Porsche 944 project car - £free!

Porsche 944 project car - £free!

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MrMoonyMan

2,584 posts

213 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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MadRob6 said:
It's surprising how well these old abandoned white Porsches can scrub up. Although not as filthy as yours mine had black spots all over it and had absolutely no shine whatsoever but I've managed to get it looking like this.



I wanted to get the paint protected a bit since it's going to be living outside for quite a while and didn't want the paint to deteriorate any more than it had done but it came up much better than I expected.

How long do you reckon until you'll have it up and running?
Comedy number plate! hehe

bertelli_1

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2,244 posts

212 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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I swapped the takeoff tonight, fitting the one from the original engine which had the cam tensioner problem. When I took out the oil pressure valve I found, you guessed it, another problem! A tiny piece of swarf had become stuck in it, holding the valve open. This would have caused low (maybe no) oil pressure & could well be the reason the engine was stripped - its not the first time I've seen the exact same thing.

And here is a pic of the swarf next to a 13mm socket for comparison. It doesn't take a lot to ruin an engine.....

mercGLowner

1,668 posts

186 months

Sunday 31st October 2010
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Great thread, look forward to future updates!

MiniMadMike

780 posts

200 months

Sunday 31st October 2010
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olly22n said:
MrMoonyMan said:
MadRob6 said:
It's surprising how well these old abandoned white Porsches can scrub up. Although not as filthy as yours mine had black spots all over it and had absolutely no shine whatsoever but I've managed to get it looking like this.



I wanted to get the paint protected a bit since it's going to be living outside for quite a while and didn't want the paint to deteriorate any more than it had done but it came up much better than I expected.

How long do you reckon until you'll have it up and running?
Comedy number plate! hehe
took a while but

rofl
Great spot! hehe

MadRob6

3,594 posts

222 months

Sunday 31st October 2010
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With it being that easy to kill all oil pressure I wonder if that's what caused the big end from my S (the one with the comedy plate) to eject itself through the sump?

Where is the oil pressure valve located? I might whip it off next time I'm there and have a look.

bertelli_1

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2,244 posts

212 months

Sunday 31st October 2010
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MadRob6 said:
With it being that easy to kill all oil pressure I wonder if that's what caused the big end from my S (the one with the comedy plate) to eject itself through the sump?

Where is the oil pressure valve located? I might whip it off next time I'm there and have a look.
Its on the oil filter housing, next to the oil pressure switch. You will see a 24mm bolt, remove this & the pressure valve is inside. If the 'S' has the early style valve it will have a plunger, spring & ball bearing (which will try and eject itself across the workshop when you undo the bolt - beware!). The early type don't fail in the same manner, usually the plunger wears & sticks in the housing (there will be marks indicating this).

MadRob6

3,594 posts

222 months

Sunday 31st October 2010
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According to Clarks Garage mine should have a one piece which is also the part with corrosion protection being an 88 car. Next time I'm bored or waiting for paint to dry I'll have a look.

bertelli_1

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2,244 posts

212 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Time for an update now all the snow is gone - it was (below) freezing in the garage! The cylinder head is finally assembled, here are some pics of the pitting on the valves & seats before grinding -


And lovely smooth (and out of focus) finish afterwards -


The amount of time it takes to refurbish a head cannot be underestimated,I reckon I spent more time cleaning than actually assembling. Fortunately I don't charge myself labour. Once the valves & seats were done I could temporarily assemble the head in order to measure the valve spring lengths, then determine where each shim should be fitted (the shims had all been mixed up when it was stripped). Then it was all taken apart again, cleaned again before final assembly. The finished head -

Thats another big step forwards, next up is actually getting the engine in the bloody car.

MadRob6

3,594 posts

222 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Good to see some more progress. The head's looking really good, is there much more to do before the engine can go into the car?

Currently got the engine out my mine at the moment to change a few things like the oil cooler seals, sump gasket, clutch and belts.

gsd2000

11,515 posts

185 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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bertelli_1 said:
Not exactly free, I did 5 days work for it but still a bargain. It is a 1991 S2 and has been standing outside for a couple of years, the catch being the engine is dismantled & sitting in the boot.

An engine rebuild on one of these can be megabucks I looked around for a replacement and found this fire damaged example.

I have now removed the engine, stripped the car & started stripping the engine. I found a big problem with the cylinder head - a large crack, into the waterway. This must have shown some severe headgasket type symptoms as the oil and water would have been mixing on a huge scale!

Fortunately the head from the other car looks useable. The cylinder bores and big end bearings of the donor engine look in good shape. The next step is to clean the motor and fit new gaskets everywhere (some have been damaged by the fire) before rebuilding it & fitting it to the white car. BTW, the S2 has a 3 litre 16v 4 cylinder normally aspirated engine - the largest 4 pot engine of recent times.
I recognise that atlas near the scrap pile smile

Look forward to the updates

bertelli_1

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2,244 posts

212 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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MadRob6 said:
Good to see some more progress. The head's looking really good, is there much more to do before the engine can go into the car?

Currently got the engine out my mine at the moment to change a few things like the oil cooler seals, sump gasket, clutch and belts.
Not much more to do really - just cleaning, cleaning & a bit more cleaning! Did you sort your oil blockage?

bertelli_1

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2,244 posts

212 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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gsd2000 said:
bertelli_1 said:
I recognise that atlas near the scrap pile smile

Look forward to the updates
They did offer it to me as part of the deal, fortunately, as I am sane, I declined.

JC2012

517 posts

218 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Looking good will definately favourite this thread for a little peak when work gets boring!

Heres a little bit of inspiration from Detailing World this chap did an incredible job on his MK1 Golf with minimal prior knowledge...

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.p...


MadRob6

3,594 posts

222 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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bertelli_1 said:
Not much more to do really - just cleaning, cleaning & a bit more cleaning! Did you sort your oil blockage?
Yeah the blockage is sorted now. Had to remove the sump to get the small pipe off then jam a metal rod down it until the blockage finally let go, which it kindly did all over my foot.

bertelli_1

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2,244 posts

212 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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That Golf is impressive but I suspect he has more free time than me....

The engine still isn't in but its ready, maybe even tomorrow???? Here are some more pics anyway, including before & after shots showing the inner wing - on a scale of 1-10 this car was DIRTY.









interloper

2,747 posts

257 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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Nice work, is it as rust free as it appears? Reading threads like this makes me miss my old 2.5 Lux. frown

bertelli_1

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2,244 posts

212 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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interloper said:
Nice work, is it as rust free as it appears? Reading threads like this makes me miss my old 2.5 Lux. frown
Its not rust free but its still very good, there is some bubbling on the driver side sill but its not too bad. I'll get around to that once I know it all works.

CapR225

48 posts

178 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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This is a great project mate. These are very underated cars by all acounts???

Looking to step into Porsche ownership myself with my next car, and this wouldn't be a bad start. Enjoy the project mate!

bertelli_1

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2,244 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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They are very good value for money, still a rapid car today even though they are 20 years old.

Its a day later & the motor is in. Hurrah! A few install pics, showing the jack adaptor I made -









Stiglet80

4,764 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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Love the 944s, great project. thumbup