1969 Chevy Camaro SS
Discussion
Do you have the original broadcast sheet for the car? The reason I ask is, you said earlier it’s an original big block car and at the time, I believe the only way dealers could order these cars with a big block engine was to go down the COPO route, so if it’s first owner did receive it with a big block, it may be an original COPO car. This and the FF are my favourite readers cars at the minute; what are Camaros like at a tip run
wolfracesonic said:
Do you have the original broadcast sheet for the car? The reason I ask is, you said earlier it’s an original big block car and at the time, I believe the only way dealers could order these cars with a big block engine was to go down the COPO route, so if it’s first owner did receive it with a big block, it may be an original COPO car. This and the FF are my favourite readers cars at the minute; what are Camaros like at a tip run
I don't. Pretty sure it's a clone, probably not actually an original SS either! Would something like this:
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_...
Be sufficient for your EFI needs? It's more of a halfway house between carb and multi-port EFI but may give the characteristics you're looking for.
For AC, it could be worth calling Classic Retrofit as they may have some thoughts:
https://www.classicretrofit.com/collections/electr...
Most of their stuff is aimed at the Porsche market but I think they're working with other classics more broadly and electric AC might be an easier retrofit
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_...
Be sufficient for your EFI needs? It's more of a halfway house between carb and multi-port EFI but may give the characteristics you're looking for.
For AC, it could be worth calling Classic Retrofit as they may have some thoughts:
https://www.classicretrofit.com/collections/electr...
Most of their stuff is aimed at the Porsche market but I think they're working with other classics more broadly and electric AC might be an easier retrofit
EJH said:
Would something like this:
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_...
Be sufficient for your EFI needs? It's more of a halfway house between carb and multi-port EFI but may give the characteristics you're looking for.
This is the way 98% go with it, Fi-Tech is another name. Works very well.https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_...
Be sufficient for your EFI needs? It's more of a halfway house between carb and multi-port EFI but may give the characteristics you're looking for.
Yup, the Holley or Fitech EFi seem to be the methods.
I think Aircon will be Vintage Air, who do kits for classic muscle cars. Well-known route.
I think I am going to go for a more modern auto box for London driving, one that allows holding iof gears. The short shift Muncie isn't a particularly desirable box, and frankly a clutchless car would suit my needs better. As it's not a terribly original car, I don't feel bad about converting it to auto if the box used actually enhances the drive. This means not using the old 3 speed box fitted in period.
I think Aircon will be Vintage Air, who do kits for classic muscle cars. Well-known route.
I think I am going to go for a more modern auto box for London driving, one that allows holding iof gears. The short shift Muncie isn't a particularly desirable box, and frankly a clutchless car would suit my needs better. As it's not a terribly original car, I don't feel bad about converting it to auto if the box used actually enhances the drive. This means not using the old 3 speed box fitted in period.
I have a FAST Ez-EFI on one of my cars, the hardest part was getting a suitable fuel tank with a swirl pot and a return pipe on that one but there are bolt in injection tanks for the Camaro available, I know as I have one to fit to my current Camaro once I get to reassembly.
I bought mine from the States and had it sent over.
I bought mine from the States and had it sent over.
Harry Flashman said:
Folks, a question. I am about to go to the US. I could buy an EFi system for my 427, '69 Camaro and bring it home. Anyone feeling kind enough to tell me exactly what to buy?
Find a speed shop over there preferably with a old guy in it who knows his muscle cars, get them to supply the kit you need and bring it back in your luggage.The Holley stuff is very good and its possible to buy it as one all in one kit. Do a bit of looking about on the Holley website first and pick the one you think is most suitable. then search for stockists in the region of the US you are going.
I managed to bring a whole nitrous kit back with a bottle and a "painless" wiring harness one year when I went to the Daytona 500.
Ignoring that it's LHD and the size of a house, the only thing that makes it a pain at normal speeds is the clutch and heat soak. Other controls are light and it is very comfortable. That lowered suspension with high sidewall tyres is actually very compliant. Visibility is good, although ascertaining the corners of the car will take some practice: I have an Audi SQ7 and this is the same width but with none of the cameras or proximity warning sensors. But that's just practice.
The engine, despite that lovely V8 choppiness from the Crane cam, pulls strongly and doesn't seem to want to stall when pulling away, and idles happily. At higher revs it pulls cleanly and in a linear fashion, and the noise. My god, the noise.
I'm not sure I'd want to drive it at speed in corners. Nor in the wet as it has big torque and 235 section tyres. But that's not how I will drive it.
Aircon, clutch and heat insulation. Maybe EFi. I think that will keep the classic feel, but make it feasible to live with. I even like the close ratio box, as it means that revving it gets you that noise, but you don't have to be travelling at ludicrous speeds.
The engine, despite that lovely V8 choppiness from the Crane cam, pulls strongly and doesn't seem to want to stall when pulling away, and idles happily. At higher revs it pulls cleanly and in a linear fashion, and the noise. My god, the noise.
I'm not sure I'd want to drive it at speed in corners. Nor in the wet as it has big torque and 235 section tyres. But that's not how I will drive it.
Aircon, clutch and heat insulation. Maybe EFi. I think that will keep the classic feel, but make it feasible to live with. I even like the close ratio box, as it means that revving it gets you that noise, but you don't have to be travelling at ludicrous speeds.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Friday 28th July 19:00
Stunning looking machine Harry.
If you do go down the auto gearbox route, the current and previous Camaro use the licence built GM version of the 8 or 6 speed ZF auto found in BMW/Aston/Bentley etc. (Ford also did similar licensed production under their own product codes) There are standalone controllers available and I'm expect someone in the States has a bell housing/adapter ready to go for the big block for one or both.
The GM product codes are 8L90 and 6L80 for the 8 and 6 speed respectively. I suspect it's something you would want to do alongside the EFI to make sure both systems talk to each other.
If you do go down the auto gearbox route, the current and previous Camaro use the licence built GM version of the 8 or 6 speed ZF auto found in BMW/Aston/Bentley etc. (Ford also did similar licensed production under their own product codes) There are standalone controllers available and I'm expect someone in the States has a bell housing/adapter ready to go for the big block for one or both.
The GM product codes are 8L90 and 6L80 for the 8 and 6 speed respectively. I suspect it's something you would want to do alongside the EFI to make sure both systems talk to each other.
Edited by bobthemonkey on Friday 4th August 11:16
Turn7 said:
Cledus Snow said:
I'm using a Holley sniper set up, You can run it returnless with a Holley pump module that drops in the standard tank replacing the original sender.
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