Noble M12 heavily modified

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bulldong said:

Stunning workmanship, but I do think it needs something else painted in red on it, otherwise the red panel is a bit random. Absolutely amazing job on the panelling though. Awesome.

kinda agree, but this is a temporary paint job as I was fed up with how unfinished it looked previously

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bulldong said:

andygtt said:

bulldong said:

Stunning workmanship, but I do think it needs something else painted in red on it, otherwise the red panel is a bit random. Absolutely amazing job on the panelling though. Awesome.

kinda agree, but this is a temporary paint job as I was fed up with how unfinished it looked previously

Just to clarify I didn't mean to cause offence if I have, I am truly in awe of your work. Will look forward to the finished article (if a project like this is ever finished) :-)

i took no offence at all, you were echoing my own view... i was going to do the panel black but unpainted in primer the design actually grew on me hence I decide to make a feature of it for the moment and decide what to do later

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currently doing a road trip in france ending in le mans, here are a few pics

In paris car park... slightly tight lol



Outside beach hotel in Monaco



Loire Valley

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cars going well, had a silly issue with the fuel guage lieing and an exhaust bolt come loose but nothing that a spanner check before going away would have caught (didnt get a chance to do one lol), now in le mans having done 2k miles im very happy with how its behaved

BTW the red is temporary, I havnt decided exactly how its going to look... i have some more body panels etc to make and refine before I make the final decision... open to suggestions

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Im intending to make more things and have these in a mixed weave of carbon and red cloth, front splitter, rear diffuser, canards etc etc so this will break it down in the short term.

couple more pics....

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bulldong said:

TobyLaRohne said:

Out of curiousity OP, why not go the whole hog and make carbon pieces for the remaining panels?

Isn't the whole thing carbon now?

no I havn't made the tub yet hence I had it painted to contrast... don't get me wrong I have seriously considered doing it but i'm not sure I am going to as I have a lot of other areas I want to do like floors and seats etc etc... also want to move back to the GTT as this is a distraction lol.

saying that I might make the roof a removable hard top over the winter, but nothing firm yet.

I had stripes on the car in its previous guise and I loved them, might do something like that... but going to stick with it as is and concentrate on other areas first... anti lag and traction control anyone lol

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As title I changed colour.... And guess what, IT'S WRAPPED

Edited by andygtt on Saturday 31st August 14:39

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I was spending too much money painting my car and not liking the colour scheme and have pondered the end colour for literally years without a firm decision, red was a knee jerk decision and it simply didn't sit right with me...
For those that don't know, my car used to be blue and I put white stripes over it.... I've basically tried a variation of this theme to see how I like it and after I have lived with it a few months I will get it painted :-)

The colour of the splitter may change, as it being yellow is an example of my indecision lol

I think I have already decided this is the scheme I'm going to keep.

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few pics from a recent track day at silverstone... was there to get logging data on the engine so was starting on low boost and working up to full boost to get accurate data, car went well with no issue, however it was down slightly on full boost and had a blow from the exhaust... later inspection found that the turbo gasket had failed and so the turbo had come loose.

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The front splitter will NOT be remaining yellow, Im pretty much settled on the colour combo now and will be focusing on my GTT project from now on

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I might not have mentioned on here but I bought a BMW m5 v10 version a few years back... It's been my family hoon for some years now... The engine is epic revs to 8250rpm and sounds to die for ( I removed the silencers on mine :-) )

Anyhow, you may know the GTT currently has a V12 in there, but I've decided to use the v10 instead... And guess what, the M5 gearbox died last week so I am breaking the car mainly as I have a little plan to slap some turbos on it and put it ina project I have been working on :-)

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Cyrilsneer58 said:

Unbelievable, nice work Andy!

cheers... been impressed with your work as well... its quite refreshing someone else coming along that wants to do their own thing and put the work in themselves.

ironically the next update here will be the carbon diffuser that I have been working on for around 6mths that you have made an almost exact same design in matter of days lol...

Its pure carbon with V weave, I have the sides to make that go under the exhaust exit similar to yours as this is just the middle section... not sure if I will have additional veins, I intend to extend the ones below fully under the engine bay so that it gathers the air... in truth the diffuser is probably too aggressive to have true effect so its mainly designed for looks

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So little update.

I decided to make the tub in Carbon... so car was totally stripped over Xmas and I made moulds of the tub... I then buggered off overseas with work for a little over a month so work promptly stopped and has only just restarted so progress is slow.

