Civic Type R FN2 Track Car

Civic Type R FN2 Track Car

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Kaveney

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1,322 posts

159 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Cambs_Stuart said:
I agree, even though they're a few years old I still think of them as futuristic.
Good cosmetic updates, especially for a track car!
Those seats came up really well .
Yes not really needed ( the mats ) but it is a posh track build smile

The seats will be for road use but i will be running buckets and harnesses for track work .

Court_S

13,181 posts

179 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Kaveney said:
Yeah they do get a bit of a bad press but im not sure why TBH .

I have had a few EP3 and now the FN2 and both are great cars IMHO .
To be honest, it’s probably one of those things that the internet experts have gotten hold of and blown out of all proportion (as these things often are).

Kaveney

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1,322 posts

159 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Court_S said:
To be honest, it’s probably one of those things that the internet experts have gotten hold of and blown out of all proportion (as these things often are).
Yes your are correct that as well as Top gear i think .

Kaveney

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1,322 posts

159 months

Thursday 3rd August 2023
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Next on the list was to look at the wheels .



I did look at getting a new set of aftermarket alloys but as i will be looking to run two sets it made more sense to keep with the stock 18 inch FN2 OEM units .



First was to change the tyres to a nearly new set of MPS4 that i will be using as my wet set / road set .







Then installed on the OEM wheels .











Then it was on to some new OEM center caps as the ones on the car as past it .



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New unit .







Old vs new .







Then installed on the car .







With that done it was on to the wheel nuts that were again showing there age .







There were replaced with some new units .











Then installed .











Last job for the wheels was to fit a TPMS so i can keep an eye on tyre pressures on track .











Then all installed .














I still need to give the wheels a good clean and will have to live with the slight kerbing but its another job done .

Kev_Mk3

2,812 posts

97 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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If your not fussed on the wheels thats good. IF you are put something on the wheels where the valve cap is as they flex and rub on the wheels taking paint off.

drifted

9 posts

212 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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you really wanna be getting rid of a load more weight if possible. All the headlining the rear inner plastics, speakers, carpets and if you go for a light weight pair of fixed buckets you'd get a tonne out of those too.

You can always paint the inside of the car once you've tidied up (removing sound deadening etc) to make it look nice.

Civic's are great track cars.

MDifficult

2,088 posts

187 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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drifted said:
you really wanna be getting rid of a load more weight if possible. All the headlining the rear inner plastics, speakers, carpets and if you go for a light weight pair of fixed buckets you'd get a tonne out of those too.

You can always paint the inside of the car once you've tidied up (removing sound deadening etc) to make it look nice.

Civic's are great track cars.
laugh

You're preaching to the Pope of weight-loss here mate.. his last two track cars needed to be tied down to stop them blowing away. How do I know..? because he measured every gram in and out laugh

No more weight loss OP... just drive one of the f*cking things!

drifted

9 posts

212 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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every bit counts though and you can sell the bits on too.

Maybe i've missed his previous track builds then.

Kaveney

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1,322 posts

159 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Kev_Mk3 said:
If your not fussed on the wheels thats good. IF you are put something on the wheels where the valve cap is as they flex and rub on the wheels taking paint off.
Ok i may look in to this then as the stock wheels are in ok condition .

Kaveney

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1,322 posts

159 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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MDifficult said:
laugh

You're preaching to the Pope of weight-loss here mate.. his last two track cars needed to be tied down to stop them blowing away. How do I know..? because he measured every gram in and out laugh

No more weight loss OP... just drive one of the f*cking things!
Im trying not to get to involved with the weight loss on this one but old habits die hard smile

I am just about to book Bedford for November as this will give me enough time to finish off the car for this years build but also give my a stop point as well as if not i will keep building it and never drive the bloody thing .

Kaveney

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1,322 posts

159 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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drifted said:
every bit counts though and you can sell the bits on too.

Maybe i've missed his previous track builds then.
You are correct and there is a good bit of weight that can be removed from this car but after a couple of track cars that i pulled a lot of weight out of this one will be just the big stuff with the most Kg ie Seats , battery , air con etc .

Kaveney

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1,322 posts

159 months

Friday 11th August 2023
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On to a much more exciting update on the car this time .



The UPS of this car is with out a doubt its engine ( the K20 is a belter of an engine ) and its drivetrain or to be more specific the gearbox shift action .



Type R gearshifts have always come in for welcome praise and the FN2 is no exception with a lovely tight short mechanical shift but as with everything this can always be improved on .



