2022 Mercedes GLE400d
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That's a beast of a car Lee! As soon as I saw the R22 325x35 tyres I thought he's not going to enjoying paying for a new set 
I was surprised that you let them fit a non Merc windscreen as the car is in warranty you can insist on one especially as the car was 9 days old, plus that pattern part screen may explain the issues with the sensors.
I was surprised that you let them fit a non Merc windscreen as the car is in warranty you can insist on one especially as the car was 9 days old, plus that pattern part screen may explain the issues with the sensors.
Wills2 said:
That's a beast of a car Lee! As soon as I saw the R22 325x35 tyres I thought he's not going to enjoying paying for a new set
I was surprised that you let them fit a non Merc windscreen as the car is in warranty you can insist on one especially as the car was 9 days old, plus that pattern part screen may explain the issues with the sensors.
Thanks bud! I was surprised that you let them fit a non Merc windscreen as the car is in warranty you can insist on one especially as the car was 9 days old, plus that pattern part screen may explain the issues with the sensors.
The tyre prices definitely made my eyes water for sure! 
The windscreen was annoying to be honest. I told the salesman about the crack in it and what was the best thing to do and he said you go through the insurance. So I did that and then the insurance approved fitters were struggling to get hold of a Merc one. So in the end I went with Autoglass and they fitted the none OEM one to it.
I completely agree that the none Merc screen is probably upsetting it, or maybe Autoglass upset the camera when they fitted the screen? I just don't know. I've looked very close at photos of both windscreens and they look identical, however there maybe some little details that make all the difference though.
Both me and my missus were saying yesterday that all this tech is nice, however it is just a lot more things to go wrong though.
Yeah I've had a few run ins with autoglass fitters before over fitting an OEM screen, they get very arsey sometimes when you tell them it's the wrong screen and you want OEM.
I think the sensors near the rear view mirror are Kafas cameras I had them on my 740d xdrive they developed a fault and it cost over 2k for new ones, I'd say they need to replace them.
I think the sensors near the rear view mirror are Kafas cameras I had them on my 740d xdrive they developed a fault and it cost over 2k for new ones, I'd say they need to replace them.
cerb4.5lee said:
Both me and my missus were saying yesterday that all this tech is nice, however it is just a lot more things to go wrong though.
Well this is the case in general for cars. When things like this are 11 or 12 years old they'll be a mare to keep on the road when stuff breaks. Unobtanium Modules, obsolete parts, faults you can't diagnose without some equipment that costs 10k a year to subscribe to (or a different Chinese clone for every brand). In some cases the fix is optional and at your discretion, others it's a major pita as an mot fail due to a warning light or whatever. I've been finding it difficult getting hold of the Pirelli rear tyres. I ordered 2 at £407 each but I got a phone call back to say that they couldn't get hold of them. Plus companies like Camskill/tyre leader don't seem to stock them either.
So I decided on going for Continentals instead because they seem to be a lot easier to get hold of. Plus they are cheaper at £633 for 2. I did see the odd place offering the Pirellis for just over £500 each, but I didn’t fancy paying that amount for one tyre.
Managed to squeeze almost 21k miles out of the rear tyres, but I'm still miffed that the car needs new tyres when it isn't even a year old yet though!
We've been discussing changing/swapping the cars around, because it feels like it isn't the most cost effective car to pile the miles onto. It will probably mean getting rid of the M4 for something more economical, but ideally I don't want to do that, but we will see what happens though.
So I decided on going for Continentals instead because they seem to be a lot easier to get hold of. Plus they are cheaper at £633 for 2. I did see the odd place offering the Pirellis for just over £500 each, but I didn’t fancy paying that amount for one tyre.
Managed to squeeze almost 21k miles out of the rear tyres, but I'm still miffed that the car needs new tyres when it isn't even a year old yet though!
We've been discussing changing/swapping the cars around, because it feels like it isn't the most cost effective car to pile the miles onto. It will probably mean getting rid of the M4 for something more economical, but ideally I don't want to do that, but we will see what happens though.
cerb4.5lee said:
I've been finding it difficult getting hold of the Pirelli rear tyres. I ordered 2 at £407 each but I got a phone call back to say that they couldn't get hold of them. Plus companies like Camskill/tyre leader don't seem to stock them either.
So I decided on going for Continentals instead because they seem to be a lot easier to get hold of. Plus they are cheaper at £633 for 2. I did see the odd place offering the Pirellis for just over £500 each, but I didn’t fancy paying that amount for one tyre.
Managed to squeeze almost 21k miles out of the rear tyres, but I'm still miffed that the car needs new tyres when it isn't even a year old yet though!
We've been discussing changing/swapping the cars around, because it feels like it isn't the most cost effective car to pile the miles onto. It will probably mean getting rid of the M4 for something more economical, but ideally I don't want to do that, but we will see what happens though.
You must love that 370Z if the M4 is for the chop instead of that ?So I decided on going for Continentals instead because they seem to be a lot easier to get hold of. Plus they are cheaper at £633 for 2. I did see the odd place offering the Pirellis for just over £500 each, but I didn’t fancy paying that amount for one tyre.
