Prospective 981 GT4 Owners Discussion Forum.

[NewExigeS]

Zyp said:

NewExigeS said:

To mop up the tears, including mine.

Yours should be tears of joy - your Exige is much better, you've had a lucky escape...

(Possibly)

I have not had the ex430 Exige out since Oct so probably need to have a run to remind myself that things aren't as bad as they seem. Thanks for the tough love.

[hufggfg]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I did mean a real sequential, and you're right, it's not the most relevant thing for road cars, but interesting nonetheless I think.

I guess I just think that's it's all just shades of grey. You can't really make a black/white digital/analogue electronic/manual distinction. I entirely agree that for most driving I do I rather something at the more involved end of the scale, but I doubt I'd want to be without synchromesh. TBH, I think we're probably on the same page, I do think it's a bit odd when people pick PDK(etc etc) for a "fun" car, because it seems like you're trying to just extract ultimate speed on the road, which seems entirely pointless to me. That said, I can entirely understand the decision if the car is a compromise to be used daily, and PDK is certainly not the worst in terms of taking away involvement.

Anyway, back to the GT4 discussion... I hear they're really struggling to sell them and don't have ANY confirmed orders yet...

[TDT]

Photoshop job posted by Sunnyr on another forum...

Dubbed Pumpkin and Frog.... all i can say is Yum and Yum!!





Roll on colour/paint to sample!!

[AdamV12V]

TDT said:

Photoshop job posted by Sunnyr on another forum...

Dubbed Pumpkin and Frog.... all i can say is Yum and Yum!!





Roll on colour/paint to sample!!

They look amazing, but the rennlist guys seem quite convinced on this and other threads that there will be no PTS on GT4...

[spyderman8]

First (that I know of) 981 Cayman race car, being built to run in the GT4 European Series (think all the Caymans that ran in VLN last season were 987s). No doubt Porsche themselves will be keeping a close eye on this:

http://gt4series.com/prosport-performance-to-enter...

Think the biggest surprise is they're using the PDK box!

Edited by spyderman8 on Thursday 19th February 12:03

[TDT]

spyderman8 said:

First (that I know of) 981 Cayman race car, being built to run in the GT4 European Series (think all the Caymans that ran in VLN last season were 987s). No doubt Porsche themselves will be keeping a close eye on this:

http://gt4series.com/prosport-performance-to-enter...

Think the biggest surprise is they're using the PDK box!

Edited by spyderman8 on Thursday 19th February 12:03

Very interesting. I guess its the same treatment - 991S PU into the car. Transferable GT3 components carried across.
I hope they keep it looking like a Cayman

[pete a]

Slight tangent, but have they lifted the new steering wheel in the GT4 straight out of the Macan?

[isaldiri]

pete a said:

Slight tangent, but have they lifted the new steering wheel in the GT4 straight out of the Macan?

It's the new standard wheel I believe taken from... the 918 and will be see in most of the future models.

[NewExigeS]

Number 5 said:

Sorry I've not kept up to date with this topic therefore I'm out of date with what's happening with the build slots of the GT4, how many people on here have confirmed build slots for the GT4?

A Motoring Journo is intersted in taking up the story, contact him direct if you wish. It may help put a spotlight on this and Germany may send some more cars?! Worth a try.


Hi
I believe you’ve been exchanging messages with Steve Fowler. I’m looking into this for you and will talk with Porsche about the issue. As I think Steve mentioned we had a potential GT3 RS buyer get in touch just this week over a similar issue.
Perhaps you could advise other Porsche buyers on your forum to contact us at [e-mail] if they’d like us to look into their case of losing out, too.
Regards,
Joe

[BubblesNW]

So I have now received a letter from. My OPC confirming that my order has been placed on the Porsche pre-production system and informing me that I will be getting a half day at the Porsche Experience Centre driving a GT4.

My question is .... Does that mean I will receive a car or is this just a stalling measure?

[TDT]

isaldiri said:

pete a said:

Slight tangent, but have they lifted the new steering wheel in the GT4 straight out of the Macan?

It's the new standard wheel I believe taken from... the 918 and will be see in most of the future models.

Its the new MY2016 steering wheel style based on the 918, however it has a new reduced diameter - 360mm vs the normal 370iirc

[NewExigeS]

BubblesNW said:

So I have now received a letter from. My OPC confirming that my order has been placed on the Porsche pre-production system and informing me that I will be getting a half day at the Porsche Experience Centre driving a GT4.

My question is .... Does that mean I will receive a car or is this just a stalling measure?

I have a production number, and a comms number, signed all my order forms, invited to Geneva Porsche hospitality, then lost my car and slot. So I would suggest no, you aint got nothing yet, prepare to be stuffed up like i was.

[Carl_Docklands]

spyderman8 said:

First (that I know of) 981 Cayman race car, being built to run in the GT4 European Series (think all the Caymans that ran in VLN last season were 987s). No doubt Porsche themselves will be keeping a close eye on this:

http://gt4series.com/prosport-performance-to-enter...

Think the biggest surprise is they're using the PDK box!

Edited by spyderman8 on Thursday 19th February 12:03

Gawd don't post stuff like that, you will make cmoose choke on his afternoon latte

[isaldiri]

spyderman8 said:

First (that I know of) 981 Cayman race car, being built to run in the GT4 European Series (think all the Caymans that ran in VLN last season were 987s). No doubt Porsche themselves will be keeping a close eye on this:

http://gt4series.com/prosport-performance-to-enter...

