I also like to live dangerously: 2006 Porsche Turbo S

I also like to live dangerously: 2006 Porsche Turbo S

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TEKNOPUG

19,025 posts

206 months

Tuesday 6th February
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LincolnLovin said:
Tommie38 said:
Sorry to hear of the bad luck.

Did you actually get a quote to fix?
To drop the engine and do the change is about £7500 and it likely would be more due to things breaking, gaskets etc.
I think it's a case of "we don't want the job" quote hehe

Even allowing for £1k on parts (?) it's still 50+ hours labour @ £100 an hour.

Or one qualified mechanic, in a fully equipped workshop, working on the car exclusively from Monday morning, through to Friday evening. And then coming back after the weekend to spend all the following Monday on it. And then Tuesday morning to finish off.

LincolnLovin

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2,805 posts

219 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Yeah theres some padding in that quote as there will be no doubt further issues uncovered the more they dig in, so its intended to be representative of what is likely to happen.

By the book its a 30 hour job, assuming everything is perfect..which we know it won't be.

TEKNOPUG

19,025 posts

206 months

Tuesday 6th February
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LincolnLovin said:
Yeah theres some padding in that quote as there will be no doubt further issues uncovered the more they dig in, so its intended to be representative of what is likely to happen.

By the book its a 30 hour job, assuming everything is perfect..which we know it won't be.
There are always other jobs hehe

For instance, I am just in the process of changing the air filters on mine. Someone previously (OPC mechanic) has snapped off a plastic pipe from the offside airbox (£250 for a new one) and then just super-glued it back on. Which has of course failed. So no I have to remove it all and epoxy it back together...

Om

1,817 posts

79 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Sorry to hear about this. I guess there is always a bit of Russian roulette involved with an older Porsche and things (especially engine or transmission related) can get expensive quickly...

LincolnLovin

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2,805 posts

219 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Yup, I was expecting a bill at some point but the timing chain really wasn’t on my radar tbh.

Court_S

13,117 posts

178 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Bummer to hear that you’ve reached the end of the road with it. The loss is a bitter pill to swallow but as you said in your videos, you knew it was a big risk.

LincolnLovin

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2,805 posts

219 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Thanks for watching! I just didn’t think it would happen this quickly hehe

Edited by LincolnLovin on Tuesday 6th February 20:23

Gustavo7

124 posts

123 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Sorry to hear, so unlucky!


ST565NP

567 posts

83 months

Tuesday 6th February
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LincolnLovin said:
Yup, I was expecting a bill at some point but the timing chain really wasn’t on my radar tbh.
You probably have seen these 2 videos called 2002-2006 Cayenne S 4.5L V8 955 Timing Chain DIY (Part 1) Teardown : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91qD9xugjk0 and part 2 called 2002-2006 Cayenne S 4.5L V8 955 Timing Chain DIY (Part 2) Rebuid : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OgSaqOOM8

Would you try it, too ?

mercedeslimos

1,661 posts

170 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Is it 100% an engine out job to do the chains? I'd have thought that you'd be able to take the entire front end off like most modern cars to get at it. I wouldn't give up so easy.

LincolnLovin

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2,805 posts

219 months

Tuesday 6th February
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It is possible from the front, it's not much easier than dropping the engine, but it is easier.

I've watched the above videos on repeat for a while now, I am trying to figure out if its something I can do on my own on the driveway.

TEKNOPUG

19,025 posts

206 months

Tuesday 6th February
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What about dismantling and going as far as you can. Get it transported to the garage for them to do their bit and then have it brought back for you to reassemble?

Plenty of opportunities to video progress and will greatly reduce the overall cost.

mercedeslimos

1,661 posts

170 months

Wednesday 7th February
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LincolnLovin said:
It is possible from the front, it's not much easier than dropping the engine, but it is easier.

I've watched the above videos on repeat for a while now, I am trying to figure out if it's something I can do on my own on the driveway.
Do you know anyone who is a mechanic or handy like that? I'd 100% start stripping it down, and see how you feel about it. Buy the parts yourself. Are you in dire need of a car? I often do this sort of thing for cars I'm not using (and aren't blocking in our daily drivers first) and worst case you get someone in to finish the job or help you. Great sense of satisfaction and £££ saved.

LincolnLovin

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2,805 posts

219 months

Wednesday 7th February
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The only person I know who is that handy is my brother, but he has a job/family commitments so I wouldnt want to impose on him. If I do take a crack at this then I need to be prepared to do it solo.

TEKNOPUG

19,025 posts

206 months

Wednesday 7th February
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LincolnLovin said:
The only person I know who is that handy is my brother, but he has a job/family commitments so I wouldnt want to impose on him. If I do take a crack at this then I need to be prepared to do it solo.
Find out how much Copart will give you for the car complete and how much for it in bits. You could probably sell the parts you take off if you change your mind and the rest of the car for more of less what you'd get for it complete.

I'd be surprised if there wasn't a mobile mechanic who could come and do the actual chain replacement once you have the car stripped - save you buying tools you'll only use once.

LincolnLovin

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2,805 posts

219 months

Thursday 8th February
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I might have found an option, theres a specialist who will do the chain with the engine in place, its about £3k which is much more feasible. Still a lot of money mind but better than the £7-9k I was looking at.

Not ready to hope just yet, but feeling more positive.

ChocolateFrog

25,809 posts

174 months

Thursday 8th February
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TEKNOPUG said:
LincolnLovin said:
The Cayenne may be expensive to run but it's a lot of fun off road - treating it to a gearbox service next month as a reward to doing well at Avalanche last weekend.

It's going to take a couple of days because the process involves warming & cooling the gearbox, I am getting the diffs & transfer case oil changed at the same time. Pricey but worth it if I am going to be using the car on a regular basis.
I think that the diffs etc you can do yourself easily enough but yes the transmission oil is supposed to be warmed and then drive engage whilst filling, so you need it on a lift.
I was able to do my Touareg's box, diffs and transfer case with it in the highest suspension setting on the drive.


LincolnLovin

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2,805 posts

219 months

Thursday 8th February
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How did you measure the gearbox oil temp?

ChocolateFrog

25,809 posts

174 months

Thursday 8th February
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LincolnLovin said:
I might have found an option, theres a specialist who will do the chain with the engine in place, its about £3k which is much more feasible. Still a lot of money mind but better than the £7-9k I was looking at.

Not ready to hope just yet, but feeling more positive.
It's either that or have a stab at it yourself.

If you Copart it then it's obvious from the number they give it that it's come from a private individual.

There's only one reason a private individual would Copart a car. Where as insurance companies will get rid of perfectly viable cars for relatively minor reasons.

If it was mine and i didnt want to tackle it myself I'd rather ebay it with an honest description than privately use Copart, ebay has a much bigger audience.

ChocolateFrog

25,809 posts

174 months

Thursday 8th February
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LincolnLovin said:
How did you measure the gearbox oil temp?
Infra red thermometer.

It doesn't have to be accurate down to the degree. Just measured the gearbox housing temp from different places and allowed a couple of degrees for losses to atmosphere.