMG. that's some good going, all with Vbox data to back up the claims too :thumbsup:I am a little surprised at the initial Vbox data though, having raced a friends A45 AMG (in standard form) we went from 70-150 three times and there was nothing in it. Bearing in mind my Evo is 342hp I expected the A45 to pull comfortably. What is even more surprising is that my 0-60 should be 4.4, 0-100 11.7 and top speed ~160. Which compared to your figures shows your A45 will have met my expectations and pulled comfortably. Maybe his was just a poor example.
I need to get a Vbox.
pimpchez said:
I am so glad that you have vbox times to back it up , up to 100 nothing on the road is going to touch you with such traction.
If the standard boost is supposedly 1.9bar ish , how much does the remap crank it up to and what are the turbo options going forward (garrett,precision, efr etc).
As soon as this thing hits £15k ,one will be mine
Yeah, i've yet to find anything to match it on the road. Short of cornering a fellow PHers MP4-12C i think i'd be safe in the traffic light GP 99% of the time. Sods law, after writing that post I'm going to meet every Tom, Dick and Harry at the lights and i'm going to lose miserably to a sleeper Micra!If the standard boost is supposedly 1.9bar ish , how much does the remap crank it up to and what are the turbo options going forward (garrett,precision, efr etc).
As soon as this thing hits £15k ,one will be mine
Regarding boost pressure, i'm not sure to be honest. I don't ask those sorts of questions and rely only on what my tune provider has promised. So far he / they have not let me down. The remap must crank it up a fair bit but i know that the guy who developed the tune is well aware of the limits of the stock turbo so i'm not expecting a Renault 5GT-esque explosion at 6krpm!
The next step will be an EFR or similar I reckon. Once Greg Maxwell gets his backside in gear and recovers his car from it's current development work i'll make a decision on what step to take next. His car should be seeing well over 500bhp and will have the required gearbox and diff work done to make it stick on the road. If you think mine is quick then i reckon you'll be slightly stunned by what his will do!
Eddie
I'm averaging 24mpg over the 8800 miles done so far and i give mine a fair bit of abuse. Saying that, there is no way you can get to the MB quoted figures of 40+mpg. You can average 34mpg, maybe 35mpg at 70 on the motorway but to get 40+ i reckon you need to be sat at 55 for a long run and do nothing but mong it. I'm not sure at what speed, under what conditions or in what mode MB achieved their book numbers but they seem to be mythical in the real world rather than a thing you could ever be likely to accomplish.
I am due a long drive to Scotland at the beginning of July so maybe I'll try to clock the 40 then.
I am due a long drive to Scotland at the beginning of July so maybe I'll try to clock the 40 then.
AntiLagGC8 said:
ecain63 said:
ORD said:
Genuine questions, not snide remarks:-
(1) what sort of miles do you expect out of the engine and box running so much more torque at low revs?
(2) why not buy a faster car to begin with, rather than work from an already quite highly strung engine and weak AWD set up?
1. The engines are good for way over 500bhp. AMG have run them to way over this figure during testing and as it is a fully forged unit the engine is pretty solid. The standard turbo is good for it's current 450bhp but is now at its limit. The gearbox is fine too. It's well tested over 600nm, our concern is with the clutch packs and the haldex diff. If we can upgrade here then we should be fine for a good amount more power. A forum friend has one in development that should soon be happily around 550bhp!!(1) what sort of miles do you expect out of the engine and box running so much more torque at low revs?
(2) why not buy a faster car to begin with, rather than work from an already quite highly strung engine and weak AWD set up?
2. Why anything? That's like asking an Escort Mk1 owner why he kept it for 30+ years and added a zetec turbo at huige cost. People don't expect big things from little cars.
It's interesting because it appears many of the Impreza owners are moving on to these since Subaru have watered down the Impreza. There has been a lot of threads on the subject on ScoobyNet.
I've got a friend who has one (stage 1) and I love it, I'm not entirely convinced about the sound but the construction and quality of the car is superb.
I have a modded RB5 (about 380bhp) and the cars are similar in many ways although the Impreza feels like it has better traction on poor surfaces. Apart from that though the A45 is simply progress in technology and quality and is so much more than a performance car. The Impreza is a toy (I own other cars) and is a one trick pony (which I love) but the A45 is a amazing all rounder you can use for everything.
Do you have any plans to use it at the track?
