Ferrari F430 Spider

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mwstewart

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Tuesday 19th January 2016
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ATM said:
I recently had some wheels refurbed and I was told they were powder coated. You say these have been painted. Is this one and the same or is there a difference?
Sorry, I missed this. For most 'standard' wheels powder coat is used as the undercoat and top coat. The range of colours is in powder is more limited and generally less metallic than can be achieved by wet painting, so for wheels with more specialist finishes/colours e.g. M3 CSL, the final layers are generally wet paint on top of a silver or even black powder coat.

Most modern Ferrari lightweight wheels (16M, GTO, Scuderia, Speciale etc.) are wet painted undercoat and top coat, because there is a weight penalty associated with powder coating. This is the way I went with the 16M wheels.

Edited by mwstewart on Tuesday 19th January 10:02

mwstewart

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Tuesday 19th January 2016
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True Gaucho said:
Any updates? biggrin Have loved following this thread so far.
Jan is/will be a quiet month because I'm on hol for all of Feb and trying to sell/buy/move house before we go wobble

I have managed to locate some new parts and will update the thread before Feb, if I get the chance smile

willfinch36

600 posts

160 months

Tuesday 19th January 2016
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Been following this thread since day one.

After thinking I had missed the manual boat, picked up my Rosso/Tan/ manual Coupe last week!

Just waiting for some decent weather!

mwstewart

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Tuesday 19th January 2016
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willfinch36 said:
Been following this thread since day one.

After thinking I had missed the manual boat, picked up my Rosso/Tan/ manual Coupe last week!

Just waiting for some decent weather!
You did well to find one in this market - enjoy!

gobuddygo

1,387 posts

187 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Any of you F430 fans interested in this?

F430 Spider auction

mwstewart

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Wednesday 20th January 2016
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gobuddygo said:
Any of you F430 fans interested in this?

F430 Spider auction
Wow - 72k. Someone actually used one smile I will keep an eye on that.

leglessAlex

5,502 posts

143 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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mwstewart said:
gobuddygo said:
Any of you F430 fans interested in this?

F430 Spider auction
Wow - 72k. Someone actually used one smile I will keep an eye on that.
So will I, that's more or less the same spec as I'll be looking for eventually. It'll be interesting to see how much of the value is taken out because of the mileage.

AyBee

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204 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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leglessAlex said:
mwstewart said:
gobuddygo said:
Any of you F430 fans interested in this?

F430 Spider auction
Wow - 72k. Someone actually used one smile I will keep an eye on that.
So will I, that's more or less the same spec as I'll be looking for eventually. It'll be interesting to see how much of the value is taken out because of the mileage.
How much do you reckon that'll go for? Opening bid of £45k...

mwstewart

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Thursday 21st January 2016
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Open market I should imagine somewhere in the £65-£70k range, but it just depends on visibility of that auction.

mwstewart

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Sunday 31st January 2016
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360 Power Steering Cap - Alloy Type
Something that always bugged me in the F430 engine bay was the plastic cap on the ZF PAS reservoir; it's a fairly ubiquitous reservoir that is used my a number of manufacturers on number of cars over the years. On the 360, Ferrari went to the trouble of producing a machined alloy cap to match the fuel and oil caps. It can be seen at the rear of the following photo:


The F430 uses the same reservoir and cap but is stuck with the plastic cap, so I went looking for a new 360 cap to retrofit to my F430. I now have a brand new one:


16M/Scuderia Front Undertray
The 16M and Scuderia front bumpers (both slightly different to each other) use a different undertray to the standard F430; the contour along the leading edge is different. As is the case with mostly all 16m/Scuderia parts it is lighter than the F430 version, however in this case there aren't any fancy materials used for its construction - its just thinner.


There were impact cracks in the material on the N/S from a grounding incident, so I laid up some black-died fibreglass reinforcement on the back and treated cracks on the front to some epoxy.

In time I may replace it with a brand new part.

16M/Scuderia Front Air Ducts
Like the undertray, the front air ducts are a different shape, and lighter. These are made from very thin ABS plastic rather than fibreglass used on the standard cars. I'm really pleased with these as they are like new.



Edited by mwstewart on Tuesday 15th March 18:00

mwstewart

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Sunday 31st January 2016
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My search for parts has been far and wide.

OEM Optional Carbon Fuel Flap
I found a brand new genuine accessory cap in Spain. The finish is perfect.


16M/Scuderia Mk2 Suspension
The early Scuderia used steel suspension springs but the 'Mk2' moved to titanium (rear I think) and revised dampers. I found a very, very nice set of used springs and dampers in Germany.


The Mk2 springs can be identified by their metallic grey colour, and of course: their weight. The rear dampers are machined down at the bottom end to reduce unsprung weight. The Mk1 front dampers were also machined down at the bottom end, but for the Mk2 it was a return to the more standard F430 damper body, however the whole assemble is surprisingly light.


16M/Scuderia Mk2 Suspension ECU
My plan is to add the 'bumpy road' button from the Scuderia so I wanted the suspension control unit to help achieve that, but also because it is matched to the revised spring & damper rates.


