Impulse buy: Peugeot 205 GTi 16v
Discussion
gretsch-drummer said:
Would you be able to do me and my mate (We're currently in the middle of his 205 Mi16 conversion) a HUUGE favour and sketch out the cooling system hose route? And also where your brake servo vacuum hose connects to?
Cracking car you have there.
Yes of course, I'll try and sort a sketch over the weekend.Cracking car you have there.
For the brake servo I have two vacuum pipes coming from the manifold, into a t piece and then into the servo. You can see them if you look at one of the previous engine bay pics.
CarlosV8 said:
Been fairly quiet on the 205 front recently. Had an enjoyable run out to Goodwood back in November.
Got lots of positive comments which is always nice to hear! November and December became quite busy so the 205 stayed tucked up in the garage. Decided to try and put some miles on her over Christmas though, but that wasn't to be as I discovered a nice big puddle of coolant under the car. 3 months after I'd (finally) finished over-hauling the cooling system...
The leak was quickly tracked down to the oil/coolant heat exchanger bolted to the block. Looks like the metal had fatigued and started weeping coolant - the combination of wiggling pipes whilst I had the rad out plus being used as a daily driver for a week probably finished it off. Didn't fancy paying the £300 from Peugeot, so I went for the £20 2nd hand option from a GTI6 with a £5 seal from Peugeot instead. Once again the front of the car was removed and the offending part removed:
All back together tonight - as you can see it also doubles up as the oil filter housing:
Just need a couple of new hose clips to button it all up and then back on the road this weekend hopefully.
In other news I finally got fed up with my a broken knob (well 3 of them actually):
Got myself a re-production gear knob for my birthday. They're not quite factory finish, but after breaking 3 original versions due to their brittle-ness I thought I'd give one a try. Pretty pleased with it considering it's reasonable price!
And finally, I've treated the car to a little spares package, in the shape of this bad ass little thing:
A 1993 205 Automatic. It's a bit rough round the edges, but most importantly it's got the raised bonnet bulge (needed for clearance on the Auto). This will provide some much needed clearance for my throttle bodies and will replace my slightly bent bonnet (after sitting on the aforementioned TBs for many years). The car will also provide a load of extra spares before being sent off to the scrapyard in the sky. But if anyone else wants something off the car please shout (or even the whole car!!).
Ah we wondered who it belonged to.
Mine was out on the track.
Nice car.
Got lots of positive comments which is always nice to hear! November and December became quite busy so the 205 stayed tucked up in the garage. Decided to try and put some miles on her over Christmas though, but that wasn't to be as I discovered a nice big puddle of coolant under the car. 3 months after I'd (finally) finished over-hauling the cooling system...
The leak was quickly tracked down to the oil/coolant heat exchanger bolted to the block. Looks like the metal had fatigued and started weeping coolant - the combination of wiggling pipes whilst I had the rad out plus being used as a daily driver for a week probably finished it off. Didn't fancy paying the £300 from Peugeot, so I went for the £20 2nd hand option from a GTI6 with a £5 seal from Peugeot instead. Once again the front of the car was removed and the offending part removed:
All back together tonight - as you can see it also doubles up as the oil filter housing:
Just need a couple of new hose clips to button it all up and then back on the road this weekend hopefully.
In other news I finally got fed up with my a broken knob (well 3 of them actually):
Got myself a re-production gear knob for my birthday. They're not quite factory finish, but after breaking 3 original versions due to their brittle-ness I thought I'd give one a try. Pretty pleased with it considering it's reasonable price!
And finally, I've treated the car to a little spares package, in the shape of this bad ass little thing:
A 1993 205 Automatic. It's a bit rough round the edges, but most importantly it's got the raised bonnet bulge (needed for clearance on the Auto). This will provide some much needed clearance for my throttle bodies and will replace my slightly bent bonnet (after sitting on the aforementioned TBs for many years). The car will also provide a load of extra spares before being sent off to the scrapyard in the sky. But if anyone else wants something off the car please shout (or even the whole car!!).
Ah we wondered who it belonged to.
Mine was out on the track.
Nice car.
Time for an update!
The blue 205 has now moved on the scrap yard in the sky, but has nicely topped up my spare stash in the garage. The most important item was the bonnet. As mentioned previously it should give me the clearance I need for the throttle bodies. Hopefully the comparison below shows why:
The underside diagonal support is what fowls the TB filter, so hopefully the Auto bonnet (bottom) will address this. Just need to get it sprayed and fitted.