Im going to do some more work on it over the weekend, but things have started to get serious as while it is stripped I have found areas that really need work, e.g. heater box / air con, some minor chassis modifications (which to some will seem major as involves lots of cutting and welding lol) along with making all the alloy panels in carbon.... Im hoping once this is complete I can start on the GTT without feeling I left the noble half finished

Im targeting a weight loss of over 50kgs which will get it to the magic 700bhp per tonne....

I Have however had the engine refreshed to make sure all is well (I am in unknown territory power wise and want to be cautious) and upgraded some components so I feel confident letting the engine make a little more power as we held it back quite a bit when it was mapped (its running a little over 1.3bar and I have run it at close to 1.7bar in an older piston spec).... car controls the power very well

Anyhow some pics... booked on a track day early May so got quite a bit to do

Edited by andygtt on Thursday 20th February 12:18

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The standard brakes are AP 4 pots all round and I must admit I always found the standard brakes more than up to the job even on track... however last year my front discs were finally past their sell by date so I upgraded them to larger 355mm Alcon floating discs and the brakes are awesome on track, definatelly more than up to the job even with double the standard power!

You can see the brakes in this pic at silverstone late last year

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so little update... I finished the tub and had a couple of coats of lacquer applied so I can start to put the car back together, needs more sanding and lacquer at a later date to be perfect but will do for now as I have a deadline.... while it was apart I binned all the stock air con and heater assemble as it was a terrible design and no wonder it was pretty inadequate... the new setup is slightly complicated and took a lot of working out and making... in fact it been a nightmare and loads of work so I hope it works lol
I cut the rear of the chassis off so I could fit a larger diffuser of my own design... in carbon of cause so I have a little welding and fabrication to do back there as well.

Anyhow I have a track day booked on the 12th May and only weekends and evenings to get it all finished and back together.... no pressure!

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The tub is mostly carbon but reinforced with Kevlar around the door, roof I used a new core material that's a lot lighter and yet More rigid, it's MUCH stiffer than the original tub so much so I could stand on the roof if I wanted... It weighs 16kgs, original was a little over 30kgs.... I've probably over engineered it as I did with the doors.

I've saved another 20kgs cleaning up the wire loom, getting rid of brackets etc that we're not used etc etc so doing the tub has saved around 35kgs... My new improved heater/ air con assembly is 5kgs lighter and I have reduced eh battery weight by 10kgs.... So cars quite a bit lighter now.

In truth there is very little of the original car left now :-)

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leglessAlex said:

That's amazing, it looks like a damn near flawless finish which is super impressive! Am I right in saying you're an amateur and this is all just a hobby for you? Or do you actually do this kind of work for a living?

correct, Im an accountant.

thanks for all the positive comments, must admit even I was impressed with the finish of the weave, its not flawless, but its as good as the cheaper super cars that have lacquered carbon (i.e. M600 etc)... only the Zondas and veyrons that I haven't been able to find slight defects in... but they are £1m each so I don't feel that bad as it was all made in my garage with limited resources over evenings and weekends.

No progress on the GTT yet... I have a major building project to start after the Noble is finished as Im building and extension that will include an entire new garage same size as my current one but with a basement the same size below for that batman feeling ... once the extension is complete the GTT will made progress.

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rdodger said:

OOhh a garage cellar!

Will you be fitting one of those car lifts that comes through the floor? Please say you are!

be rude not to

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Ironically the basement was born because of the rather mad planning authorities... my fience has 3 kids that live with us, I have 4, 2 of which used to live with me but have moved out into their own flats recently, the other 2 come stay a lot... I have a 5 bed house and live in an AOB and we are selling her 4 bed house so we can have a large enough house for the new family.

I applied for planning permission to extend the house so I have bedrooms for all the children (something I feel strongly about), the planners didn't like all the new bedrooms in the main house and wanted us to also convert my existing double + garage (thats detached and 8m from the house) and put some of the bedrooms in there and build another garage the same size elsewhere...

Im guessing the planners don't have children and thus appreciate that as parents you really want their bedroom in the same house as yours rather than another building not even joined... but ho hum!

Of cause it would have been madness not to apply for the basement under the new garage so worked out well for me... and means i have a games room when the kids leave home and the annexe is empty.... ;-)

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old one was 30kgs, my carbon one is 16kgs.... could have been lighter but I took the opportunity to beef it up in certain places.

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so I managed to finish the Tub and chuck it all back together in time for a track day last Monday at silverstone.... ironically haven't managed to take a single photo of my own so only have the official trackside ones....

I fitted brand new fuel pumps during the rebuild and unfortunately one failed on route to track so my fuel pressure was unable to cope with any throttle at all before the ecu cut everything so I never managed to properly run it... lots of jobs to do to finish off like proper paint job, interior etc etc but pretty pleased with it as its now full carbon.