Honda civic ej9
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VTECBOY

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Here is my 2000 Honda civic sport

Have wanted one of these since I was about 10

and so when I finally could get insured I bought one smile

Engine Is a 1.4 non VTEC :,( hoping to put a b16a2 in the car next year.
So far the car had coilovers, vti fan blade wheels, megan control arms and a few other wee things when I picked it up two weeks ago and since then I have added a full stainless steel exhaust system, 4-2-1 manifold and de cat! Car has a really nice sound as iv removed all the silencers etc smile hopefully running around 90-100 bhp as its 88bhp standard but the car is 13 years old!
List of things I would like to do

Bigger brakes
B16a2 engine
Strut brace
Ek9 front and rear splitter
Ek9 spoiler
Ek9 badges
Ek9 seats
Steering wheel
Pedals
Ek9 gear knob
Bbs wheels
New dash
Window tint
Cold air filter
Red rocker cover
Race clutch
New square reg
Debadge ek9 grill
Red engine bay pipes
Tow hook
Wind deflectors
Wiper blades













Few videos of the lovley sound and one of it spitting flames smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITWmojjfWwM&sns...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8OdsFEVtGg&sns...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxcWrOWNk50&sns...





Edited by VTECBOY on Monday 20th May 23:55

Riknos

4,701 posts

230 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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They look nice but rather than waste your time and money in trying to source a b16 to drop into it - Just buy a b16 engined car in the first place.

VTECBOY

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Would be more expensive to insure then as I am young

Midshipracer

240 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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I have a feeling you are going to get a little bit of a hard time over some of your choice mods...
Car looks straight enough, I like the colour.

My advice, don't spend any money modding the engine/ dropping a b16 etc. By the time you add up the cost of sourcing an engine and assorted bits, the cost will make it better to score a vti in the first place.

Plus if you do an engine swap you are back at square one as far as insurance anyway.

Also it's not wise to have HID lights in a halogen light housing

Slow

6,973 posts

163 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Midshipracer said:
I have a feeling you are going to get a little bit of a hard time over some of your choice mods...
Car looks straight enough, I like the colour.

My advice, don't spend any money modding the engine/ dropping a b16 etc. By the time you add up the cost of sourcing an engine and assorted bits, the cost will make it better to score a vti in the first place.

Plus if you do an engine swap you are back at square one as far as insurance anyway.

Also it's not wise to have HID lights in a halogen light housing
Civic owners declare engine swaps?

VTECBOY

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Slow said:
Midshipracer said:
I have a feeling you are going to get a little bit of a hard time over some of your choice mods...
Car looks straight enough, I like the colour.

My advice, don't spend any money modding the engine/ dropping a b16 etc. By the time you add up the cost of sourcing an engine and assorted bits, the cost will make it better to score a vti in the first place.

Plus if you do an engine swap you are back at square one as far as insurance anyway.

Also it's not wise to have HID lights in a halogen light housing
Civic owners declare engine swaps?
This ^ also the blue light is just HID sidelights that are bright

Mastodon2

14,273 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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So you aren't planning on declaring it then?

SonicHedgeHog

2,769 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Do all the mods. If they don't work, who cares? It won't be too long before you are:

1. Too old to be arsed with this kind of thing.
2. Of an age where you need to be sensible.
3. Of an age where you want a completely different kind of car.
4. Of an age where, as you can see from the above posts, you can think of an endless number of reasons not to do anything different.

With the exception of 15 months I was a full time student until I was 25. That meant I didn't have the cash to personalise my cars. By the time the cash arrived I wanted a different kind of car. Do it all and don't let anyone put you off.

skene

2,717 posts

198 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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You're going to get dogs abuse for saying you'll b16 it and not declare it. And you deserve it.


As far as 1.4s go though it doesn't sound too bad!

emicen

9,192 posts

244 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Riknos said:
They look nice but rather than waste your time and money in trying to source a b16 to drop into it - Just buy a b16 engined car in the first place.
B16 and required bits is ~£700. Can you get a rot free VTi for £700 more than an EJ?

[Hypothetically] I'd probably sooner B16 a known entity than sell the known entity to buy a VTi.

[Equally hypothetically] Having said that, I'd actually just K20 it and be done with it

Bear Phils

891 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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emicen said:
Riknos said:
They look nice but rather than waste your time and money in trying to source a b16 to drop into it - Just buy a b16 engined car in the first place.
B16 and required bits is ~£700. Can you get a rot free VTi for £700 more than an EJ?

[Hypothetically] I'd probably sooner B16 a known entity than sell the known entity to buy a VTi.