Think the biggest surprise is they're using the PDK box!

Edited by spyderman8 on Thursday 19th February 12:03

How is the PDK going to be allowed given that presumably the Cayman is being homologated for the 6 speed manual and if a waiver is granted for that every car that can run a dual clutch gearbox is going to apply for it which kind of defeats the purpose of requiring a manual box in the first place

""ARTICLE 9 : TRANSMISSION
9.1 Transmission system
The gearbox must comprise a maximum of 6 ratios and a reverse gear. The interior of the gearbox is free. The number of teeth and ratios homologated in the Technical Form must be retained. The joints of the gearbox are free. The gear selection grid pattern homologated on the series model must be retained. Sequential gearboxes are forbidden in GT4, unless by a waiver of the SRO GT4 Bureau. For cars fitted with a semi-automatic or automatic gearbox and with 6 ratios or more, and/or a power-driven clutch with electronic or pneumatic control, a waiver of the SRO GT4 Bureau can eventually be granted. By this the Technical Delegate may at any time oblige the competitor to use the reference unit(s) registered with the SRO Motorsports Group by the manufacturer or tuner
"

[Mario149]

I've been very good and haven't mentioned PDK vs manual for 48 hours, do I get a gold star?!

anonymous said:

[redacted]

The physical distinction between synchromesh and PDK is not lost on me, they just fall at different points on the sliding scale of gearbox tech which go from the driver doing everything to the driver doing nothing.

I don't recall having a dig at you, I simply pointed out that for you anything other than a manual gearbox in a sportscar makes it less good to drive because it is less involving. I'm pretty sure that cap fits and that you proudly wear it, if that cheapens my argument so be it. The bit I'm disagreeing with is that as best as I can tell you don't seem to be able to acknowledge that at a certain point a badly executed manual gearbox, while technically making the car more involving to drive, will actually detract from the overall experience rather than enhance it, even for you, which is patently absurd.
You also like to say that "PDK fanciers" don't seem to understand why people like yourself prefer a manual as if we somehow can't fathom the complexity of it. We do, some of us "bi" and are big manual fans surprisingly enough, we just don't blindly assume that manual is always the best option for interactive driving enjoyment.

Back in another 48 hours or so

[Mario149]

Mermaid said:

pete.g said:

I'm just wondering how all of you like to make toast:

1. manually - toasting fork and open fire

2. semi automatic - grill and kitchen timer

or

3. fully automatic - toaster.

Obviously there's much more involvement and feel in using the manual method and it requires more skill. So it must be better.

Nice one

The answer is, it depends.

[BubblesNW]

Mario149 said:

Mermaid said:

pete.g said:

I'm just wondering how all of you like to make toast:

1. manually - toasting fork and open fire

2. semi automatic - grill and kitchen timer

or

3. fully automatic - toaster.

Obviously there's much more involvement and feel in using the manual method and it requires more skill. So it must be better.

Nice one

The answer is, it depends.

Mrs Bubbles makes my toast, does that equate to a chauffeur?

[Inverted]

BubblesNW said:

So I have now received a letter from. My OPC confirming that my order has been placed on the Porsche pre-production system and informing me that I will be getting a half day at the Porsche Experience Centre driving a GT4.

My question is .... Does that mean I will receive a car or is this just a stalling measure?

I received all of the above....then the email to say sorry we got 4 cars and you aren't one of the luck 4.

[NewExigeS]

Inverted said:

BubblesNW said:

So I have now received a letter from. My OPC confirming that my order has been placed on the Porsche pre-production system and informing me that I will be getting a half day at the Porsche Experience Centre driving a GT4.

My question is .... Does that mean I will receive a car or is this just a stalling measure?

I received all of the above....then the email to say sorry we got 4 cars and you aren't one of the luck 4.

So far i have seen dozens of posts from people not getting one, is anyone on here getting one or are they all going to Mars?

[NewExigeS]

Email recieved today from the Chairman of VW group. I am encouraged by the comment about' Porsche AG will continue to work closely with our markets to try and support balancing the ongoing demand'.

Your e-mail from 18 February 2015

Dear Mr. @@@@@@@,

Thank you for your email to Prof. Dr. Martin Winterkorn Chairman of the Board of Management of Volkswagen AG.

As you are aware, there has been significant interest in the Cayman GT4.
Porsche AG works closely with all markets to assess potential demand ahead of the launch of a new model.

Porsche has to take into account global requirements when considering the allocation of production slots. Each market is then responsible for the distribution within their centre network. Ultimately, the Porsche Centre itself is responsible for managing the deposit and sales process with their customers.

Due to the overwhelming popularity of the Porsche Cayman GT4, the confirmed demand has exceeded Porsche's expectations considerably. It is unfortunate that this has no doubt led to disappointment for many of our customers.
Porsche AG will continue to work closely with our markets to try and support balancing the ongoing demand for this product whilst protecting the exclusivity of the Porsche brand.

Once again I would like to thank you for your feedback and apologise for any frustration the popularity of the Cayman GT4 has caused.

Should you wish to obtain updates in relation to the availability of the Cayman GT4, we kindly ask that you contact your Porsche dealer directly.

Kind Regards,



Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG
Porscheplatz 1
70435 Stuttgart
Telefon: [phone] - 23223
Fax: [phone] - 23365