Project Ring-shed E36 325i

Project Ring-shed E36 325i

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joe_90

4,206 posts

232 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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sniff diesel said:
joe_90 said:
What wheels are they the 16"? what rubber you running on them?
cheers
Got 3 sets of 328i sport BBS 2 peice wheels as they're nice and light and strong, and can be had cheaply if you don't care what they look like. They're all the 7.5" wide 17" diameter rims, with either Yokohama WTCC slicks, Dunlop BTCC wets, or the Kumho road tyres.
Great thanks.. You get the WTCC slicks new or second hand somewhere?
Im just putting together my exact shopping list at the moment.

Where can you get the BBS cheap?

Edited by joe_90 on Tuesday 1st December 09:19

sniff diesel

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13,107 posts

213 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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joe_90 said:
Great thanks.. You get the WTCC slicks new or second hand somewhere?
Im just putting together my exact shopping list at the moment.

Where can you get the BBS cheap?
Got the slicks used from a supplier on Ebay, as were one set of the BBS rims. The others were bought from a friend and another off another forum member.

Didn't get as much done today as I'd have liked. First thing I made a couple of reinforcement plates for the front sub-frame where the engine mounts attach, similar to these:

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/detail.asp?PR...

As I had a mobile welder coming to patch up a few pieces of rust, I got him to weld these on, as well as the rear diff reinforcement plates:

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/detail.asp?PR...

Wasn't able to do much whilst the welder was there, but cleaned up the engine bay ready for spraying white to match the rest of the car. This will make it easier to spot leaks and stuff, as well as looking nicer.



After spending about an hour removing one bush from the diff carrier, we went and borrowed an oxy acetylene kit and burnt the rest out. After doing the first one we noticed that the fuel tank was a little closer than was sensible. Got a set of Polybushes to go in when the axle goes back on the car.





Didn't manage to get the front turrets roll cage bars welded on today as they're a bit more work than I first thought. Going to cut the holes through the bulkhead for them tomorrow ready to be welded on Thursday. I've got to grind off all the under seal tomorrow as well, so I can get the first coat of Epoxy mastic on, so we can get the axle on to be able to move the car backwards off the ramp to get the doors open for the welding. Going to be a long day.

benny.c

3,488 posts

208 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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Are you putting a competition fuel tank in Rich?

sniff diesel

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13,107 posts

213 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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benny.c said:
Are you putting a competition fuel tank in Rich?
Not yet, just had the old one off to do the underseal. Glad I did as there were a few nasty scabs of rust hidden behind the tank.

At Snetterton the other week it was suffering fuel starvation below 1/3rd of a tank around the fast long right hander at Coram. Might look at getting a swirl pot or foam filled/baffled tank at some point in the future.

Got your Alpina lump in yet?

benny.c

3,488 posts

208 months

Tuesday 1st December 2009
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sniff diesel said:
Got your Alpina lump in yet?
Nah, we need a lift like you've got there smile

TBH we've had enough of getting mucky for a bit, so we'll probably pay someone to do it. A cop out I know wink

bull996

1,442 posts

210 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Can I ask a question?

A while back on the other thread you mentioned swapping the coilovers from the 325 to the M3. Did you manage that and if so how?

Cheers


sniff diesel

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13,107 posts

213 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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bull996 said:
Can I ask a question?

A while back on the other thread you mentioned swapping the coilovers from the 325 to the M3. Did you manage that and if so how?

Cheers
By all means,

The rear mounting points are the same for all E36's including M3's. The only difference is the front ARB drop links mount to the front struts on the M3 (like a pre feb 1992 E36) Being as mine was a slightly later 325i it had the ARB's drop links mounted to the wishbone. The M3 already has a few holes in the wishbones, so I'll be using those. Since the upgraded Whiteline ARB is adjustable in stiffness I'm sure I'll find a setting to suit.

bones33

411 posts

196 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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Love your thread a must read when ever I am on

sniff diesel

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13,107 posts

213 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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bones33 said:
Love your thread a must read when ever I am on
Cheers, if people are still interested then I'll keep on posting updates.

Yesterday I painted the underside with white Hammerite after grinding off and treating the patches of rust with K-rust.