Managed to squeeze almost 21k miles out of the rear tyres, but I'm still miffed that the car needs new tyres when it isn't even a year old yet though!
We've been discussing changing/swapping the cars around, because it feels like it isn't the most cost effective car to pile the miles onto. It will probably mean getting rid of the M4 for something more economical, but ideally I don't want to do that, but we will see what happens though.
Or is a it value thing ?
My lad is thinking of selling his 350Z, he likes it but it feels a bit tardy after a Golf R and driving the ST, he wants something faster.
J4CKO said:
You must love that 370Z if the M4 is for the chop instead of that ?
Or is a it value thing ?
My lad is thinking of selling his 350Z, he likes it but it feels a bit tardy after a Golf R and driving the ST, he wants something faster.
I do love both the 370Z and M4 a lot for different reasons. With hindsight we probably should've stuck with the previous GLC rather than throwing a lot of money at the GLE to buy that instead. Or is a it value thing ?
My lad is thinking of selling his 350Z, he likes it but it feels a bit tardy after a Golf R and driving the ST, he wants something faster.
The depreciation of the GLE hurts because of the miles its doing(depreciation is bad anyway on new cars to be fair though), plus it feels like a bit too nice of a car to be using as a high mileage workhorse if you know what I mean. I don't really know what the best plan of attack is to be honest.
I don't want to see the M4 go because for me is a fantastic all round performance car, but the plan would possibly be to swap the M4 for something like a 420d and pile the miles on that instead. Lets see what happens.
I can see where your Son is coming from regarding the 350Z, and the turbo stuff do tend to definitely make them feel slower than they probably are.
The new tyres were fitted today, and the chap at the tyre place said to me how wide and chunky they looked when he saw them being delivered. I've had to let a fair bit of air out of them because the tyre fitters always seem to put about a 100psi in them!
The old rear tyres looked fine on the outside edges, but the middle of the tyres were like slicks...so they were definitely ready. The Contis are a softer compound so I'm not expecting them to last quite as many miles as the Pirellis did. I'll swap the fronts to Contis when they are ready so that I'm back to all the same brand again. Although the Contis are Merc approved tyres like the Pirellis are to be fair.
The old rear tyres looked fine on the outside edges, but the middle of the tyres were like slicks...so they were definitely ready. The Contis are a softer compound so I'm not expecting them to last quite as many miles as the Pirellis did. I'll swap the fronts to Contis when they are ready so that I'm back to all the same brand again. Although the Contis are Merc approved tyres like the Pirellis are to be fair.
21k in under a year is very good going, pre covid I was at around 25k per year. I bloody love driving, but don’t miss it. As you say, a 420d is probably a better choice. There’s a couple of G20 330d saloons around for good money, too at the moment.
What’s fuel economy and other costs like on the 400d? I suppose the weight of it doesn’t help. Next door to us have a GLE450 and while it sounds great, it certainly likes a drink. They do maybe 3,000 miles per year though so who cares.
What’s fuel economy and other costs like on the 400d? I suppose the weight of it doesn’t help. Next door to us have a GLE450 and while it sounds great, it certainly likes a drink. They do maybe 3,000 miles per year though so who cares.
JakeT said:
What’s fuel economy and other costs like on the 400d? I suppose the weight of it doesn’t help. Next door to us have a GLE450 and while it sounds great, it certainly likes a drink. They do maybe 3,000 miles per year though so who cares.
It is currently showing an overall average of 37mpg, but it will do a bit more than that if you baby it. The 2300kg weight doesn't help matters though as you say, but compared to what a petrol version would do mpg wise I don't think that I can complain to be fair. Servicing wise I take the monthly plan out at £37, because when I had the GLC it would drop the odd expensive service in, so I just personally find the service plan a little easier to swallow. Servicing is 1 year/15,500 miles whichever comes first.
I bet that GLE450 does sound really lovely!
Interesting what you’ve said about upgrading to the GLE from the GLC…
We are half tempted to get a GLE this year to replace the GLC which is coming to the end of its 4-year PCP but we’d be sinking an awful lot of money into something which is festooned at almost all times with the remnants of whatever our two small children have been eating.
Yours does look like an awfully nice place to spend time though.
We are half tempted to get a GLE this year to replace the GLC which is coming to the end of its 4-year PCP but we’d be sinking an awful lot of money into something which is festooned at almost all times with the remnants of whatever our two small children have been eating.
Yours does look like an awfully nice place to spend time though.
cerb4.5lee said:
It is currently showing an overall average of 37mpg, but it will do a bit more than that if you baby it. The 2300kg weight doesn't help matters though as you say, but compared to what a petrol version would do mpg wise I don't think that I can complain to be fair.
Servicing wise I take the monthly plan out at £37, because when I had the GLC it would drop the odd expensive service in, so I just personally find the service plan a little easier to swallow. Servicing is 1 year/15,500 miles whichever comes first.
I bet that GLE450 does sound really lovely!