After looking around at what was on offer and having run a Coolerworx and ZPO short shifters on my Fiesta St and Megane 250 Cup i decided to order a Hybrid Racing unit .



Hybrid Racing short shifter .























The shifter’s frame is constructed from TIG welded, powder coated 1000 Series steel and the upper and lower rocker assemblies are a single piece aerospace aluminum with custom sealed ball bearings to reduce friction .



The shift throw adjustment is set up using two threaded cable attachment pins allowing you to dial in the exact throw .



I also ordered a Hybrid Racing Maxim weighted 6061 aluminium billet shift knob .











First up it was on to removing the stock gear shifter and knob so the centre console was removed .







Then the shifter surround .







Then the shifter .







And all removed .







The Stock shifter with OEM shift springs and rubber mounting bush ( the Hybrid Racing shifter removes the need for any rubber bushing ) .











It was then on to installing the Hybrid Racing shifter assembly .











Then installing the shifter shaft .







Then on to installing the shift knob , shift links and setting up the shift throw .



















The last part was to re install all the housing that needed a bit of adjustment to fit and job done .















The unit gives a great solid mechanical feel and much shorter shift throws making the already good gear shifts much better .



I still have a few more upgrades to do to finish off the gear shift improvements that will be coming soon .

Kaveney

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1,322 posts

159 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Next on the list to upgrade the shift action / throw was to look at some uprated shifter cable bushing .



Again i went with Hybrid Racing for this and ordered some of there Competition Shifter Cable Bushes .



















The units are a mix of 6061 aluminium and Delrin so will take out the squish of the old rubber OEM units .



First part was to gain access to the shifter cables so the airbox and a few other bits needed to be removed .







The this gave access to both bush units .











Then all removed .







Old OEM rubber bush .











Old vs new .







Then all installed .











This has firmed up the already solid shift action and gives another layer of feel to the shift action .



I have one more little upgrade to get done on the shifter assembly and then it will be perfect .





Cambs_Stuart

2,928 posts

86 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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That shifter mechanism is fantastic. Shame you can't see more of it in the car!

Kaveney

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1,322 posts

159 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Cambs_Stuart said:
That shifter mechanism is fantastic. Shame you can't see more of it in the car!
It is a lovely bit of kit and give a great short throw and feel .

It is hidden away a bit but you can still see most of it form the drivers seat .

MDifficult

2,088 posts

187 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Hold tight… I’ve actually got something of value to add to this (finally)!

Detent springs. Change the detent springs for stronger ones. Tegiwa do them.

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The Rotrex Kid

30,531 posts

162 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Great work on the HR shifter, I’ve got one in my EP3 and it’s a delight to use it every time I drive the car.

Walshenham

169 posts

170 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Nothing to add to this, except I wish I had kept mine as a track/ fast road toy frown


StuE39

705 posts

119 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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The HR cable bushes are fantastic. I've still got the standard shift mechanism on my FN2. Even just changing those bushes gave a big improvement in feel. I fitted a HR Delrin 130R gear knob but unfortunately with the standard shift throw, the increased height of the gear knob didn't feel great. I fitted a Mugen ball instead and that felt much better throw wise. However, the 130R felt better as its lightness really increased the feel of the gear change.

You're making me want the HR short shifter unit too now.

Kaveney

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1,322 posts

159 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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MDifficult said:
Hold tight… I’ve actually got something of value to add to this (finally)!

Detent springs. Change the detent springs for stronger ones. Tegiwa do them.

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Already ahead of you and have ordered some Hybrid Racing units along with a set of heavy duty gear selector springs to finish this part off .

Do you have the Detent springs on the Atom ?



The Rotrex Kid said:
Great work on the HR shifter, I’ve got one in my EP3 and it’s a delight to use it every time I drive the car.
Had a Coolerworx shifter and a ZPO shifter on other cars and the Hybrid Racing feels the best out of the lot of them .



Walshenham said:
Nothing to add to this, except I wish I had kept mine as a track/ fast road toy frown



That looks like a lovely example .



StuE39 said:
The HR cable bushes are fantastic. I've still got the standard shift mechanism on my FN2. Even just changing those bushes gave a big improvement in feel. I fitted a HR Delrin 130R gear knob but unfortunately with the standard shift throw, the increased height of the gear knob didn't feel great. I fitted a Mugen ball instead and that felt much better throw wise. However, the 130R felt better as its lightness really increased the feel of the gear change.

You're making me want the HR short shifter unit too now.
The HR shifter is the best upgrade but the HR cable bushes add another feel to the shift action and i will finish this off with the detent springs and heavy duty gear selector springs .