Had a friend bring his Waxoil pump to apply the Dinitrol chassis wax in all the cavities (thanks Bryn!)

Then I cut the holes through the bulkhead for the roll cage turret bars, and fettled the bars to suit. These were then welded on today by Steve the mobile welder:



With the decent OMP strutbrace, and convertible lower X-brace this should stiffen up the front end a fair bit. Can't wait to see what difference to the handling and turn in, what with the Z3 steering rack I've got to go on as well.



Also had the bracket welded in for the expansion tank to fit to on (non M3 E36's have an integral expansion tank on the side of the rad) That bracket and the rear diff reinforcement plates would appear to be the only differences between M3 and normal E36 shells, unless anyone know of any other differences?

Cleaned up the rear axle and gave it a quick spray paint in matt black. Probably won't last long but the car doesn't do that many miles and it'll be nicer to work on with everything clean. Got the Powerflex polyurethene bushes in there too, the 4 diff carrier bushes were purple but the rear trailing arm bushes were black for some reason. As part of the kit were a couple of rear ARB bushes, but these won't be needed as I don't run a rear ARB (anyone after an M3 rear ARB and bushes drop me a PM!)




Managed to salvage my old wheel studs and spacers from the old axle. Was a pain getting the studs out as I'd Loctited them in.

Next job was to fit the ARP conrod bolts. These are much stronger than the standard items, so should enable a higher rev limit if I ever get the engine remapped. Fitting was fairly straight forward, with the luxury of working on an engine stand being able to tilt the engine right over. Just removed the sump, oil pick up pipe, and that baffle plate thing to get to the bottom end. Then just replace the bolts one by one, having to torque them up 3 times each to allow for them to stretch.




Last job of the day was to spray up the engine bay with primer, ready for a coat of white in the morning. This will just make the engines bay a nicer place to work on and make it easier to spot leaks or other things amiss and even stray tools!





Tomorrow I've got to put the sump back on with a new gasket, fit the group N oil restrictor valve in the head, then start on putting the car back together. Looking forward to these nicer jobs.

bulletproofbob

87 posts

186 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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oh your flying on in front of me now.... well done mate, its looking spot on!! i was unsur how to tie into turrets myself, i was going to go diagonally into centre of car but your way looks good enough to copy! (hope you don't mind)

sniff diesel

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13,107 posts

213 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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bulletproofbob said:
oh your flying on in front of me now.... well done mate, its looking spot on!! i was unsur how to tie into turrets myself, i was going to go diagonally into centre of car but your way looks good enough to copy! (hope you don't mind)
Not really, at least your car has an engine and wheels still on it!

I wanted to make sure there was still room for the standard brake servo, I know people fit smaller ones from Golfs and stuff but I didn't fancy going down that road. With the turret bars close to the inner wings they can be welded onto them too increasing stiffness even further. There's nearly enough room for the standard fuse box with the turrets where they are, but I'll have to chop down a bit off the side of the fuse box (M3 runs a seperate expansion tank remember so that can't be moved towards the engine). I want to keep it under the bonnet for simplicities sake. I may have another go at rewiring it with the fuses and relays on the dash sometime.

iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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Sniff, is worth fitting evo/GT twin oil pick up while you have the sump off, I've never had issues running the single & know a couple of others who've stuck to the single, but is a known good idea to use the twin, esp if slicking, do need an evo/GT sump too tho.

I've got mine ready to wang on- careful ebaying = not too silly $ wise, inc the restrictor valve new from bmw rather than a mosley jobbie & I need to ARP also, a winter job I feel.

sniff diesel

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13,107 posts

213 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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iguana said:
Sniff, is worth fitting evo/GT twin oil pick up while you have the sump off
Hi Alex. I've been trying to find one but didn't manage to get one for sensible money in time for putting this all back together. Hopefully for next time it needs an oil change I'll have one.

sniff diesel

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13,107 posts

213 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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Yesterday we managed to finish spraying up the engine bay in white:




Also fitted the group N oil restrictor valve whilst the engine was on the stand. This was a very fiddly job, unfortunately my hands were oily so I didn't get any photos of it. I then made up a bit of pipe to blank off where the heater matrix was plumbed into the head and block, and fitted the take off for the additional water temperature gauge.