[Equally hypothetically] Having said that, I'd actually just K20 it and be done with it
Depending on the cost of the EJ, you could yes and you wouldn't have the same insurance problems. Also, does your £700 include the brake conversion? Also, K20 swaps look to be a hassle and expense for only a little extra power and less of a kick on the crossover.

VTECBOY

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Bear Phils said:
emicen said:
Riknos said:
They look nice but rather than waste your time and money in trying to source a b16 to drop into it - Just buy a b16 engined car in the first place.
B16 and required bits is ~£700. Can you get a rot free VTi for £700 more than an EJ?

[Hypothetically] I'd probably sooner B16 a known entity than sell the known entity to buy a VTi.

[Equally hypothetically] Having said that, I'd actually just K20 it and be done with it
Depending on the cost of the EJ, you could yes and you wouldn't have the same insurance problems. Also, does your £700 include the brake conversion? Also, K20 swaps look to be a hassle and expense for only a little extra power and less of a kick on the crossover.
I like my ej and I know that it's got good arches and rust free, only 70k on it aswell. Iv heard a b18 with b16 top and bottom is the best way to go?

Baryonyx

18,255 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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VTECBOY said:
Would be more expensive to insure then as I am young
A modded car with a swapped engine will probably be just as much. Reading things like this always gives me lust for a Honda. One of the old ones like this, an an EK4 or whatever.

emicen

9,192 posts

244 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Bear Phils said:
emicen said:
Riknos said:
They look nice but rather than waste your time and money in trying to source a b16 to drop into it - Just buy a b16 engined car in the first place.
B16 and required bits is ~£700. Can you get a rot free VTi for £700 more than an EJ?

[Hypothetically] I'd probably sooner B16 a known entity than sell the known entity to buy a VTi.

[Equally hypothetically] Having said that, I'd actually just K20 it and be done with it
Depending on the cost of the EJ, you could yes and you wouldn't have the same insurance problems. Also, does your £700 include the brake conversion? Also, K20 swaps look to be a hassle and expense for only a little extra power and less of a kick on the crossover.
£700 - engine, box, shafts, gear linkage, mounts, loom, ECU

"little extra power" - 160 vs 200, agreed if 25% constitutes a little. Lets not ignore how many smokey B16s there are kicking about now, finding a good one is not getting easier

"less of a kick" - people honestly give a st about this...?

Considering the state of some of the EJ and EK chassis kicking about, I'd always go for something I knew was good. I recently saw an EK so rusty you could fit your arm up to the elbow through the holes in the sills!

Dave200

5,671 posts

246 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Speak to anyone in their 30s, and they will say that they look back on their early 20s 'modding' phase with regret as to how much of their money it swallowed, and how little they got back.

There's no reason why you would be any different - what looks to most like a waste of money now will become more apparent to you in a few years' time, so enjoy it while you have it.

Bear Phils

891 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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emicen said:
£700 - engine, box, shafts, gear linkage, mounts, loom, ECU

"little extra power" - 160 vs 200, agreed if 25% constitutes a little. Lets not ignore how many smokey B16s there are kicking about now, finding a good one is not getting easier

"less of a kick" - people honestly give a st about this...?

Considering the state of some of the EJ and EK chassis kicking about, I'd always go for something I knew was good. I recently saw an EK so rusty you could fit your arm up to the elbow through the holes in the sills!
So it doesn't include the brakes then.

It's 20% extra and I'm not entirely on the costs but a crashed EP3 would be say, £2k? Different engine mounts I think are another £200. So, let's say another £1000 at least for that 40hp. Although, yes it will be easier to get more again out of a K20. But that's not far off another 2k (Hondata ecu + breather mods).

Some people seem to care. Although it's hardly a distaster.

There's still plenty of good cars about. Obviously I can't be certain but this looks a good car. http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/h...

Baryonyx

18,255 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Is that ground clearance from the exhaust? fking hell...

P I Staker

3,308 posts

182 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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I like a Civic and yours looks a good example OP.

I think a Civic may be my next car. smile

VTECBOY

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Baryonyx said:


Is that ground clearance from the exhaust? fking hell...
Yea this is the way the exhaust was sitting when it got put on, need to see if I can cut the brackets that hold it and move it up a bit!

VTECBOY

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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P I Staker said:
I like a Civic and yours looks a good example OP.

I think a Civic may be my next car. smile
Thanks smile really chuffed with the car, to all of those who are saying it's a waste of money I have wanted to do this for a long time so it means a lot to me to do this.

A k20 would be lots of fun especially with a turbo but that would mean big £££.

B16 with the car stripped should be quick enough until I can afford insurance for a proper fast car smile