J4CKO said:
EricE said:
Really impressed with the power train of these cars. I remember reading that the engine for the A45 originally started life as a prototype for a turbo i-4 Formula 1 engine which was scrapped after the rules called for a V6. No idea if this is true but it could explain the amazing amount of specific output this thing delivers without blowing up. It's like it's a generation ahead of the competition.
Not that its running another 10 psi of boost than say a Golf R ?bmthnick1981 said:
Hi Eddie
I hear your car go past my office at the top of Richmond Hill most days at around 4.45-5.00pm, it makes my head turn and look out of the window where I see a little green car making its way to the Wessex Way. I think the colour lokos great and you've obviously done a good job choosing the best mods judging by the performance figures. Enjoy!
Thanks mate, glad you like it. I assume you hear me bark it up the hill in a bid to get her warm before the dual carriageway. lolI hear your car go past my office at the top of Richmond Hill most days at around 4.45-5.00pm, it makes my head turn and look out of the window where I see a little green car making its way to the Wessex Way. I think the colour lokos great and you've obviously done a good job choosing the best mods judging by the performance figures. Enjoy!
I'm back on chemo tomorrow so went out and did a last run to clear my head:
em177 said:
ecain63 said:
I'm back on chemo tomorrow so went out and did a last run to clear my head:
Best of luck.snoopy25 said:
Hopefully it all goes well for you fella 
Thanks all. I'm a week into the chemo now and it's pretty grim as expected. That said, the cold symptoms that made driving uncomfortable during my winter session in 2013/14 are non existent this time round so that's something i suppose.
I'll update when the next mods arrive: Lightweight wheels and rotors that should save me many kilos!
TheAllSeeingPie said:
JockySteer said:
I'd be interested to see what it pulls to 155 though if you've done it? I've done a couple of runway blasts and got between 28-29 seconds both times. I think we could be close!
I'd guess around 19-22 seconds since his 0-124 is 13ish seconds, shown on his vbox pics. I've had runs of around 20secs and I'm running around 700bhp in a E55 and his 0-100 time is similar as well as his 1/4 mile.I'm following these mods quite closely as I'm thinking of getting a CLA45 shooting brake and want it to be properly rapid.
Another factor is that by the time you get to 130mph+ the turbo is pretty hot and power will be starting to ebb away. Had this been the 6.2V8 NA engine you wouldn't have these effects. Stage 3 tuning when it comes will see improved cooling for the turbo to help in these areas. Other Stage 3 A45's with additional cooling are already seeing much lower temps in the turbo. For cold weather runs the A45s with additional cooling are seeing really sharp spikes in turbo performance.
Eddie
TheAllSeeingPie said:
ecain63 said:
Having looked at the vbox graphs the A45 is running circa 26s to 155mph. The time taken from 130 to 155 is pretty long owing to the small capacity of the engine and gearing biassed toward sprints to 120 or so. Give the car another 500cc or 1000cc and you'd see a good increase in high end grunt.
Another factor is that by the time you get to 130mph+ the turbo is pretty hot and power will be starting to ebb away. Had this been the 6.2V8 NA engine you wouldn't have these effects. Stage 3 tuning when it comes will see improved cooling for the turbo to help in these areas. Other Stage 3 A45's with additional cooling are already seeing much lower temps in the turbo. For cold weather runs the A45s with additional cooling are seeing really sharp spikes in turbo performance.
Eddie
That really is quite a surprise. Is the turbo air to air or air to water for the charge cooling? Maybe you could run a larger coolant reservoir? I'm guessing the turbo itself is oil cooled which makes keeping it cool a pain?Another factor is that by the time you get to 130mph+ the turbo is pretty hot and power will be starting to ebb away. Had this been the 6.2V8 NA engine you wouldn't have these effects. Stage 3 tuning when it comes will see improved cooling for the turbo to help in these areas. Other Stage 3 A45's with additional cooling are already seeing much lower temps in the turbo. For cold weather runs the A45s with additional cooling are seeing really sharp spikes in turbo performance.
Eddie
Eddie
CorvetteConvert said:
What about a set of 18 or even 17 inch wheels?
My track Cayman went from 19s to 17s and i saved quite a bit of weight, weight being taken from the best possible place to lose it, too and the ride was overnight miles better.
17's won't fit the stock brakes let alone the upgrades and doubt the 18's will accept the upgrades. New rotors and pads save 25kg total My track Cayman went from 19s to 17s and i saved quite a bit of weight, weight being taken from the best possible place to lose it, too and the ride was overnight miles better.
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