Makes sense. 37 isn’t unreasonable with the performance the new 400d models provide too. Servicing is reasonable too, considering the amount of service it will need, also. Servicing wise I take the monthly plan out at £37, because when I had the GLC it would drop the odd expensive service in, so I just personally find the service plan a little easier to swallow. Servicing is 1 year/15,500 miles whichever comes first.
I bet that GLE450 does sound really lovely!
Just had one of these for 2 days
- fecking massive
- nice engine but diesel (prefer the petrol inline 6 in my car). Maybe a given.
- pleasingly rapid
- surprisingly good for fast/flowing/undulating A roads
- obviously feels heavy when braking and turning (it’s 700kg more than my heaviest car!)
- very very comfy and good stereo
- has odd longitudinal pitching motion on less good surfaces/, feels weird .
-it was so high it was quite hard to get in/out
- when one wheel goes over a pothole or imperfection the road, like a small ridge, at higher speeds under acceleration, it feels like the whole car does a kind of sideways shimmy. I think it may have been stability control playing with the 4wd system? Anyway it was odd, never felt anything similar in another car.
- standing start 0-60 (it was a hire car…) is 50 % accelerating and 50 % gear changes. There are about a million between 5 and 60 mph, seemingly.
Anyway, overall quite impressed, first Mercedes I’ve driven and for long journeys was very pleasant.
- fecking massive
- nice engine but diesel (prefer the petrol inline 6 in my car). Maybe a given.
- pleasingly rapid
- surprisingly good for fast/flowing/undulating A roads
- obviously feels heavy when braking and turning (it’s 700kg more than my heaviest car!)
- very very comfy and good stereo
- has odd longitudinal pitching motion on less good surfaces/, feels weird .
-it was so high it was quite hard to get in/out
- when one wheel goes over a pothole or imperfection the road, like a small ridge, at higher speeds under acceleration, it feels like the whole car does a kind of sideways shimmy. I think it may have been stability control playing with the 4wd system? Anyway it was odd, never felt anything similar in another car.
- standing start 0-60 (it was a hire car…) is 50 % accelerating and 50 % gear changes. There are about a million between 5 and 60 mph, seemingly.
Anyway, overall quite impressed, first Mercedes I’ve driven and for long journeys was very pleasant.
Edited by GiantCardboardPlato on Thursday 26th January 18:46
GiantCardboardPlato said:
Just had one of these for 2 days
- has odd longitudinal pitching motion on less good surfaces/, feels weird .
- when one whee goes over a pothole or imperfection the road, like a small ridge, at higher speeds under acceleration, it feels like the whole car does a kind of sideways shimmy. I think it may have been stability control playing with the 4wd system? Anyway it was odd, never felt anything similar in another car.
These two things that you mention here baffle me with it as well, and I've never felt that in any other car either. It can feel quite off putting I reckon. I've read that the full size Range Rovers do something similar too. - has odd longitudinal pitching motion on less good surfaces/, feels weird .
- when one whee goes over a pothole or imperfection the road, like a small ridge, at higher speeds under acceleration, it feels like the whole car does a kind of sideways shimmy. I think it may have been stability control playing with the 4wd system? Anyway it was odd, never felt anything similar in another car.
That sideways shimmy you mention was quite scary when the rear tyres were low on tread for sure, but it is much better now the rear tyres are new again though.
The car is on 22k miles now and I'm keeping an eye on the front tyres because they don't feel quite as great as they were now they are getting low on tread.
The car is going in in a week or so for the drivers side tie rod end to be replaced(it was on a 2 month back order apparently) under warranty because they found some play in it the last time it was in.
It is also having the windscreen camera looked at(hopefully replaced) because that is still playing up and pinging the "camera view restricted" warning message(it has been in to be cleaned/recalibrated twice already). So hopefully that gets sorted.
The car is going in in a week or so for the drivers side tie rod end to be replaced(it was on a 2 month back order apparently) under warranty because they found some play in it the last time it was in.
It is also having the windscreen camera looked at(hopefully replaced) because that is still playing up and pinging the "camera view restricted" warning message(it has been in to be cleaned/recalibrated twice already). So hopefully that gets sorted.
GiantCardboardPlato said:
- standing start 0-60 (it was a hire car…) is 50 % accelerating and 50 % gear changes. There are about a million between 5 and 60 mph, seemingly.
Did you try it in sport mode? Apparently in sport mode it adds more boost into the second turbo, whereas in comfort mode it doesn't do that in comparison I believe. I'm used to a million gears now...because the previous GLC that we had for 4.5 years had the same gearbox!
cerb4.5lee said:
GiantCardboardPlato said:
- standing start 0-60 (it was a hire car…) is 50 % accelerating and 50 % gear changes. There are about a million between 5 and 60 mph, seemingly.
Did you try it in sport mode? Apparently in sport mode it adds more boost into the second turbo, whereas in comfort mode it doesn't do that in comparison I believe. I'm used to a million gears now...because the previous GLC that we had for 4.5 years had the same gearbox!
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