The final piece of tidying up the outside is the wheels. I've never like the paint on the current wheels and they're also mismatched versions of the same Speedline GTi wheel. So I've acquired a matching set of the lighter Italian Speedlines (same style still) which will be refurb'd and fitted with new tyres. I'm still trying to decide on colour but current thought is standard silver.
Had another slight change to the remote locking too. Previously I had fitted a 405 receiver and key which worked fine. But a friend who is well versed in electronics has set up a little business recoding these old French systems. Turns out the 405 receiver is directional whereas the original from the 205 isn't (ie will recognise the key signal from any direction). So he managed to recode the 205 receiver to the 405 key and I now have a much improved system:
A quick test revealed that the key works from slightly further away and better as you approach the car from the front.
Also decided to fix a broken ciggy lighter with a slightly more modern alternative:
2 USB sockets and a handy voltmeter to boot. But can be nicely hidden away when not in use.
So not much ticked off the To Do list, but the car is running great, with about 400 miles put on the old girl in the last few weeks. And hopefully some more interesting posts to come over the next few months!!
The blue 205 has now moved on the scrap yard in the sky, but has nicely topped up my spare stash in the garage. The most important item was the bonnet. As mentioned previously it should give me the clearance I need for the throttle bodies. Hopefully the comparison below shows why:
The underside diagonal support is what fowls the TB filter, so hopefully the Auto bonnet (bottom) will address this. Just need to get it sprayed and fitted.
The final piece of tidying up the outside is the wheels. I've never like the paint on the current wheels and they're also mismatched versions of the same Speedline GTi wheel. So I've acquired a matching set of the lighter Italian Speedlines (same style still) which will be refurb'd and fitted with new tyres. I'm still trying to decide on colour but current thought is standard silver.
Had another slight change to the remote locking too. Previously I had fitted a 405 receiver and key which worked fine. But a friend who is well versed in electronics has set up a little business recoding these old French systems. Turns out the 405 receiver is directional whereas the original from the 205 isn't (ie will recognise the key signal from any direction). So he managed to recode the 205 receiver to the 405 key and I now have a much improved system:
A quick test revealed that the key works from slightly further away and better as you approach the car from the front.
Also decided to fix a broken ciggy lighter with a slightly more modern alternative:
2 USB sockets and a handy voltmeter to boot. But can be nicely hidden away when not in use.
So not much ticked off the To Do list, but the car is running great, with about 400 miles put on the old girl in the last few weeks. And hopefully some more interesting posts to come over the next few months!!
Edited by CarlosV8 on Tuesday 25th July 20:27
Decided on a colour...
Back to the original silver! Picking them up next weekend, then need to fit these:
Uniroyal Rainsport 3s. Hopefully these will offer me a bit more grip in the wet, which is when the 200bhp in this (old) FWD chassis becomes problematic
Back to the original silver! Picking them up next weekend, then need to fit these:
Uniroyal Rainsport 3s. Hopefully these will offer me a bit more grip in the wet, which is when the 200bhp in this (old) FWD chassis becomes problematic
Edited by CarlosV8 on Tuesday 25th July 20:28
Edited by CarlosV8 on Tuesday 25th July 20:29
New wheels, new tyres and new centre caps:
Really pleased I went with the silver wheels in the end
Unfortunately I couldn't take advantage of the nice evening and go for a drive as once again I have puddle of fluid on the driveway...
With oil and coolant previously deposited it was now time for petrol. Quickly tracked down the issue to the return line from the fuel rail which was leaking under pressure. Lucky I just reversed the car out the garage and turned the engine off, I could have nipped out for drive with fuel peeing out everywhere! Worryingly, when I took the hose off it doesn't appear to be reinforced fuel injection hose:
Time to replace all of that then. Could have been a bit of a disaster!
Really pleased I went with the silver wheels in the end
Unfortunately I couldn't take advantage of the nice evening and go for a drive as once again I have puddle of fluid on the driveway...
With oil and coolant previously deposited it was now time for petrol. Quickly tracked down the issue to the return line from the fuel rail which was leaking under pressure. Lucky I just reversed the car out the garage and turned the engine off, I could have nipped out for drive with fuel peeing out everywhere! Worryingly, when I took the hose off it doesn't appear to be reinforced fuel injection hose:
Time to replace all of that then. Could have been a bit of a disaster!
