Journalist sued after 917 engine explodes

Journalist sued after 917 engine explodes

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GT3-RS

1,085 posts

221 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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There's a moral in this saga and I see it as "fry it you buy it" simples on the otherhand the doddery old fella should of made sure that the driver had suitable indemnity before letting him destroy I mean drive his expensive car afterall accidents happen....

shoestring7

6,139 posts

248 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Well, the fallout from the case has already started; the days of 'gentleman's agreements' are well and truly behind us.

I'm about to lend a car to journalists from a magazine to test, and their legal people are making me sign a disclaimer: "I accept that my car will be covered by xxxxxxxxx's insurance for accidental damage only and accidental damage resulting from a mechanical failure.............. I accept that there is no cover for mechanical damage or mechanical failure, and that should either occur the resulting repairs will be entirely at my own personal cost, and that neither I nor my family will pursue any claims against xxxxxxxxxx or xxxxx xxxxx.

SS7

agtlaw

6,770 posts

208 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Wake up call.

Wozy68

5,394 posts

172 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Hmmmmm, when my 968CS was used for a feature for GT Porsche magazine, I was informed that the car was fully insured for its value, it didn't enter my head where mechanical was concerned.

I can only assume that if they'd blown it they would have repaired it. But I guess I possibly would have been naive to think that.

heebeegeetee

28,922 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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anonymous said:
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shoestring7 said:
and that neither I nor my family will pursue any claims against xxxxxxxxxx or xxxxx xxxxx.

SS7
Who knows, we'll have to see. I imagine you'd always be able to sue for negligence if you can prove it, but I am wondering if the 'you bend it you mend it' days are at an end, which is not necessarily a good thing.


IanHug

414 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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As I understand it there could still have been an argument that the driver was negligent to continue to drive the car knowing that it had a gearbox fault. So still grey.

C36 Nico

753 posts

139 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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I was always of the impression that the bend/mend saying referred to crashing - I pay. Mechanical - owner pays..

Should perhaps be renamed "you bork, you mend"

Gwagon111

4,422 posts

163 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Weren't a lot of the costs actually down to legal costs from court?

freedman

5,545 posts

209 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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anonymous said:
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Nonsense

JammyD

12 posts

137 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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freedman said:
anonymous said:
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Nonsense
You are right. The last post was nonsense.

Hungrymc

6,719 posts

139 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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The journalists and publications only drive these cars to make profit. its not your mate letting you have a little go in his car. Point is, they borrow these cars for commercial gain and as such need to be insured for the consequences or to reach a very clear understanding with the owner. These people do this for a living and are supposed to be professionals.

Nurburgsingh

5,153 posts

240 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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We used to have a sign up in one of our stores that said

"You break it, you buy it"

Bend it you mend it doesn't appear to cover enough these days...

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

198 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Someone think of the children!

Buster73

5,087 posts

155 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Nurburgsingh said:
We used to have a sign up in one of our stores that said

"You break it, you buy it"

Bend it you mend it doesn't appear to cover enough these days...
I've seen that sort of sign before , just I thought it was a gentle reminder to be careful rather than enforceable by law.

If I accidentally damaged anything in a shop I certainly wouldn't expect to be charged for it , and if asked to pay I would refuse.

N24

1,113 posts

241 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Why lend a car to a journo - personal gain via advertorial? Fine if you're a manufacturer, but otherwise is the risk deemed to be worth the gain...

Al W

591 posts

229 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Buster73 said:
If I accidentally damaged anything in a shop I certainly wouldn't expect to be charged for it , and if asked to pay I would refuse.
So you think the shopkeeper should pay for your clumsiness. Nice

Nurburgsingh

5,153 posts

240 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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I have the solution....


If you own a rare or interesting vehicle... write your own story about it and submit it to the magazine... or is that just too daft?

I'd have thought you'd get a more passionate review of the car from the person that owns it rather than someone who's spent an hour/day or so with it.?

Henry-F

4,791 posts

247 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Al W said:
Buster73 said:
If I accidentally damaged anything in a shop I certainly wouldn't expect to be charged for it , and if asked to pay I would refuse.
So you think the shopkeeper should pay for your clumsiness. Nice
So if you go into a shop pissed out of your head and push a mate so he falls into a display and causes damage you should just be able to walk away without a care in the world ?

If the shop had minimised aisle sizes to the point where it was impossible to walk through the store without knocking something off a shelf then a different story. Hence the court case, was it a pre-existing problem or was it plain driver error.

Henry smile

Henry-F

4,791 posts

247 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Nurburgsingh said:
I have the solution....


If you own a rare or interesting vehicle... write your own story about it and submit it to the magazine... or is that just too daft?

I'd have thought you'd get a more passionate review of the car from the person that owns it rather than someone who's spent an hour/day or so with it.?
Owing an interesting vehicle and being able to write an interesting article are very different, almost mutually incompatible things !

Henry smile

Nurburgsingh

5,153 posts

240 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Henry-F said:
Nurburgsingh said:
I have the solution....


If you own a rare or interesting vehicle... write your own story about it and submit it to the magazine... or is that just too daft?

I'd have thought you'd get a more passionate review of the car from the person that owns it rather than someone who's spent an hour/day or so with it.?
Owing an interesting vehicle and being able to write an interesting article are very different, almost mutually incompatible things !

Henry smile
Question and answer sessions from the passenger seat it is then!!