16M/Scuderia Mk2 Front Hubs & Uprights
I mentioned in a previous update that I was looking for a set of 16M/Scuderia front hubs to use on a 398mm front CCM conversion. As is usually the case with this type of projects there's no telling where and when the parts turned up. Firstly a right hand side front hub turned up in Germany:



A short time later a very nice complete pair including uprights, hubs, and all acceleration sensors turned up in the UK.


I've since learned that in addition to the additional spacing on the caliper mounting bosses, the uprights also provide additional offset for the front hubs thus increasing the front track.


The spare right hand front hub is now for sale - if anyone needs it please let me know.

16M/Scuderia Exhaust Tips
I sourced an unusually nice pair of standard 16M/Scuderia in the USA; these are quite often corroded and discoloured due to heat. I don't like the polished & outwardly rolled tips on my Challenge exhaust so planned to cut them off and use the 16M/Scuderia version instead.



16M/Scuderia Exhaust Tips - Optional Titanium Version
As it happened one of my favourite finishing touch parts came up for sale: the optional titanium exhaust tips for the 16M/Scuderia. I was lucky to find a brand new set in the UK.


The titanium versions are approx. 15mm longer than the standard 16M/Scuderia version and have a nice bead rolled on the end. They are of course quite a bit lighter than the surprisingly heavy standard version; I will weigh everything in due course


Nice detailing on the tips.


The standard 16M/Scuderia tips are now for sale - if anyone wants them please let me know.

I have some really nice parts en-route from Italy which I am quite excited to receive, but I’m now headed away travelling until the end of Feb, so more to follow then smile

mwstewart

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Saturday 27th February 2016
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A change of car! I picked up a new one this morning.






2008 F1, 25k miles, 1 owner, and full Ferrari history with one performed every year from new. The clutch was replaced 1k miles ago and prior to sale the ball joints have been replaced with Hill versions. It has both original keys, and a large history file with the original bill of sale. The CCMs are barely worn.

Options:
  • Carbon Driving Zone;
  • Carbon F1 paddles;
  • Carbon rear segment (Challenge grille);
  • Carbon steering wheel airbag surround;
  • Carbon steering wheel with rosso 12 o'clock strip;
  • Electric seats
  • Heated Seats;
  • Giallo Callipers;
  • iPod interface;
  • Scuderia wing shields;
  • Nero leather roll over hoops;
  • Nero leather trim with contrast rosso stitching;
  • Radio / Navi / Bluetooth System;
  • TPMS.
The car was supplied by Autologix. David is great to deal with; there’s no sales rubbish, just a really down to earth approach from an enthusiast. I have been impressed with the attention to detail as the prep is certainly Ferrari showroom standard.
http://www.autologix.co.uk/ferrari-f430-spider-f1-...

Values of manual F430's are going through the roof at the moment and mine made 57.27% in the year and five months I had it, so as a result I've got into a newer car that is a much more suitable base for my Scuderia project due to its updated electronics, and a bonus is I'm protected from any significant depreciation - which I foresee over the next few years; I think we're in a bit of a bubble at the moment. As I've said before - regardless of values the car is there to enjoy.

I'll write more on the change when I get time including my impressions of F1 vs manual, and the updates present on this MY2008.5 model.

Edited by mwstewart on Tuesday 15th March 12:36


Edited by mwstewart on Saturday 28th September 16:11

thebraketester

14,313 posts

140 months

Saturday 27th February 2016
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Great move. :-)

neilbauer

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185 months

Saturday 27th February 2016
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Glad you got the right colour this time wink

The Nur

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187 months

Saturday 27th February 2016
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You've got rid of the other one? The one that has had all the choice work done to it? eek

sealtt

3,091 posts

160 months

Saturday 27th February 2016
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Wow that's a bit of a surprise, but seems a pretty good move

LanceRS

2,175 posts

139 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Didn't see that coming!

mwstewart

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190 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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The Scud parts I had amassed are going on the new car smile

W00DY

15,519 posts

228 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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I did prefer the colours and gearbox of the last one, but I'm sure it made a lot of sense to sell whilst the demand for manual Ferraris is so high. `Those brakes are lovely though,

Will be interested to hear your thoughts on how ownership compares.

mwstewart

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Monday 29th February 2016
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The Scuderia parts I have amassed will be carried over to the new car, and more have been trickling in from the continent. At the moment I'm a bit like a kid at Christmas!


I've already fitted some carbon door handles which I'll cover in a later post, and the second upgrade is a pair of 16M/Scuderia seats. These are brand new and I've gone for nero leather to match my car but giallo (yellow) stitching, which does not.


The stitching of my interior is rosso (red), however I wanted a yellow Cavallino. The rub is the carbon race seats are available only with a uniform Cavallino and seam stitch colour, so I've gone with yellow knowing that I could dye it (but, obviously, not the other way around). Using this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9HLels2aEU technique, and set about dying the yellow seam stitching red!

Here are a couple of progress shots showing how effective it is. The OEM stitching in the cabin area is prone to fading so I'm going to employ the same process to freshen it up.



One finished seat. Time to complete was approximately 40 minutes.



Edited by mwstewart on Saturday 28th September 16:10