Edited by CarlosV8 on Tuesday 25th July 20:31
Thanks DoubleTime. Standard silver was definitely the right choice for the wheels!
Hopefully I've now updated all photos on the thread after the Photobucket shambles
Fuel hoses have now all been swapped out:
No more risk of spontaneous combustion! Also fitted all new hose clips and a new fuel filter whilst I was there.
Hopefully I've now updated all photos on the thread after the Photobucket shambles
Fuel hoses have now all been swapped out:
No more risk of spontaneous combustion! Also fitted all new hose clips and a new fuel filter whilst I was there.
Edited by CarlosV8 on Friday 6th April 22:09
Edited by CarlosV8 on Friday 6th April 22:10
CarlosV8 said:
Thanks DoubleTime. Standard silver was definitely the right choice for the wheels!
Hopefully I've now updated all photos on the thread after the Photobucket shambles
Fuel hoses have now all been swapped out:
No more risk of spontaneous combustion! Also fitted all new hose clips and a new fuel filter whilst I was there.
NNNOOOOOOOOOOO!!Hopefully I've now updated all photos on the thread after the Photobucket shambles
Fuel hoses have now all been swapped out:
No more risk of spontaneous combustion! Also fitted all new hose clips and a new fuel filter whilst I was there.
Carl.....
That's the hoses I've had all the problems with
Now fitted with Gates Barricade fuel injection hose....
20170802_191401 by CarlosV8, on Flickr
Cheers for the heads up Kitch!
20170802_191401 by CarlosV8, on Flickr
Cheers for the heads up Kitch!
CarlosV8 said:
Now fitted with Gates Barricade fuel injection hose....
20170802_191401 by CarlosV8, on Flickr
Cheers for the heads up Kitch!
20170802_191401 by CarlosV8, on Flickr
Cheers for the heads up Kitch!
So, there was one fuel hose I didn't replace last year. It looked ok so I originally left it, but in the end decided to change it and be safe.
The reason why I wasn't going to renew it is because it looked a PITA to get to. It runs from the fuel pressure regulator at the front of the engine to the tank return pipe on the bulkhead. At the end of last summer I started the job and it became apparent the brake servo would need to come out. And to get that out the engine needed to be dropped. To be honest, I ran out of time and motivation and it's sat in bits all winter. Shame on me!!
With a bit if free time on my hands this week, I thought I better finally crack on. With the top engine mount removed there was just about enough room to get the brake servo out. I could then finally get to the offending pipe and replace it. This was the difficult end of the pipe:
2018-04-06_10-14-26 by CarlosV8, on Flickr
You can just see the hose clip behind the main feed pipe.
Thought I'd better test the fuel pipe connections before putting it back together:
https://youtu.be/SrreFq_72IE
IT'S ALIVE!!
And no fuel leaks. The engine is now back on it's mounts, and servo bolted back it. Just need to bleed the brakes to finish off.
Unfortunately the MOT has now lapsed, so I'll get a few other jobs done and will book it in shortly. Watch this space!
The reason why I wasn't going to renew it is because it looked a PITA to get to. It runs from the fuel pressure regulator at the front of the engine to the tank return pipe on the bulkhead. At the end of last summer I started the job and it became apparent the brake servo would need to come out. And to get that out the engine needed to be dropped. To be honest, I ran out of time and motivation and it's sat in bits all winter. Shame on me!!
With a bit if free time on my hands this week, I thought I better finally crack on. With the top engine mount removed there was just about enough room to get the brake servo out. I could then finally get to the offending pipe and replace it. This was the difficult end of the pipe:
2018-04-06_10-14-26 by CarlosV8, on Flickr
You can just see the hose clip behind the main feed pipe.
Thought I'd better test the fuel pipe connections before putting it back together:
https://youtu.be/SrreFq_72IE
IT'S ALIVE!!
And no fuel leaks. The engine is now back on it's mounts, and servo bolted back it. Just need to bleed the brakes to finish off.
Unfortunately the MOT has now lapsed, so I'll get a few other jobs done and will book it in shortly. Watch this space!
If you're ever anywhere near the south coast give us a shout and we'll do a comparison
We have a weighbridge at work, so at some point I will find out how heavy it is. I have the boat anchor version of the 16v engine (iron block), so it will certainly be a fair bit more than the original 850kg.
We have a weighbridge at work, so at some point I will find out how heavy it is. I have the boat anchor version of the 16v engine (iron block), so it will certainly be a fair bit more than the original 850kg.
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