Then got the flywheel, clutch, and gearbox back on the engine and fitted it to the car:




It's a great feeling to actually have the engine in the car at last, even if we've still got all the plumbing and wiring in to do, along with the rear axle, prop, exhaust, bolt the front end back on etc. But hopefully these are the nicer jobs putting it all together.

teabagger

723 posts

198 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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I am loving the work going on here, sniff.

Sorry if you have been over this before but,
Is the car going to be road legal (or do you have another car for ring trips)?

Where are you doing the work? Is that your own garage? If so, I am very jealous!

sniff diesel

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13,107 posts

213 months

Saturday 5th December 2009
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teabagger said:
I am loving the work going on here, sniff.

Sorry if you have been over this before but,
Is the car going to be road legal (or do you have another car for ring trips)?

Where are you doing the work? Is that your own garage? If so, I am very jealous!
Cheers Kev. I'm intending to keep the car road legal, but I'm not sure how the Polizei would take to it what with all the modifications. I believe you need to show TUV certificates for all modifications if stopped by the Police in Germany. If they went over the car with a fine toothcomb like they did with that Dutch registered Alfa 75 back in August I'm sure they'd find something wrong and give me a huge fine, so I'm just going to use the car for trackdays over here. I'll have to find another cheap M3 for the next Ring trip.

The workshop belongs to a friend of mine and E36 M3 specialist:

http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/CR-M-Tech-BMW-E36-an...

teabagger

723 posts

198 months

Sunday 6th December 2009
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Thats handy!

My M3 will be returning to the ring this year. We are planning on trailering the MNR over at the same time so the bulk of the laps will hope
fully be done in that.


You must be planning on a few trips to the ring if you are going to get the monies worth of a session ticket.

iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Sunday 6th December 2009
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sniff diesel said:
Cheers Kev. I'm intending to keep the car road legal, but I'm not sure how the Polizei would take to it what with all the modifications. I believe you need to show TUV certificates for all modifications if stopped by the Police in Germany. If they went over the car with a fine toothcomb like they did with that Dutch registered Alfa 75 back in August I'm sure they'd find something wrong and give me a huge fine, so I'm just going to use the car for trackdays over here. I'll have to find another cheap M3 for the next Ring trip.

The workshop belongs to a friend of mine and E36 M3 specialist:

http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/CR-M-Tech-BMW-E36-an...
Sniff you are a tad mis informed on that front mate, pure scaremongering tad dificult to get a TUV on a uk car anyway.

They won't let protruding bonnet pins & excessive wings on tho granted, just back myself this morn from a tad of winter lapping, gotta love global warming, dry sunny 'ring laps in dec sweet, ok bad for the polar bears & the folks of the Maldives maybe smile


sniff diesel

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13,107 posts

213 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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iguana said:
sniff diesel said:
I'm intending to keep the car road legal, but I'm not sure how the Polizei would take to it what with all the modifications. I believe you need to show TUV certificates for all modifications if stopped by the Police in Germany. If they went over the car with a fine toothcomb like they did with that Dutch registered Alfa 75 back in August I'm sure they'd find something wrong and give me a huge fine, so I'm just going to use the car for trackdays over here.
Sniff you are a tad mis informed on that front mate, pure scaremongering tad dificult to get a TUV on a uk car anyway.

They won't let protruding bonnet pins & excessive wings on tho granted, just back myself this morn from a tad of winter lapping, gotta love global warming, dry sunny 'ring laps in dec sweet, ok bad for the polar bears & the folks of the Maldives maybe smile
So if I fit some Aero catches on the bonnet and have all the UK paperwork in order then that's OK is it Alex? What do they make of 6 point harnesses? I saw some cars there last summer that had both harnesses and the original seat belts as I presumed the harnesses weren't road legal.

_dobbo_

14,419 posts

249 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Article in PPC magazine this month saying the guys on the ticket barriers are getting very touchy about modified cars. They were doing a lap in the tank engined SD1 so joined the circuit at the second entrance to avoid problems!