964 Speedster
A posers' plaything, or a serious sports car? asks Alex Sharp
Porsche Speedsters are a tad rare, so before diving into the pros and cons of the model, a bit of background info is in order.
356
The Speedster bodyshape was first created on the 356 model primarily as a basic and thus cheap Porsche for the Californian market. With 4000 cars produced it was a strong seller, particularly stateside, with 80% of sales to the good old USA.
3.2 Carrera
Porsche obviously didn't want to rush to produce the Speedster body for the 911 and it was over thirty years until the Speedster again made an appearance. In 1989 the 3.2 Carrera received the Speedster treatment, with 2000 cars produced in both standard and turbo width bodywork. Almost half this number went to the USA and a mere 139 examples were RHD.
964
The last outing to-date for the Speedster was in 1993, with the 964 model. The 964 Speedster is the rarest of them all, with only 936 cars produced, all based on the Carrera 2 floorplan and available in only standard, i.e. narrow, non turbo width bodywork. Again the USA was the prime buyer with 427 cars heading to the States. The RHD versions were really rare this time, with only 14 cars having the steering wheel on the 'proper' side
Who am I?
The 964 Speedster is sort of a cross between a Cabriolet & an RS. It has softer suspension than the RS but has almost none of the comforts of a normal Carrera 2 or Cabrio. The manually folding pram-like hood is a bit basic, (Porsche actually call it 'an emergency soft top for inclement weather.') but it fits quite snugly and is far better than the camping tent arrangement on an Elise.
Yellow Fever
I visited Paul Stephens Specialist Cars to check out a Speedster they had for sale recently. It was a bright example in extreme yellow. A YELLOW! that cannot be ignored and on a sunny day Stevie Wonder would ensure he was wearing his trademark sunglasses when lurking about near this. The car however was in particularly fine condition, with only a few stone chips on the front bumper and a couple of chips on the offside rear wheel proving it wasn't a brand spanking new car.
Step inside
The interior is shared with a 964 RS, and thus is as bare as Geri Haliwell's fridge. Yellow is very much in evidence, but for those who like more sober interiors, all the trim parts can cheaply and easily be replaced with black Carrera or RS items. There are however two exceptions to the stripped out interior. Firstly unlike an RS you do get electric windows, and secondly the first owner ticked the box marked 'air conditioning' when ordering this car. Its usefulness on the Speedster with the UK's climate is however debatable.
Hood up & cruisin'
The Speedster is a bit lighter than a standard Carrera 2 Cabrio and on the road it feels slightly quicker than its more luxurious brother. It certainly handles better than its boulevard cruiser image may suggest and the 33,000 mile 250bhp engine felt in good form.
Due to foul weather, cruising with the hood down was unfortunately not an option. However I'm happy to report that with the hood up, the cabin is a relatively relaxed place to be. The roof may be basic, but wind noise levels are not as far below Cabriolet levels as you might imagine. Only well into licence losing speeds does it become really intrusive.
The strange effects of LSD
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The standard fit limited slip differential is another part shared with the RS and could catch out the unwary. Basically until you are used to its effects, it feels like the car wants to understeer on fast tight bends. I'm not a great fan of LSD's on 911's and feel it really is a bit brutal on what is primarily a summer cruising wagon. However for the serious fast road driver and those who enjoy track days it is certainly an attraction.
Shaking
Under heavy braking there was quite a kickback from the steering wheel, suggesting warped front brake discs. However this is relatively inexpensive to fix was fixed prior to the car being sold.
A future classic?
Porsche have never produced a 993 Speedster and it seems unlikely that a version will ever appear on the 996, as arguably the Boxster fills that position. The 964 is currently the most modern Speedster ever produced and surely will achieve classic status in the future. Given its rarity, the price at £24,000 didn't seem excessive.
Verdict
Pros - The less rare Carrera 2 RS is now appreciating rather than depreciating and seems to be achieving modern classic status. As possibly the last 911 based Speedster I can't help but feel this car is going to do the same.
Cons - LHD may put you off, but RHD 964 Speedsters are very rare and priced accordingly. The lack of rear seats maybe a pain for those who want to bring a couple of mates along to enjoy the experience. The yellow wheels look a bit naff, but replace them with RS type silver 'Cup' wheels and the car will look significantly better.
The car was offered for sale by Paul Stephens of Paul Stephens Specialist Cars at www.paul-stephens.com
964 Speedster with the wide body.
I thought it was 7 or 8 cars.
The prove for this is the second
picture in the article, which shows
such a Turbo Look Speedster.
I have seen one for sale in Belgium
3 years ago. This was a LHD car,
finished in Silver with red leather
interior. It even had the 3-piece
alloys of the Turbo S. Beautiful car, but at a price : approx. 55.000 GBP at that moment...
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I thought it was a bit strange including a library shot of a car the article states does not exist.
LOL... that does indeed look like a wide bodied car Mr Brush. I think Alex has some explaining to do. I'm sure Rubystone can set him straight
I'm pretty sure that Porsche and other tuners had the ability to make wide body cars out of narrow body cars - to special order, so maybe this is what happened here. I must admit that wide body 964 speedsters are not generally recognised as a model type.
Oh, and Ted, please sort out the spelling. It's disgraceful you know:
"Under heavy breaking there was quite a kickback from the steering wheel."
Tut tut.
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I thought it was a bit strange including a library shot of a car the article states does not exist.
LOL... that does indeed look like a wide bodied car Mr Brush. I think Alex has some explaining to do. I'm sure Rubystone can set him straight
I don't think it is a genuine Porsche product as the same car features on a couple of other websites. It's actually a little known 1974 RS Carrera Speedster Lightweight Clubsport IIRC.
Ref the 964 widebody debate, we all know the manufacturers will do specials if your surname fits or you rule a certain oil state off the edge of Borneo! ie right hand drive F40s and F50s.
Just to add a little more turmoil to the discussion were you guys aware that one of the tuners in germany turned a 993C4 cab shell into a 993 Turbo Speedster using factory parts. 911 & PW did a report on it a few years ago.
DAZ
Im still waiting to see the 1st '73 RS rep based on a 964 the only problems I can forsee is that I don't think big brakes ie 964RS/Turbo will easily fit under the Fuchs rims. Its my next project if I can raise the wedge....
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Just to add a little more turmoil to the discussion were you guys aware that one of the tuners in germany turned a 993C4 cab shell into a 993 Turbo Speedster using factory parts. 911 & PW did a report on it a few years ago.
Yeah there are a few 993 speedsters floating around the world all built by specialists. Some odd looking Boxsters that have had the complete 356 Speedster or even 550 look and a lunatic German who has shoved the engine from a 996Turbo into Boxster with a Speedster'esk conv... that could suit you perfectly Daz, 996T thrust but lots of head room for you with ya crash helmet on for track days!!
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Im still waiting to see the 1st '73 RS rep based on a 964 the only problems I can forsee is that I don't think big brakes ie 964RS/Turbo will easily fit under the Fuchs rims. Its my next project if I can raise the wedge....
Yeah, I know those old duck arsed things are great cars, but I love my dinner plate brake discs. They've even got little holes in them, which make all the Nova boys cry when they compare them to their red-caliper-paint brake drums.
Never been a fan of fuchs myself, although Scottster used to dream of them on his rusty old Beetle.
But I suppose I shouldn't talk about his 993 in those terms if it's up for sale
I'll have you know that Dolomite was at the cutting edge of racing technology. With my Blue Thunder style coded ignition system and pink Bull-bars - even had the poop scoop for the super charger..... which sadly never came.....
I'll have to scan a piccie of the beast and put it on here - you really will all pi$$ yourself.
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