I've just bought some poverty Pork…

I've just bought some poverty Pork…

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Stevej33

171 posts

195 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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My 1st Boxster (2.7) with lovely ambers, in Zenith blue...


raceboy

13,153 posts

282 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Quick phone pic of the Mrs's 'poverty pork' smile



She really likes it, but then she's not had a service bill yet paperbag
Upgraded to this from an MX5, and I can't wait to have a 'proper' go driving

5678

6,146 posts

229 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Bringing this backup...

Had wife approval to go for some poverty pork (hehe) so trying to do my research. SWMBO has even said I don't need to sell the 182 to pay for it!

The 3.2S would obvioulsy be nice, but on reading this I'm happy that a clean 2.5 or 2.7 would be fine. Does £5-6k sound like it will get me into what I'm after? Black with Black or Red with Black would be my preference.

Is there much to worry about on a 2.7 with 100k on it if it's got the history to prove it's been looked after?
What would you expect to have been done on a car with 80/90/100k on, bushes? dampers? etc...
Are heated seats a common option? I've not seen many cars with them listed.

Cheers!

raceboy

13,153 posts

282 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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I'd say it's do-able, but good cars are rare. wink
We looked at a few £5-6k boxsters and a lot had fallen into 'dodgy' hands, a lot had little or no history, just the 1 key, bad condition, or just 'dodgy' sellers. wink
We found the one below which had a good spec (it has heated seats wink) a fully stamped up, mainly OPC service history, 3 keys, and a folder full of bills, although even at north of 115k the only 'non service' bills are a rear main oil seal and a rear window, and to round it off the seller came across as a nice genuine bloke.
The Mrs's car is due a service/MOT in a couple of months and could do with a set of tyres but we factored that into the price we paid.
Obviously it might bite us in the arse when it goes for a service but it seems solid to me..... paperbag

tr7v8

7,217 posts

230 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Just bought a Boxster today, 3.2S Tip, lots of history, 2 keys etc.



5678

6,146 posts

229 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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tr7v8 said:
Just bought a Boxster today, 3.2S Tip, lots of history, 2 keys etc.


Mind if I ask what you paid? (PM if you prefer!) Keen to know what they are actually going for.

jamesG20V6

873 posts

259 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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I don't want to put anyone off, they are a great driving experience, but the verdict is in on my (mild) IMS bearing failure and the rebuild cost is more than your anticipated purchase price. I may have been unlucky, but then again there are a queue of knackered boxsters at hartech which have suffered the same. It is something to bear in mind. These aren't cheap cars, they are expensive cars which can be very expensive to maintain being sold at low prices as they get older. What I'm saying is don't expect shopping car running costs and you won't get a shock.

snorkel sucker

2,663 posts

205 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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James, I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way, as it is certainly not intended to, but, when you purchased your car, did you do the usual checks regarding history etc and was this bloody bad news you've had down to pure bad luck?

As you say, the cars are expensive, and need to be regularly maintained, but what would be interesting to know is whether, even if one perfoms a thorough check of its history, that its still a case of "it might happen" with regards the engine going pop.

As I say, genuinely interested really - got a viewing lined up for a 2.7 boxster (MY00) with 60k miles and what sounds like a thorough history. But is that enough...who knows...

Hope you manage to get your car sorted.

Globs

13,841 posts

233 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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snorkel sucker said:
James, I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way, as it is certainly not intended to, but, when you purchased your car, did you do the usual checks regarding history etc and was this bloody bad news you've had down to pure bad luck?.
The issues with the M96/M97 series of engines are well documented by Hartech on other threads.
The are unrelated to how well looked after the car is, and only have a marginal (and non-intuitive) relation to mileage.

It is a throw of the dice on all of them, except ones _already_ repaired by Hartech.

5678

6,146 posts

229 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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My morning has been consumed by reading the Hartech buyers information and searching here and other forums about the IMS and other problems.

Am I correct in thinking this affects 00-05 cars only? So if I went for a 99 or earlier 2.5/2.7/3.2 I would be a little "safer". Maintaining it and the costs it brings are acceptable. Potentially having a £4-5k bill on a £6-7k car is a different story...

Globs

13,841 posts

233 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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5678 said:
2.5/2.7/3.2 I would be a little "safer".
Not sure about the 2.7 but they are safer from cylinder wall failure but the IMS can still go.

61GT

581 posts

182 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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jamesG20V6 said:
I don't want to put anyone off, they are a great driving experience, but the verdict is in on my (mild) IMS bearing failure and the rebuild cost is more than your anticipated purchase price. I may have been unlucky, but then again there are a queue of knackered boxsters at hartech which have suffered the same. It is something to bear in mind. These aren't cheap cars, they are expensive cars which can be very expensive to maintain being sold at low prices as they get older. What I'm saying is don't expect shopping car running costs and you won't get a shock.
Been following this thread, sorry to hear it wasn't better news on the repair front.

5678

6,146 posts

229 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Globs said:
5678 said:
2.5/2.7/3.2 I would be a little "safer".
Not sure about the 2.7 but they are safer from cylinder wall failure but the IMS can still go.
Is that pre 2000 only? Or all 2.7s?

Globs

13,841 posts

233 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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5678 said:
Globs said:
5678 said:
2.5/2.7/3.2 I would be a little "safer".
Not sure about the 2.7 but they are safer from cylinder wall failure but the IMS can still go.
Is that pre 2000 only? Or all 2.7s?
Not sure about the 2.7, Hartech says it on a thread here but I can't be arsed looking it up right now.
I know the 2.5 and 3.2 have good cylinder wall thickness.

5678

6,146 posts

229 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Globs said:
Not sure about the 2.7, Hartech says it on a thread here but I can't be arsed looking it up right now.
I know the 2.5 and 3.2 have good cylinder wall thickness.
Sorry, with you now...

I'll have a search for the Hartech threads. I've realised he's about 15 mins from where I live too so may try and pop over there tomorrow.

raceboy

13,153 posts

282 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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jamesG20V6 said:
What I'm saying is don't expect shopping car running costs and you won't get a shock.
This is exactly what I spent quite some time telling the Mrs before she bought hers, and one of the reasons why we looked at cars well below her budget to allow a large slush fund for maintainance, repairs, upgrades, etc. rotate

bull996

1,442 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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How much does it cost to have the IMS replaced as a preventitive measure, rather than waiting for it to pop and cause other damage?

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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raceboy said:
jamesG20V6 said:
What I'm saying is don't expect shopping car running costs and you won't get a shock.
This is exactly what I spent quite some time telling the Mrs before she bought hers, and one of the reasons why we looked at cars well below her budget to allow a large slush fund for maintainance, repairs, upgrades, etc. rotate
Same old story. You are buying a £40k car, expect £40k car running costs. It is also an old £40k car, expect wear and tear and that if anything goes wrong it will not be a cheap fix very often.

I used to budget on £1kpa additional costs over an above the usual tyres/servicing for odds and sods.

5678

6,146 posts

229 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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bull996 said:
How much does it cost to have the IMS replaced as a preventitive measure, rather than waiting for it to pop and cause other damage?
Very keen to know this too.

f1ten

2,162 posts

155 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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boxster in mark 1 form = great buy. its still quick and it sounds good.